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Flu vax anyone?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

My doctor has been asking me if I want the flu vax (because according to them, I need it) - I'm just not too sure about it. Are any of you getting it or have gotten it? If so, why? and those of you who are refusing it, why are you declining? I just want to make the best choice for my child most importantly and myself. Any information is appreciated. Thanks!

post #2 of 13

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Edited by nhklh - 10/21/13 at 3:43am
post #3 of 13
I will get the shot because I have asthma, which puts me at a higher risk for complications if I were to get the flu. I'm not sure if I'd get it otherwise.

Reading everything you can about a vax is always a good idea. In addition to reading the package inserts and the more anti-vax natural health sources, I'd suggest you also look at mainstream, pro-vax, trying to freak you out sources. They're going to present the worst-case scenarios in terms of the disease's risk and the best case scenarios in terms of the vax's safety. In that vein (no shot pun intended), here's what the CDC says about the flu vax for pregnant women: http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/pregnant.htm
post #4 of 13

We are a minimally vaxing family.  I do have asthma, and it does worry me a bit - since the two itty bitty colds I've had this pg so far have meant I've needed to radically up my asthma meds for a few days.  However - my experiences with the flu vaccine haven't been good.  Because flu mutates fast, it's very hard for the manufacturers to get it 'right' and so there's a strong possibility that the vaccine will not be fully protective.  And indeed, the times I've had it, I ended up with flu anyway (not immediately, but within that flu season.)

post #5 of 13

I didn't get it last time, and I won't be getting it this time. I based my decision on two factors. The first being that I've never had a flu vaccine, and therefore didn't know if I'd have a reaction to it, and second my first pregnancy was during the big H1N1 scare and I figured if they put out a vaccine that didn't cover the "dangerous" version of the flu and wanted me to double vax, then they may not be competent enough to get it right at all, so why vax against something I may or may not get anyway?- I never got the flu, so I guess it didn't matter, but I also don't go out and about/work with lots of people etc...

post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by cieloazul View Post

I will get the shot because I have asthma, which puts me at a higher risk for complications if I were to get the flu. I'm not sure if I'd get it otherwise.
Reading everything you can about a vax is always a good idea. In addition to reading the package inserts and the more anti-vax natural health sources, I'd suggest you also look at mainstream, pro-vax, trying to freak you out sources. They're going to present the worst-case scenarios in terms of the disease's risk and the best case scenarios in terms of the vax's safety. In that vein (no shot pun intended), here's what the CDC says about the flu vax for pregnant women: http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/pregnant.htm

Ugh. This is such a pet peeve of mine. I do not know how they can get away with saying this!! (And thank you cieloazul for linking this so I didn't have to go find it).
The CDC states on the link above that:

"The flu shot has been given to millions of pregnant women over many years. Flu shots have not been shown to cause harm to pregnant women or their babies. It is very important for pregnant women to get the flu shot."

 

Well, here are the info in the vaccine inserts from each of the flu vaccines:

 

**Fluvirin**

Page 12: 8.1 Pregnancy
Pregnancy Category C: Animal reproduction studies have not 

been conducted with FLUVIRIN®. It is also not known whether 

FLUVIRIN® can cause fetal harm when administered to a

pregnant woman or can affect reproduction capacity. FLUVIRIN® 

should be given to a pregnant woman only if clearly needed.


**Flumist**

insert:http://www.medimmune.com/pdf/products/flumist_pi.pdf

Safety and effectiveness of FluMist have not been established 

in pregnant women, nursing
mothers, geriatric adults, or children less than 2 years of 

age.


**Fluarix**

Insert:http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_fluarix.pdf

Safety and effectiveness have not been established in 

pregnant women or nursing mothers.


**Flulaval**

insert:http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_flulaval.pdf

Safety and effectiveness of FLULAVAL have not been 

established in pregnant women, nursing mothers, or children.


**FluZone**

insert:https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?doc_id=12651&image_type=product_pdf

Safety and effectiveness of Fluzone has not been established
in pregnant women.

 

Purplemama, I think that every mother does need to do her own research and come to the decision that is best for the health of she and her babies. There is NO judgement here on my part.  It just gets my feathers all ruffled up when I see the CDC (who is supposed to be a reliable source of information for the public) say something that is not backed up by the very companies that are putting out the product! shake.gif It feels very unethical to me.

 

On a good note though I was happy to see the CDC had a link to preventative measures you could make during the cold/flu season. http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/habits/index.htm

post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 

Thank you for all of the suggestons. I know that when I was pregnant with my second child in the flu season of 09', I did not get a flu shot (and I didn't get the flu), but my decision wasn't really based on anything major. This time around I just wanted more opinions on the matter. I just remember hating the doctors ask me over and over again if I was going to get one when finally I said no, I think I'll pass. lol.  I don't believe I've ever gotten a flu vax before in my life and the possibility of it actually giving me the flu freaks me out a bit. They also said they wanted me to get the whooping cough vax, but I know nothing about that. Anyone want to also weigh in on the whooping cough vax??

post #8 of 13

This whooping cough topic came up a few months ago on this DDC. Here is the link to that thread:

http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1356740/vaccines-during-pregnancy

post #9 of 13

This was another thread on our DDC where the whooping cough vaccine came up (I knew there was another one because I remembered posting a bunch of links to someone about it)! It seems like this must be a big topic of concern around here. winky.gif

http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1360419/8-12-weekly-chat

post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the link!

post #11 of 13

Have never got it but do worry it's not the right decision of course!  In all likelihood I'd never catch it, but if I did that would not be good.  I was totally knocked out by an eensy weensy cold last week.

 

The way I interpret the disparity between what the CDC says and what the package inserts say is that it is nearly impossible to conduct an FDA drug safety study for pregnancy, no matter the drug (this is true for many medications that pregnant woman regularly have to take for various medical problems).  BUT, as the CDC points out, there is also no sign that anything bad has happened to any of the tens (hundreds?) of thousands of babies whose moms got the flu shot while pregnant with them.  But there will always be a gray area because a big, complete, thorough study will never be performed.

post #12 of 13

I would never even consider this. The flu is not complicated in healthy people, nor does the shot provide immunity. Vaccine injury is no joke and it happens A LOT more frequently than is reported. Why not just wash hands and limit exposure to the gen population? I guess I don't get why everyone is SO afraid of the flu? Being sick sucks, but for the VAST majority of people it is only a minor issue and taking a drug cocktail to try to avoid it seems a huge overkill to me. It makes me cringe to even think of it--but I am one of the 'few' who have been affected by vaccine related injury and it was TERRIBLE.

 

post #13 of 13

well, i will probably be in the minority here but....

yes we will all be getting flu vaccine this year, for a couple of reasons. H1N1 is especially severe in pregnant women, chances are I will no longer be pregnant by the time flu season hit here (unless we have a really early season) so I'm not super worried about it. However, baby will only be a couple of months old during peak flu season... both boys are in public school and once I return to work my exposure is almost daily. Every year we primarily rely on physical measures to prevent flu like handwashing and changing out of work/school clothes immediately once home and of course breastfeeding will offer the baby the best protection. All that being said in our home this year I definately feel that the vaccine holds a smaller risk than the risk of complications of flu in a 3 month old.

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