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[AmandaLynnH]

I ended up not getting the flu shot until I could ask my doctor about it.  I've read all the conflicting info on it so I chickened out.  DH got one though and hasn't reported any ill side effects yet.  Since we work at a university and he works with most of the populations here he usually gets me sick, like he did this time around.  My mom had H1N1 as did my SIL when she was pregnant and she said that was a bad turning point in her pregnancy.  I've never gotten a flu shot before and only gotten the flu once since working here so I'm torn.

I was actually hungry last night.  Had McDonalds for dinner (yea...we've both been sick so our diet hasn't been pretty this week) and then later DH went out and got me taco bell, lol.  Of course then my stomach wasn't so sure that eating was a good idea and got upset not once, not twice, but three times.  Fortunately no puking but seriously, make up your mind already!

Very much looking forward to the weekend.  DH and I both need sleep in the worst way since this cold has him coughing a lot, especially at night.  He wakes up around 5 because he's coughing and heads downstairs so he doesn't wake me, but him getting up still wakes me most days.  Just trying to run out the clock at work here.

Then again though, we really should paint our kitchen this weekend since it's supposed to be warmer out.  We'll have to see if we have the motivation or not.

Hope everyone has a good weekend.

[adventuregirl]

Originally Posted by Lynann 

It appears to me that if we don't want to just do as we are told and sit quietly on the conveyer belt of US Obstetrics letting our care provider control everything, then we need to stay away from mainstream care providers.

Well said Lyn!!! I totally agree and that's why I stay far away.

I don't do flu shots, I have a strong immune system and I'd like to keep it that way.

It has been so hard to get out of bed this whole week, I super excited for the weekend! Anybody have any fun plans?

[aries girl]

Originally Posted by CoBabyMaker 

There is a mom I know that has adopted a number of FAS kids and she said that  in her research she has found that it seems some people are just more genetically prone to FAS than others.  I will have a sip here or there and have had a glass of wine with each of my mine in an effort to relax in pre-labor.  That's about all I am comfortable with personally.  I cook with it freely.

I needed to color my hair when I got my BFP.  Things are getting scary with my new growth here too!  I don't have a ton of gray yet (or at least that's what I tell myself) but my roots are so much darker.  I am going to go darker once I am feeling better and then try to leave it alone for the rest of the pregnancy.  We'll see how that goes.

I scheduled an acupuncture appt for tomorrow morning to hopefully help with the morning sickness.  Aries Girl, that might be something for you to look into.  I am basically at the same place as you on the Zofran but can still barely move out of bed and still throwing up.  A friend of mine knew someone who had complete relief of symptoms of HG with acupuncture.  I tried it with my first and didn't get relief but i think it was the practitioner.  I am so hopeful that this will help.  I need to get off this Zofran ASAP, I don't like it and I am so so constipated. 

I just got the name of an acupuncturist this morning to schedule an appt with to see if if will help.  I hope it helps you!  I am super lucky that zofran doesn't cause constipation for me, and I was on it for my entire pregnancy last time. 

Ridulous dark/grey roots here too!  I can't wait until I can stand the smell so I can get my hair done!  I think that if I manage to do it during the 1st trimester I'll do foils, instead of the all over color that I really need.  But after the 1st tri I will definitely do the all over.  I would be tempted to try henna if my sisters hair hadn't turned green from it once

No flu shot for me...ever :)

[BaileyB]

I"m not getting the flu shot either. I have in the past because I can be such a pushover but I was really mad about it last year. I got the flu shot and DD somehow accidentally got 2 (yea, not happy!) and DH did not get the flu shot. Well, DD and I got the flu and DH didn't, go figure. I REFUSE to get it this year. Also, I find it creepy how everywhere you go someone is propagandizing how you are doing your duty to get it, or how convenient it is, or how important it is to get it.

[PhilsBabyMama]

I didn't get the flu shot last time around and don't plan to this pregnancy, either.

[PhilsBabyMama]

I found the research mentioned in this article interesting.  I love good wine and good beer, but they don't appeal to me in the least at the moment.    When I was in my early second trimester with my son, I took a couple sips of wine and it immediately came back up.  Towards the end of my third trimester, I would occasionally have a glass of wine when we'd get together with friends to play board games on Saturday nights. (We led such a wild life! lol)  My midwife said it was perfectly fine and I have a hard time believing that such a small amount of alcohol could cause a problem. 

"But new data from Denmark suggests that light to moderate drinking early in pregnancy — up to eight drinks a week — has no effect on intelligence, attention or self-control in children at age 5. Drinking more heavily, however, was associated with measurable negative effects.

Researchers studied slightly more than 1,600 Danish women and their children, comparing those born to nondrinkers with children of heavy, light, moderate or binge drinkers. Women in the low-consumption group had one to four drinks a week; moderate drinkers had five to eight drinks a week; and heavy drinkers had nine or more. Binge drinking was defined as having at least five drinks on a single occasion. The research included nearly a third of all Danish women who were pregnant between 1997 and 2003.

In five papers published in the BJOG journal, the authors report finding no effect of light, moderate or even binge drinking in pregnancy on children’s overall IQ, ability to pay attention or executive function, which involves self-control and the ability to organize and plan behavior, at age 5."

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2012/06/20/alcohol-in-pregnancy-light-to-moderate-drinking-is-safe-study-says/#ixzz2986jbdG6

[BaileyB]

Oh the morning sickness/heartburn combo! Anybody else get this? I have actual morning sickness in the morning and then I am pretty good in the middle of the day but then the heartburn that starts at 4 when I am tired and hungry totally sucks.

Just whining. I am especially tired today as I was outside ALL DAMN DAY! And now I have to go out ad do more animal chores.

[reikimama]

I saw that same article and a few others, PhilsBabyMama.  I was also glad to see how many people chimed in on the positive, it's about personal responsibility side.  In my first two pgs, we had a British neighbor that would tell me a glass of wine during pregnancy wasn't going to hurt you.  With both, I think I had a glass of wine the whole time with each of them.  With #3, I didn't drink, but I am not going to stop myself from having a sip when I feel like it this pg.  That means less than 4oz. and honestly right now, I don't have a taste for it with my nausea.

Not pg, I don't do sodas or sweet drinks (sometimes juice but most of the time it's too sweet for me), basically my normal diet is coffee in the AM (sans sugar but with cream), water during the day & then a glass or two of organic red wine at night.  I don't do more than that because I don't need to feel bad.  And I do feel that for centuries that humans drank wine, beer and ale before they would drink water because of safety issues.  Our culture just doesn't get self-control, IMO.

The gray hair issue... Mine is scary.  I have been going grey since I was in my 20's.  I can't even blame it on the kids!  LOL!  For a while, I went really dark, but I was having to dye it every 3 weeks to keep from looking horrible.  Before I found out I was pg, I started highlighting for the first time in my life, which I do not "like" but I like not having mine very grey hair showing within a week and a half.  Plus, I can wait a while longer between coloring.  The best plus is that the dark colors (even natural versions) always make my glands on the back of my neck swell for a couple of days and the lighter colors don't do it.  The downsides... The crappy texture, feeling like my hair now looks like everyone else's at the beach and the cost of root color and highlights.  Aging gracefully is expensive sometimes. 

About morning sickness, I think it needs to be renamed.  Mine comes at night.  It's so hard to lie down feeling so nasty.  I am so grateful for the nausea, though. 

DH still hasn't told anyone.  I don't care about him telling family, truly, but I wish he would be more open with our close friends.  I am about to tell my birth families in the next few days.

Flu shot... I have never gotten one.  My MIL got one in Baltimore a few weeks ago and she was immediately sick.  My mother had one about 9 years ago and ended up with Guillain-Barre Syndrome.  She still claims that's not how she got it, but she's never allowed to have a flu shot again.  We've only had 1 flu sickness in the family in 11 years and that was when DD1 first weaned and within a month she was super sick on Christmas Eve.  Thankfully, our MD never said a word to me about the fact that we hadn't gotten one. 

Wishing everyone a great rest of your weekend!

[jacquelinej]

Originally Posted by Lynann 

I'm part of a VBAC group on FB, and right now one of the mamas is having to fight her OB just to be able to go into labor on her own as they keep trying to force her into a repeat c-section. They even called the police on her yesterday, and she is now having to get a lawyer just to protect her constitutional right to bodily integrity and informed consent. All because the OB won't listen to her when she has refused to just schedule a repeat c-section, even though he said he was supportive of VBACs earlier on in her pregnancy.

It appears to me that if we don't want to just do as we are told and sit quietly on the conveyer belt of US Obstetrics letting our care provider control everything, then we need to stay away from mainstream care providers.

That is so outrageous.  I would just schedule it and not show up.  What are they going to do, come to your house and find you/force you into surgery?  You get to fire the doctor anytime you want.  I just don't understand, that seems way to controlling to me.  They are a lot like this in Japan, problem is, it is far more widely accepted here.  Which is why I refuse to have a baby in Japan!  I'm tempted to just go to New Zealand, DH is a kiwi and their birth culture is so much better!

[jacquelinej]

Originally Posted by PhilsBabyMama 

I found the research mentioned in this article interesting.  I love good wine and good beer, but they don't appeal to me in the least at the moment.    When I was in my early second trimester with my son, I took a couple sips of wine and it immediately came back up.  Towards the end of my third trimester, I would occasionally have a glass of wine when we'd get together with friends to play board games on Saturday nights. (We led such a wild life! lol)  My midwife said it was perfectly fine and I have a hard time believing that such a small amount of alcohol could cause a problem. 

"But new data from Denmark suggests that light to moderate drinking early in pregnancy — up to eight drinks a week — has no effect on intelligence, attention or self-control in children at age 5. Drinking more heavily, however, was associated with measurable negative effects.

Researchers studied slightly more than 1,600 Danish women and their children, comparing those born to nondrinkers with children of heavy, light, moderate or binge drinkers. Women in the low-consumption group had one to four drinks a week; moderate drinkers had five to eight drinks a week; and heavy drinkers had nine or more. Binge drinking was defined as having at least five drinks on a single occasion. The research included nearly a third of all Danish women who were pregnant between 1997 and 2003.

In five papers published in the BJOG journal, the authors report finding no effect of light, moderate or even binge drinking in pregnancy on children’s overall IQ, ability to pay attention or executive function, which involves self-control and the ability to organize and plan behavior, at age 5."

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2012/06/20/alcohol-in-pregnancy-light-to-moderate-drinking-is-safe-study-says/#ixzz2986jbdG6

Thank you SOOOO much for posting this.  I've wanted to talk to DH about it, we've discussed it and I couldn't find the papers so I just dropped it.  I am used to drinking one a day (red wine) and I feel like something is totally missing....water just does not go as well with cheese!  DH read this and said he has no problem with it at all.  He's not controlling, he just wants to make sure we both decide on things that affect the baby.  

I'm going to attempt a few sips tonight!  AHHH!  I'm a horrible mom...  

[Ghislaine]

The alcohol that our ancestors drank for centuries was usually weaker then what we drink now.  It often wasn't brewed/aged as long as it is now and watering it down wasn't uncommon either.  There was enough alcohol to kill the bacteria in the water and stretched out the beer/wine/cider to last longer.  Watered down beer is actually pretty refreshing, kinda like lemonade in my experience.

We just told our parents last night.  My mom usually hosts Thanksgiving for all of us but they are going to be out of town so she held it last night instead.  We took the opportunity to make our announcement to them since they were together.  My MIL is so excited, but I know she'll keep quiet about it because she was good about that the last time.  At Halloween I'll wear one of those skeleton maternity shirts to announce it to the rest of my husband's family because the little cousins go trick or treating together.
 

[nstewart]

Originally Posted by Ghislaine 

The alcohol that our ancestors drank for centuries was usually weaker then what we drink now.  It often wasn't brewed/aged as long as it is now and watering it down wasn't uncommon either.  There was enough alcohol to kill the bacteria in the water and stretched out the beer/wine/cider to last longer.  Watered down beer is actually pretty refreshing, kinda like lemonade in my experience.

 

Absolutely true, they drank "small beer" usually which is exactly as you are describing.  But people also drank litres of it per day! lol.I was reading a travel article about a really neat Rhine river cruise and the author mentioned in passing that the "ration" of wine for monks was 2L per day (that would be 64oz) and for nuns it was 1L or 32 oz (not that they had to worry about being pregnant, normally).  Can you imagine???

[Megmoira]

Maybe the monastic orders weren't so bad, eh? A quart of wine per day, homemade bread, cheese and salt. 

Nah, I'd prefer sex and meat too. 

Sorry, I'm punchy and random this afternoon... I'll most likely have the occasional glass of wine in the second half of my pregnancy, but right now, there's a strong aversion to wine and beer.

[BaileyB]

Originally Posted by Ghislaine 

The alcohol that our ancestors drank for centuries was usually weaker then what we drink now.  It often wasn't brewed/aged as long as it is now and watering it down wasn't uncommon either.  There was enough alcohol to kill the bacteria in the water and stretched out the beer/wine/cider to last longer.  Watered down beer is actually pretty refreshing, kinda like lemonade in my experience.

We just told our parents last night.  My mom usually hosts Thanksgiving for all of us but they are going to be out of town so she held it last night instead.  We took the opportunity to make our announcement to them since they were together.  My MIL is so excited, but I know she'll keep quiet about it because she was good about that the last time.  At Halloween I'll wear one of those skeleton maternity shirts to announce it to the rest of my husband's family because the little cousins go trick or treating together.
 

We don't really do anything for halloween but this year my DD's mommy and me class, which is in the evenings, lands on halloween so now I really want one of those shirts to wear to her class!

Originally Posted by Megmoira 

Maybe the monastic orders weren't so bad, eh? A quart of wine per day, homemade bread, cheese and salt. YUM!

Nah, I'd prefer sex and meat too. Me too!

Sorry, I'm punchy and random this afternoon... I'll most likely have the occasional glass of wine in the second half of my pregnancy, but right now, there's a strong aversion to wine and beer.

[BaileyB]

Oh and on the drinking front...there was a Buffalo Wild Wings commercial on lastnite and it showed a huge glass of beer and it looked so good at the time. I bet watered down beer would be good, too.

[TwilightJoy]

Happy (almost) halfway thru October, ladies! I pulled up our dates today, looks like we're between 7 and 11 weeks along!

Due May 1: 11 weeks, 4 days
Due May 31: 7 weeks, 2 days

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On my mind today is stretchmarks. This is baby #1 for me and I would love to avoid them. I've read conflicting info on whether oil/lotion helps or not or if you're just genetically prone to stretchmarks. I think I'll buy some lotion and start applying it- can't hurt!

Any tips on how you avoided stretchmarks with your last pregnancy?

[jeanblu]

Originally Posted by TwilightJoy 

Any tips on how you avoided stretchmarks with your last pregnancy?

I didn't. ;)

I believe that the lotion works/it's just genetics stuff you'll find will be mostly anecdotal.  However, like you, I don't think that buttering your belly up will do any harm, so why not.  Helps with the itchiness, too!

[reikimama]

Originally Posted by jeanblu 

I didn't. ;)

I believe that the lotion works/it's just genetics stuff you'll find will be mostly anecdotal.  However, like you, I don't think that buttering your belly up will do any harm, so why not.  Helps with the itchiness, too!

I didn't either.  I've got stretch marks.  They aren't so bad.  I lotion like mad because of the itchiness, but I've been stretched out 3 times before.  It's not gonna help now.  This reminds me of the "Your boobs will sag if you breastfeed."  Well, after 8 years of nursing the other babies mine don't, but they they were never super-perky.  Luckily, the women in my birth family don't have saggy boobs. 

Watered-down wine or wine cut with grape juice sounds better than straight wine right now.  Beer, bletch.

I look like I am 3 months pg instead of 8w 3 days.  Hello big belly!

[Virginia884]

No to the flu shot (haven't had one since my mom stopped giving them to us; she's a nurse and tells me to get one every fall... never do).

Yes to the wine! I was a white wine drinker before DD and then during her pregnancy I suddenly craved red wine all the time. Midwives said no, but I still had some once we had our 20 week ultrasound and saw that everything was looking good (not that I think the wine would cause any issues, but I would hate to drink and then find something wrong and then wonder "what if??"). We went out for dinner the day of our ultrasound and I shared a glass with DH. A few other times I had half a glass while out to eat and no one ever gave me trouble. DH didn't like it too much, but he didn't protest. 

Who else is due around May 1?? Second trimester will be here so soon!

[jeanblu]

^ If anything, I like the way my boobs look better now after having nursed my little one for 2+ years.  They definitely didn't sag.  My tummy did, though. 

Yep, early May here.  Can hardly wait for that second trimester and hopefully the energy that returns with it (please oh please, lol).