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post #41 of 96

(((Maia)))

 

 

Looks like I can't keep up...

I try to read everything but, at this moment, it seems like words elude me when I try to reply...

 

Thinking about you all even though I'm not actively interracting with you here or on FB. ;)

post #42 of 96
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Originally Posted by Kaydove View PostI talked to my mom about not being Christian anymore and she said that it'll be her job to teach DD about Jesus. I need to outline some clear guidelines with her, which I hope she'll be respectful of, but I'm fine with my mom teaching her bible stories and about Jesus, just no heaven, hell, sin, or converting.

 

I'll focus on DD growing up with my beliefs but knowing that its her choice to believe what she wants. I'm excited for her to grow up without dogma! 

 

 

Maiasaura - Hoping the realtor calls you back today! I'm so sorry to hear about M's brother. I can't imagine how difficult that is for him. Addiction is so hard to deal with, especially when a stressful life stuff happens. He'll be in my thoughts.

 

Kaydove, just a thought, but I don't think that your mom will be able to draw a line there. It will probably end up being no religion at ALL, from her, rather than bible stories and Jesus, but no heaven, hell, sin, or converting.. Though she may mellow-- but I'm not seeing it. You will have to worry about this stuff as early as 2yo. As soon as your dd is vocal and gets stories read to her.
And srsly, you have to watch for stealth grandparenting-- my own mom tried to get away with this kind of shite! And I would NEVER, ever have pegged my mom for someone who'd do that. Reading bible stories, sheesh. She's Episcopalian, but she only started studying the Bible not very long ago. She's more Sunday and Christmas religious, not all-the-time-soul-consuming religious. I was mortified. Oh, and feeding my ds crap food, thinking she's treating him and I'm depriving. OMG. I kid you not, your dd is just a wee babe right now, but ALL the family/friend ugly is about to come out on you.


I highly, HIGHLY advise you to search for the "bean dip" threads on MDC. Very highly.

 

Oh, realtor emailed me to make sure I can be out for a showing in moments. I said I could. Thanks for thinking of M; that is really sweet.

 

Oh yeah-- your dd will decide her own fate (religion AND other things) in spite of you lol.gif My boy is 11y8m and I have been figuring this out for a couple of years now. Sigh.

 

Valerie-- thanks for the hugs grouphug.gif Back atcha!

post #43 of 96
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Can anyone recommend any pagan books? I've started reading a couple and they're so so. I'm interested in kitchen witchery...Thanks! Hope everyone has a great week!

 

 

Love books by Ellen Dugan - anything, but esp Natural WItchery and Cottage Witchery.  If you're on fb, the Pagan Soccer Mom often recommends nifty sites and reading material.

 

 

 

http://www.ellendugan.com/2.html

post #44 of 96
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Oh, mamas-- my sweetie's brother died, I think yesterday gloomy.gif

 

Hugs and Love for M.  Poor guy.  How is he holding up?  

 

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An altar call is where, after they preach or whatever, they invite anyone who has, during the service, been "called" to be saved, and the person goes up to the altar to be...hmm, whatever, they get blessed by the preacher and have hands on their head sometimes and such, and they get welcomed to the fold of the saved. It's public and I think it's very gauche, but it's done all over the South all the time. Usually it's done at like....oh, tent revivals (yes, they still have those) and church services, but like I said above, every opportunity, right? So even at weddings and funerals. CRASS!

 

lol.gif headscratch.gif Super creative, dunno about that. It was something that just sort of came naturally to me, to do that. We end up having weird combinations of food at one sitting, mostly invoving peanut butter ROTFLMAO.gif

My Grandma was the one who did the research so that she could belong to the Mayflower Society (official name: Society of Mayflower Descendents), which is how I found out about my lineage there. WmBradford had a bunch of kids, but I branch off right from him, from one of his dd's, I think. When I wanted to be a junior member (under age 18), all I had to do was prove my lineage to my Gramma and provide HER research.

 

Altar calls sound really... different.  The closest thing I have experienced like that is when I was in a Catholic wedding.  The entire wedding party was told it was a REQUIREMENT (by the priest) that we had to go up and either get communion if we were Catholic or, if we weren't still come up stop in front of the priest, cross our arms in front of us, bow our heads, and get a special blessing.  I was like "OH HELL NO!"  I just didn't budge when the time came.  Not like it messed up their ceremony or anything.  I thought it was really weird that the priest required that.  I have been a non-Catholic in other wedding parties and never had that happen...

 

I will definitely have to find out about this Society of Mayflower Descendants.  I know that our genealogy takes us back to the American Revolution on both sides.  One side was fighting for the colonies and the other was the hired Hessians!!  only me.  So, I will have to find out if Gma has the path back to the Mayflower.  

 

 

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Love books by Ellen Dugan - anything, but esp Natural WItchery and Cottage Witchery.  

These look awesome!! Thanks for sharing!!

 

I've got to motivate today and get the pumpkin carcass off my porch. We had one pop up in our compost this summer, we put it out on our front porch whole, a squirrel got into it as it started to get soft... and it got everywhere.  Which is fine but now the pumpkin is caved in on itself... and it's time... should probably clear off the porch furniture and stuff, too.  greensad.gif  Now that it's cold out I just want to be inside cooking all day long.  

post #45 of 96
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I love the idea of eating favorite foods of our ancestors.  That is super creative!  AND UHM... maybe we actually *are* somehow connected as twins as my GGma's people came over on the MAYFLOWER, ALSO!!  I'll ask my Grandma and see if we know the name... 

Whenever we hit up the library I get at least one moon book.  :)  

 

 

I'm so jealous of all you mamas who can trace your family back so far...I'm hoping to be able to do that, some day...but we haven't had a lot of genealogists in my family. Between immigration (with a language barrier) and adoption, I haven't found it easy to find a lot of my ancestors.

 

What are your favorite moon books?

 

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Oh, mamas-- my sweetie's brother died, I think yesterday gloomy.gif

 

It was so sudden. M talked to this brother on Friday night on the webcam. Yesterday, the brother went into the hospital because he was having stomach pain and puking up blood-- I think it was puking. And they didn't (or couldn't) figure out what it was, sent him to ICU, didn't (couldn't?) tell anyone why he went to ICU, and then boom, he's dead. He was barely 60 and left a wife and two more-or-less grown kids.

 

M is pretty well devastated, understandably. The good news is he doesn't have money for alcohol-- which is, I guess, a good side effect of being broke. This is the first of his 10 brothers and sisters (including him) to go. He was the...hmm, 4th one in chronological order? M was thinking for some reason that they'd all die in the same order they were born. Um, no...not necessarily. His sister has cancer of some sort, and I'm guessing she'll be next, probably. Poor M greensad.gif

 

candle.gif So sorry. How's he doing now?

 

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Can anyone recommend any pagan books? I've started reading a couple and they're so so. I'm interested in kitchen witchery...Thanks! Hope everyone has a great week!

 

P.S. I'm not the best with quoting because I'm usually posting on my Kindle while nursing ;)

 

What have you read so far? I really like Starhawk...strangely enough, not The Spiral Dance, but The Earth Path, Circle Round, and the Twelve Swans are definitely some of my favorite Pagan Books. I also think Celebrating the Great Mother is an excellent book for any Pagan family. Otherwise, one of my favorite Kitchen Witchery book lists is this one http://nuannaarpoq.wordpress.com/topics-in-contemporary-paganism/this-kitchen-witchs-library/ A lot of it isn't specifically Pagan, but really are things Pagans should know, at least I think. Also, Mary Oliver may not exactly be a Pagan, but I think most Pagans would appreciate her work...and she has a new book out!

 

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Altar calls sound really... different.  The closest thing I have experienced like that is when I was in a Catholic wedding.  The entire wedding party was told it was a REQUIREMENT (by the priest) that we had to go up and either get communion if we were Catholic or, if we weren't still come up stop in front of the priest, cross our arms in front of us, bow our heads, and get a special blessing.  I was like "OH HELL NO!"  I just didn't budge when the time came.  Not like it messed up their ceremony or anything.  I thought it was really weird that the priest required that.  I have been a non-Catholic in other wedding parties and never had that happen...

 

 

This reminds me of going to a wedding where the pastor (Lutheran) spent part of the ceremony denouncing gay marriage, and I just think that's so crass to use someone's wedding like that.

 

Oh, and I've been loving this song lately. Perfect for Samhain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hW0vYIev6MU

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Can I sneak in too?  DH and I are both Asatru.  flowersforyou.gif

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Can I sneak in too?  DH and I are both Asatru.  flowersforyou.gif


Welcome!

 

Just wanted to pop in and announce that I got my BFP this morning. Please send any energy, prayers, magic for a healthy, sticky baby this time.

post #48 of 96
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Originally Posted by vydalea View PostHugs and Love for M.  Poor guy.  How is he holding up? 

 

He's hanging in there. Still sober! joy.gif 53 days now! And while he has blown off meetings for the last two days, he says he thinks he ought to go to one today thumb.gif

 

Thanks for the squirrel warning! We have squirrels now, and I have a big pumpkin on the porch! yikes2.gif

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Originally Posted by revolting View PostI'm so jealous of all you mamas who can trace your family back so far...I'm hoping to be able to do that, some day...but we haven't had a lot of genealogists in my family. Between immigration (with a language barrier) and adoption, I haven't found it easy to find a lot of my ancestors.

 

candle.gif So sorry. How's he doing now?

 

He says thanks for the virtual candle heartbeat.gif He is doing alright, all things considered.

 

Don't be too jealous-- that's my dad's family I posted about. My mom's family is all Hungarian Jewish, and her father was adopted-- and all adoption records were sealed back then. So that 1/4 of my family is a mystery.

 

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Originally Posted by nerissav View PostCan I sneak in too?  DH and I are both Asatru.  flowersforyou.gif

 

Sure! Welcome!

 

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Originally Posted by revolting View PostJust wanted to pop in and announce that I got my BFP this morning. Please send any energy, prayers, magic for a healthy, sticky baby this time.

 

Congrats! I forgot what BFP means, but I know it means something to do with pregnancy dust.gif Stay, baby, stay!

 

Did I tell y'all the showing fell through? bawling.gif I had a really, really rough day yesterday over that. Apparently the woman went and put an offer in on a house, sight unseen (!),while her realtor was out of town! How nutty is that? But now I have to start all over again, dang it. It can't be the price-- I would say it was, if a lot of people have come through and rejected it, but I can count how many showings it's had on one hand, in over 2+ years! Gah!

post #49 of 96
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I'm so jealous of all you mamas who can trace your family back so far...I'm hoping to be able to do that, some day...but we haven't had a lot of genealogists in my family. Between immigration (with a language barrier) and adoption, I haven't found it easy to find a lot of my ancestors.

 

What are your favorite moon books?

 

 

What have you read so far? I really like Starhawk...strangely enough, not The Spiral Dance, but The Earth Path, Circle Round, and the Twelve Swans are definitely some of my favorite Pagan Books. I also think Celebrating the Great Mother is an excellent book for any Pagan family. Otherwise, one of my favorite Kitchen Witchery book lists is this one http://nuannaarpoq.wordpress.com/topics-in-contemporary-paganism/this-kitchen-witchs-library/ A lot of it isn't specifically Pagan, but really are things Pagans should know, at least I think. Also, Mary Oliver may not exactly be a Pagan, but I think most Pagans would appreciate her work...and she has a new book out!

 

 

So, I'm a bad mama and don't keep track of the names of the books we borrow from the library.  I really should... our favorite one is called "Sometimes Moon" by Carole Lexa Schaefer.  It's describes the different phases of the moon & the feast/gathering that her family partakes in at the full moon.  it's really neat.  

 

I didn't like Spiral Dance, either.  I wanted to but it was really dense.  I'll have to check out Earth Path.  I also like Circle Round and love Celebrating the Great Mother for it's ease.  

 

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Can I sneak in too?  DH and I are both Asatru.  flowersforyou.gif

wave.gif Hi nerissav!  Looking forward to what you have to add with your background in Asatru.  

 

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Welcome!

 

Just wanted to pop in and announce that I got my BFP this morning. Please send any energy, prayers, magic for a healthy, sticky baby this time.

Double quoting you, mama... goodvibes.gif sending you my thoughts, energy, love!!  

 

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He's hanging in there. Still sober! joy.gif 53 days now! And while he has blown off meetings for the last two days, he says he thinks he ought to go to one today thumb.gif

 

He says thanks for the virtual candle heartbeat.gif He is doing alright, all things considered.

 

Did I tell y'all the showing fell through? bawling.gif I had a really, really rough day yesterday over that. Apparently the woman went and put an offer in on a house, sight unseen (!),while her realtor was out of town! How nutty is that? But now I have to start all over again, dang it. It can't be the price-- I would say it was, if a lot of people have come through and rejected it, but I can count how many showings it's had on one hand, in over 2+ years! Gah!

M still sober!! ALLLLL RIIIIIIIIIGGGHHHTTT!!!!!! so happy for him and you, mama!!  

 

and... NOoooooooooOOOOooooooooooooOOOOOoOOOOOO!!! for the showing.  That really stinks, Maia!!  greensad.gif  I'm sure it was really hard to have your hopes up like that and then...not even a showing... hug2.gif  

post #50 of 96
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For the month, I had wanted to read to my eldest The Halloween Tree by Ray Bradbury, due to the cross-cultural/historical survey it provides of Samhain and ancestor worship, but unfortunately, after a few chapters my five year old didn't want to continue reading (despite that she enjoyed the movie in the past - which we'll probably watch again this October - which makes me suspect the reading level is a bit too high still and I might try again next year). We read Ghost Wings by Barbara Joosse last year, which we will probably repeat this year.

 

Thank you for the suggestions!!!!

post #51 of 96

Blessings your way revolting hoping for a sticky bean for you!

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He's hanging in there. Still sober! joy.gif 53 days now! And while he has blown off meetings for the last two days, he says he thinks he ought to go to one today thumb.gif

 


Don't be too jealous-- that's my dad's family I posted about. My mom's family is all Hungarian Jewish, and her father was adopted-- and all adoption records were sealed back then. So that 1/4 of my family is a mystery.

 

 

Did I tell y'all the showing fell through? bawling.gif I had a really, really rough day yesterday over that. Apparently the woman went and put an offer in on a house, sight unseen (!),while her realtor was out of town! How nutty is that? But now I have to start all over again, dang it. It can't be the price-- I would say it was, if a lot of people have come through and rejected it, but I can count how many showings it's had on one hand, in over 2+ years! Gah!

 

Yay on the sobriety. Way to go M!

 

My mother is adopted with a closed adoption, which closes off half my family tree. Then my paternal grandmother's parents were Lithuanian immigrants, so I don't have anything that goes further back than them. I do have my father's father's side of the family to keep me busy, but oh am I curious about my mother's first mother, about my ancestors that came from Lithuania, etc...

 

How disappointing. I can't imagine buying a house without visiting! I mean, those pictures always look way nicer than the house actually is.

 

My big kid is sick. When do they learn to throw up in the toilet? I'm trying to keep the two year old entertained cooped up in the apartment all day and some cleaning done, but with all the packing and missing furniture, it feels like a pointless task. Anyone have any favorite healing song or chant they like to sing when their kids are sick?

post #53 of 96
Kaydove: what are you reading? Cunningham is always my first recommendation for newbies. Also, there's Green Witchcraft.http://www.amazon.com/Green-Witchcraft-Magic-Fairy-Series/dp/1567186904 It's good, but not my path.

nissav: DH is a Norse follower, though not Asatru. Good to see some more Odenskinder here!

Revolting: many blessings of the gorilla glue variety

All: I've been in absentia for awhile, for good reason. Three weeks ago my brother, who was awaiting trial, disappeared. His house was broken into, his gold was missing, and the tracking anklet had been cut off. He had been diagnosed with a host of mental issues including severe PTSD. He is still missing and it isn't like him to just take off. We are concerned that he was forcibly taken for money or revenge.

On the other hand, I have published three books and gotten my first official paid ghostwriting job with great reviews. We are getting a 1/4 grassfed cow and a friend of my parents is giving us a freezer for free! We are planning out a busy winter/fall renovation projet schedule and getting ready for the holiday cram. DH is doing well at his job, which has spawned a topic for the podcast: Sacred Slaughter. We are looking at a very financially secure season, which is great, but unusual.

Oh, and regarding the stealth Christian grandma thing, my mom bought DS a boardbook for the Christmas Story. Sometimes DS still picks it for bedtime books. I replace the names, places, etc. with Horus, Isis, Osiris, etc. Cuz I'm ebil!
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Revolting  goodvibes.gif sent your way.  Don't be too jealous of those who can trace our ancestry back pretty far (I've got to about 1200 on part of my dad's side and 1500/1600/1700 with the rest).  It isn't all that interesting!  I think it would at least tickle my fancy a bit more if they had kept journals or you knew what they all did for a living and what their personalities were like.  Endless birth/death/marriage records just become numbers after a while.  Thankfully I've got some Mormons in the family who did most of the research for me.  

 

Wolfcat    I usually just use Asatru as kind of short hand.  People here tend to say they practice the "Old Ways" or the such.  Do you and your husband do rituals/holidays together?  Things have been soo busy and stressful lately that we've both been totally neglecting our spirituality.  I hope that everything turns out ok with your brother.

 

My mother, who is a non-practicing Christian, decided to teach my daughter about Jesus last Christmas.  I wasn't amused in the slightest.  I don't have a problem with her learning about it, but I'd rather it come from a factual background and presented in a non-biased way.

 

Halloween isn't really celebrated here but there are a handful of pumpkin type things, but the Jule (Yule) decorations and wrapping paper are already out at supermarkets and Ikea.  I bought my first julebuk (Yule goat)  of the year already! It is a really old tradition that is rooted in Thor being pulled through the sky by goats!

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Originally Posted by revolting View PostYay on the sobriety. Way to go M!

 

My big kid is sick. When do they learn to throw up in the toilet?

 

M says thank you smile.gif

 

I don't remember. I always kept a small trash can next to the bed so my ds could lean over and throw up in there, if he had to. He's pretty good about that. I think around...hmm, 4 or 5 maybe? Forgot.

 

 

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All: I've been in absentia for awhile, for good reason. Three weeks ago my brother, who was awaiting trial, disappeared. His house was broken into, his gold was missing, and the tracking anklet had been cut off. He had been diagnosed with a host of mental issues including severe PTSD. He is still missing and it isn't like him to just take off. We are concerned that he was forcibly taken for money or revenge.

On the other hand, I have published three books and gotten my first official paid ghostwriting job with great reviews. We are getting a 1/4 grassfed cow and a friend of my parents is giving us a freezer for free! We are planning out a busy winter/fall renovation projet schedule and getting ready for the holiday cram.

 

Oh wow, Wolfcat. How scary for you. I hope he's alright hug2.gif

 

Very nice on the books and cow and freezer! Nice!

 

 

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My mother, who is a non-practicing Christian, decided to teach my daughter about Jesus last Christmas.  I wasn't amused in the slightest.  I don't have a problem with her learning about it, but I'd rather it come from a factual background and presented in a non-biased way.

 

Halloween isn't really celebrated here but there are a handful of pumpkin type things, but the Jule (Yule) decorations and wrapping paper are already out at supermarkets and Ikea.  I bought my first julebuk (Yule goat)  of the year already! It is a really old tradition that is rooted in Thor being pulled through the sky by goats!

 

I would f*cking freak if someone tried to go behind my back and teach ds something other than what I want him to know. My mom did buy him a Bible...hmm, two years ago? A year? And I gave her That Look, but she said he asked her for it. Which he did-- how odd, but if it's his idea. I don't have a problem with it.

 

You're in Denmark? I think most of us here are in the US or Canada. It will be refreshing for me to hear about your traditions over there! What is a julebuk? It's not a real live goat, is it??

post #56 of 96

Hey all, not sure but wanting to contribute but I feel so disconnected from life these days. My father passed last Monday and I have always been very sensitive to ancestors during this time of very and feel like the veil is very thin already. Anyone else feeling more alert to spirit happenings on the other side? Or had an increase in dreams? Seems messages are everywhere.

 

Also gearing up for a more focused celebration/ritual with my little one where we will create an ancestor altar together, which makes me a little sad since last year we were with my dad when we did it; though he wasn't really aware of what me and DD were doing, he just thought it was another one of the "weird" things I do and joked about eating the food I put out.Looks like this year he will get to enjoy the food afterall.

 

I am reading your posts about Jesus teaching, such a hard spot for us as well. When she was much younger her daycare provider told her that God and Jesus love her and watch over her. She kept telling me Jesus loves me so I am ok. I lost it over that and my husband was just like "honey everyone will share their beliefs, just teach her what "we" believe."  I still boil up thinking about a provider teaching about god and jesus.... I todl my DD that Jesus was an incredible spiritual teacher who many people believe in the same way we believe in faeries, Mama Earth, Sistermoon, Brother Sun, Father Sky, our ancestors, dreams, community, sustainable agriculture, star matter and chocolate.

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I would f*cking freak if someone tried to go behind my back and teach ds something other than what I want him to know. My mom did buy him a Bible...hmm, two years ago? A year? And I gave her That Look, but she said he asked her for it. Which he did-- how odd, but if it's his idea. I don't have a problem with it.

 

You're in Denmark? I think most of us here are in the US or Canada. It will be refreshing for me to hear about your traditions over there! What is a julebuk? It's not a real live goat, is it??

 

I had specifically told her on several occasions that she wasn't to teach my daughter about Christianity.  She had also brought my daughter into church once!  I figure for her that it is so hard to break the religion from the cultural that she can't.  She can't see Christmas without talk of Christ or life events without a Christian overtone.  She tried to convince me that my daughter would be mocked for not being part of a mainstream religion....  Well, that is just her I guess.

 

I'm an American married to a Dane in Denmark so I straddle both worlds I guess.  The Yule goat is usually made of straw and it is a small to medium sized thing you keep around your house.  I know the Swedes light a large one on fire.  Some people put the straw ones in the fire every year and other people keep them.  I've always taken it as a tradition that Thor was watching to make sure that the Yule preparations were up to par, but some of that mythology has been lost over time.  You can buy them at Ikea in America as well!

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Hey all, not sure but wanting to contribute but I feel so disconnected from life these days. My father passed last Monday and I have always been very sensitive to ancestors during this time of very and feel like the veil is very thin already. Anyone else feeling more alert to spirit happenings on the other side? Or had an increase in dreams? Seems messages are everywhere.

 

I am reading your posts about Jesus teaching, such a hard spot for us as well. When she was much younger her daycare provider told her that God and Jesus love her and watch over her. She kept telling me Jesus loves me so I am ok. I lost it over that and my husband was just like "honey everyone will share their beliefs, just teach her what "we" believe."  I still boil up thinking about a provider teaching about god and jesus.... I todl my DD that Jesus was an incredible spiritual teacher who many people believe in the same way we believe in faeries, Mama Earth, Sistermoon, Brother Sun, Father Sky, our ancestors, dreams, community, sustainable agriculture, star matter and chocolate.

 

For me, I've always been sensitive as well.  The weird thing is that my dad, who passed in August, I have not felt at all.   I'm sorry to hear of your father's recent death - it can be very hard to go through.  I think even several months later it is just every time I pick up the phone to call him and then realize that he is gone that it really hits.  I've felt almost nothing spiritual since he has been gone.  :(

 

I find even that at a young age, she does have questions about other people's religions, so I try to answer them in a very plain way. I do struggle with not putting my own biases upon her about the full face veils we sometimes encounter or different aspects of religions.  That is something I need to work on.

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All: I've been in absentia for awhile, for good reason. Three weeks ago my brother, who was awaiting trial, disappeared. His house was broken into, his gold was missing, and the tracking anklet had been cut off. He had been diagnosed with a host of mental issues including severe PTSD. He is still missing and it isn't like him to just take off. We are concerned that he was forcibly taken for money or revenge.
On the other hand, I have published three books and gotten my first official paid ghostwriting job with great reviews. We are getting a 1/4 grassfed cow and a friend of my parents is giving us a freezer for free! We are planning out a busy winter/fall renovation projet schedule and getting ready for the holiday cram. DH is doing well at his job, which has spawned a topic for the podcast: Sacred Slaughter. We are looking at a very financially secure season, which is great, but unusual.
Oh, and regarding the stealth Christian grandma thing, my mom bought DS a boardbook for the Christmas Story. Sometimes DS still picks it for bedtime books. I replace the names, places, etc. with Horus, Isis, Osiris, etc. Cuz I'm ebil!

I'm so sorry about your brother. I hope he's okay. How are you doing?

 

Three books? Wow! What kind of renovation projects do you have for this fall and winter? We have a lot planned for this autumn and winter, too. I hope we manage to put up drywall in two more bedrooms at least as well as rework the electrical so that we can install overhead lights in both rooms as well. I'd love to get drywall up in the hall and living room and install overhead lighting in the living room as well, but since I have major landscaping I want to get done in early spring, that probably won't happen.

 

LOL about the books. I love it!

 

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Revolting  goodvibes.gif sent your way.  Don't be too jealous of those who can trace our ancestry back pretty far (I've got to about 1200 on part of my dad's side and 1500/1600/1700 with the rest).  It isn't all that interesting!  I think it would at least tickle my fancy a bit more if they had kept journals or you knew what they all did for a living and what their personalities were like.  Endless birth/death/marriage records just become numbers after a while.  Thankfully I've got some Mormons in the family who did most of the research for me.  

 

Wolfcat    I usually just use Asatru as kind of short hand.  People here tend to say they practice the "Old Ways" or the such.  Do you and your husband do rituals/holidays together?  Things have been soo busy and stressful lately that we've both been totally neglecting our spirituality.  I hope that everything turns out ok with your brother.

 

My mother, who is a non-practicing Christian, decided to teach my daughter about Jesus last Christmas.  I wasn't amused in the slightest.  I don't have a problem with her learning about it, but I'd rather it come from a factual background and presented in a non-biased way.

 

Halloween isn't really celebrated here but there are a handful of pumpkin type things, but the Jule (Yule) decorations and wrapping paper are already out at supermarkets and Ikea.  I bought my first julebuk (Yule goat)  of the year already! It is a really old tradition that is rooted in Thor being pulled through the sky by goats!

 

None of my ancestors I've traced far enough back that there aren't any family stories. Like, my father can't remember his great-grandfather's name, but he passed to me this wonderful family story about how he fought in the Confederate Army and at Missionary Ridge, they were so hungry they ate their mules. Isn't that a great story? But it could be like my husband's family who for so long thought they had Sioux ancestry until his grandmother developed an interest in genealogy and found out that actually, the ancestor they thought was Sioux wasn't...he just had a lot of involvement and interest in the Sioux. I've thought a bit about molecular genealogy, if for nothing else to get a sense of the ethnic identity of my mother's biological parents. She doesn't know, though she tells people she Italian. People often asked about my race, so I do wonder. (Of course, my daughter looks about as white as you can look; my son looks more like an eastern Jew than his Jewish father, so it may well be nothing.) I do know my mother was relinquished to a Lutheran adoption agency, which suggests that the mother was Lutheran, but who knows?

 

Already? I'm US-centric enough to refuse to think about the winter holidays until after Thanksgiving.

 

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Hey all, not sure but wanting to contribute but I feel so disconnected from life these days. My father passed last Monday and I have always been very sensitive to ancestors during this time of very and feel like the veil is very thin already. Anyone else feeling more alert to spirit happenings on the other side? Or had an increase in dreams? Seems messages are everywhere.

 

Also gearing up for a more focused celebration/ritual with my little one where we will create an ancestor altar together, which makes me a little sad since last year we were with my dad when we did it; though he wasn't really aware of what me and DD were doing, he just thought it was another one of the "weird" things I do and joked about eating the food I put out.Looks like this year he will get to enjoy the food afterall.

 

I am reading your posts about Jesus teaching, such a hard spot for us as well. When she was much younger her daycare provider told her that God and Jesus love her and watch over her. She kept telling me Jesus loves me so I am ok. I lost it over that and my husband was just like "honey everyone will share their beliefs, just teach her what "we" believe."  I still boil up thinking about a provider teaching about god and jesus.... I todl my DD that Jesus was an incredible spiritual teacher who many people believe in the same way we believe in faeries, Mama Earth, Sistermoon, Brother Sun, Father Sky, our ancestors, dreams, community, sustainable agriculture, star matter and chocolate.

 

So sorry for your loss. How are you doing?

 

I definitely can feel the veil starting to thin. I've had a really strong sense of my grandfather in the last few weeks. I had a weird relationship with my grandfather growing up; I only saw him twice a year when I was really little, so I barely remember him before he came to live with us when he had pretty advanced Alzheimer's: he never knew who I was; he didn't interact with me much; and he kind of frightened me. But then this October, when I've done very very little genealogical research due to all the other stuff I have on my plate, I find a picture of him in his high school year book from his Freshman year and my daughter brings a book from the library that is the only book I can ever remember my grandfather reading to me when I was a child. My mother, who almost never talks about my paternal grandfather, recently brought up how the only thing her father-in-law really wanted from her was for her to have children. (My mother doesn't know about our efforts of trying to conceive or the losses we've had.) I've just had a very strong sense of his presence lately.

 

How old is your kid or kids? It's really unprofessional of a caregiver to indoctrinate like that. Ugh.

 

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For me, I've always been sensitive as well.  The weird thing is that my dad, who passed in August, I have not felt at all.   I'm sorry to hear of your father's recent death - it can be very hard to go through.  I think even several months later it is just every time I pick up the phone to call him and then realize that he is gone that it really hits.  I've felt almost nothing spiritual since he has been gone.  :(

 

So sorry for your loss. Perhaps, as the grief fades and the wheel continues to turn, you will feel him.

 

AFM: My eldest is reviving, so my parents will be able to watch her tomorrow while we work on the house and have a date to celebrate Sweetest Day (yeah, Midwesterner here). So, I've noticed the room where we've already redone the drywall...it definitely feels cleansed of the energy from the previous occupants, but the rest of the house even with refinishing the floors, it still has the same dark energy that I think kept this house on the market so long. It's an estate sale, and the woman who lived there before her death had a disabled child who couldn't take care of herself, and I think that energy is still in the house. I'm looking for ideas to cleanse the house. (We do simple spiritual cleansing stuff on new moons, but I think this house needs a deep clean, lol.) I'm also looking for ideas of greeting the land of somewhere that's going to be a permanent home for us. Most places we've lived have been very urban and transient: we haven't lived anywhere more than a couple years. The land really spoke to us when we moved her, and that was a huge part of why we bought the property, and I want to thank it and also start the work of really setting down roots in this land.

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My father passed last Monday

 

When she was much younger her daycare provider told her that God and Jesus love her and watch over her. ... I lost it over that and my husband was just like "honey everyone will share their beliefs, just teach her what "we" believe."  I still boil up thinking about a provider teaching about god and jesus

 

So sorry for your loss hug2.gif My father died in 1999. I'm not feeling him as much either, but he comes through at the weirdest times!

 

I think your DH is right, but it still makes my blood boil that so many people assume everyone is Christian because it's the dominant paradigm. How arrogant, y'know? I had started everything by saying (and still do) "...some people believe that...". Because I had started that when ds was little (he's 11 now), he eventually started saying "but what do WE believe?", and I would tell him, and as he got older, he started asking what *I* believe-- and so I could ask him what *he* believed. When he was little it was definitely a "we" situation. Now he's older, it's a him/me thing. Was neat to watch that evolve.

 

My ds's daycare lady, back when he was little (he went there from 2-1/2 to 5yo) started meals with the prayer "God is great, God is good..." and I did not know that for AGES, until he came home and wanted to use that prayer instead of the ones we'd been using. That was my meal blessing growing up, so I was double "WHERE did you hear that???" because I hadn't taught it to him! I was livid-- but the lady is old, and mainstream, and oldschool (she's 2y younger than my mom) and honestly had no idea there was ever any other way. It was hard, but I turned a blind eye to it.

 

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Originally Posted by nerissav View PostI had specifically told her on several occasions that she wasn't to teach my daughter about Christianity.  She had also brought my daughter into church once!  

 

She tried to convince me that my daughter would be mocked for not being part of a mainstream religion....  Well, that is just her I guess.

 

I'm an American married to a Dane in Denmark so I straddle both worlds I guess.  The Yule goat is usually made of straw and it is a small to medium sized thing you keep around your house.  I know the Swedes light a large one on fire.  Some people put the straw ones in the fire every year and other people keep them.  I've always taken it as a tradition that Thor was watching to make sure that the Yule preparations were up to par, but some of that mythology has been lost over time.

 

OK, I am not up on my Norse...what does Thor have to do with a goat? It sounds cool, though-- I like goats, and they are very popular to have, here, where I live. I would put up a small one maybe. I mean inches, not huge!

 

This <She tried to convince me that my daughter would be mocked for not being part of a mainstream religion>-- Um, whatever. That's YOUR problem, not your mother's. I hate when my mom pulls that sh*t. My business, Mom!

 

I didn't want my mom muddying my son's religious education either, when he was little. I don't care now, because he's old enough to make up his own mind, but at two? Three? No way was that allowed. I didn't have a problem with church, because at that age he'd have no idea what was going on anyway, but she'd better ask me first!

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Originally Posted by revolting View PostI've thought a bit about molecular genealogy, if for nothing else to get a sense of the ethnic identity of my mother's biological parents. She doesn't know, though she tells people she Italian. People often asked about my race, so I do wonder. (Of course, my daughter looks about as white as you can look; my son looks more like an eastern Jew than his Jewish father, so it may well be nothing.) I do know my mother was relinquished to a Lutheran adoption agency, which suggests that the mother was Lutheran, but who knows?

 

Already? I'm US-centric enough to refuse to think about the winter holidays until after Thanksgiving.

 

What is molecular genealogy? I KWYM about people having different versions, though-- if you asked me, I'd tell you I'm Hungarian Jew on my mother's side, and on my father's a mix of English (Mayflower), Dutch, and German, a splattering of Iroquois, some American South and North both. My brother probably would just say Jewish for our mom's side, but he'd say German on our Dad's. I think.

 

We don't do Thanksgiving in my house-- for a couple of reasons. One is that my son and I both think setting aside ONE DAY a year for being grateful is obnoxious. The other is that there are just the two of us. He couldn't care less about a special meal. And doesn't particularly like turkey. The only family we have near is my mom, who is an 8-hour drive away, and she's over it too. She'd just throw a turkey breast in the crock pot and a fancy tablecloth on, and call it a day. When I was a child, we had like 20ppl around the table, it was a huge to-do, there was a kids' table, decorations...the whole 9 yards. I just don't see the point for just two of us.

SO I have a woman come take care of ds, and I go see my honey in MA.

 

I'm weird that I start on the next holiday right after the current one is over-- but they're Pagan holidays, so I'm often early compared to secular holidays. Early November, I am starting to transition to Yule!

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Kaydove, just a thought, but I don't think that your mom will be able to draw a line there. It will probably end up being no religion at ALL, from her, rather than bible stories and Jesus, but no heaven, hell, sin, or converting.. Though she may mellow-- but I'm not seeing it. You will have to worry about this stuff as early as 2yo. As soon as your dd is vocal and gets stories read to her.
And srsly, you have to watch for stealth grandparenting-- my own mom tried to get away with this kind of shite! And I would NEVER, ever have pegged my mom for someone who'd do that. Reading bible stories, sheesh. She's Episcopalian, but she only started studying the Bible not very long ago. She's more Sunday and Christmas religious, not all-the-time-soul-consuming religious. I was mortified. Oh, and feeding my ds crap food, thinking she's treating him and I'm depriving. OMG. I kid you not, your dd is just a wee babe right now, but ALL the family/friend ugly is about to come out on you.


I highly, HIGHLY advise you to search for the "bean dip" threads on MDC. Very highly.

 

 

 

I found the Bean Dip article and that was just what I need to hear. I do tend to site research to defend myself and definitely need to learn to just change the subject! 

 

 

 

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Welcome!

 

Just wanted to pop in and announce that I got my BFP this morning. Please send any energy, prayers, magic for a healthy, sticky baby this time.

Congratulations!!! I lite a candle last night for a sticky bean!

 

 

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Kaydove: what are you reading? Cunningham is always my first recommendation for newbies. Also, there's Green Witchcraft.http://www.amazon.com/Green-Witchcraft-Magic-Fairy-Series/dp/1567186904 It's good, but not my path.
nissav: DH is a Norse follower, though not Asatru. Good to see some more Odenskinder here!
Revolting: many blessings of the gorilla glue variety
All: I've been in absentia for awhile, for good reason. Three weeks ago my brother, who was awaiting trial, disappeared. His house was broken into, his gold was missing, and the tracking anklet had been cut off. He had been diagnosed with a host of mental issues including severe PTSD. He is still missing and it isn't like him to just take off. We are concerned that he was forcibly taken for money or revenge.
On the other hand, I have published three books and gotten my first official paid ghostwriting job with great reviews. We are getting a 1/4 grassfed cow and a friend of my parents is giving us a freezer for free! We are planning out a busy winter/fall renovation projet schedule and getting ready for the holiday cram. DH is doing well at his job, which has spawned a topic for the podcast: Sacred Slaughter. We are looking at a very financially secure season, which is great, but unusual.
Oh, and regarding the stealth Christian grandma thing, my mom bought DS a boardbook for the Christmas Story. Sometimes DS still picks it for bedtime books. I replace the names, places, etc. with Horus, Isis, Osiris, etc. Cuz I'm ebil!

 

 

I just started Cottage Witchery and I'm liking it! I started "Exploring the Pagan Path: Wisdom From the Elders" and its so so. I also started "The Sacred Wheel: a guide to the Pagan year for beginners in Witchcraft and Wicca" and its not speaking to me either, but I do like Cottage Witchery so far. I really like the idea of cooking with intent. One side of me is really practical and logical and the other side believes in the mystical and sometimes they're at odds, so some books that don't jive well with me. I do like the practical, tangible-ness of kitchen witchery. 

 

 

 

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Hey all, not sure but wanting to contribute but I feel so disconnected from life these days. My father passed last Monday and I have always been very sensitive to ancestors during this time of very and feel like the veil is very thin already. Anyone else feeling more alert to spirit happenings on the other side? Or had an increase in dreams? Seems messages are everywhere.

 

Also gearing up for a more focused celebration/ritual with my little one where we will create an ancestor altar together, which makes me a little sad since last year we were with my dad when we did it; though he wasn't really aware of what me and DD were doing, he just thought it was another one of the "weird" things I do and joked about eating the food I put out.Looks like this year he will get to enjoy the food afterall.

 

I am reading your posts about Jesus teaching, such a hard spot for us as well. When she was much younger her daycare provider told her that God and Jesus love her and watch over her. She kept telling me Jesus loves me so I am ok. I lost it over that and my husband was just like "honey everyone will share their beliefs, just teach her what "we" believe."  I still boil up thinking about a provider teaching about god and jesus.... I todl my DD that Jesus was an incredible spiritual teacher who many people believe in the same way we believe in faeries, Mama Earth, Sistermoon, Brother Sun, Father Sky, our ancestors, dreams, community, sustainable agriculture, star matter and chocolate.

 

 

I was surprised to read that day care provider told your DD about Jesus! Even if I was still Christian, I would be upset since its none of their business! 

 

 

 

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We don't do Thanksgiving in my house-- for a couple of reasons. One is that my son and I both think setting aside ONE DAY a year for being grateful is obnoxious. The other is that there are just the two of us. He couldn't care less about a special meal. And doesn't particularly like turkey. The only family we have near is my mom, who is an 8-hour drive away, and she's over it too. She'd just throw a turkey breast in the crock pot and a fancy tablecloth on, and call it a day. When I was a child, we had like 20ppl around the table, it was a huge to-do, there was a kids' table, decorations...the whole 9 yards. I just don't see the point for just two of us.

SO I have a woman come take care of ds, and I go see my honey in MA.

 

I'm weird that I start on the next holiday right after the current one is over-- but they're Pagan holidays, so I'm often early compared to secular holidays. Early November, I am starting to transition to Yule!

 

 

I hear you on not celebrating Thanksgiving. We're new to our city with no family and like 3 friends so no idea what we will end up doing. My DH has issues with it because he's half native american. 

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