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post #81 of 212
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I did have some "tastes" here and there.  winky.gif

 

Yea, I've read that a lot of the "shouldn'ts" in pregnancy are from an American slant.  The theory is they think Americans don't know how to do things in moderation so they'd rather say don't have this or that than risk someone having it all day every day, having a problem, and getting sued.  Or there just aren't enough studies done to know for sure so again, better safe than sued.  It's kind of annoying if you ask me because it's hard to get good info so I can make the choice myself.

post #82 of 212
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Yea, I've read that a lot of the "shouldn'ts" in pregnancy are from an American slant.  The theory is they think Americans don't know how to do things in moderation so they'd rather say don't have this or that than risk someone having it all day every day, having a problem, and getting sued.  Or there just aren't enough studies done to know for sure so again, better safe than sued.  It's kind of annoying if you ask me because it's hard to get good info so I can make the choice myself.
Exactly right, a lot of the shouldn'ts are because they think if they say well a drink here and there is ok that some women will run out and have 5 drinks in 2 hours and think that is ok and then sue. It is ridiculous for sure, but I can't blame them too much with how sue-happy people are here, even if the doc ultimately wins, just fighting the battle can be very costly in terms of time and money. I know I am comfortable having a taste of wine or beer on occasion anytime during pregnancy and in the third trimester a small glass of wine or half a beer on occasion I am completely comfortable with and non-alcoholic beers (which usually still have a minuscule amount of alcohol because they take normal beer and somehow distill the alcohol out) are also a nice way to fill that beer void when I really want one smile.gif

It is super frustrating when you are trying to weigh risks though for sure. Luckily, my OB is pretty good about giving off the record advice, like "Here is the party-line, but here is what you can actually do and be fine." It's also annoying because it makes it hard to figure out which things really are a big deal and which aren't as the same emphasis is often given to any no-no.
post #83 of 212

I think it can kind of back fire on them, too. If they say no to so many trivial things then some people will say screw it and just do whatever they want without knowing what really is good and bad. At the grocery store today I was eating soft cheese that they had out for samples and I bought and drank a Kombucha. I have had a sip of alcohol here and there in my pregnancies and I craved wine with my DD and had maybe 2 small glasses towards then end. She's kind of a nudist and likes to do somersaults but she turned out alright. haha.

post #84 of 212

Hrm, the wine thing has come up for us quite a bit.  I really enjoy my wine, I don't drink anything else other than water, tea and occassionally coffee.  Plus I don't eat sweets for the most part so it is my only 'splurge'.  Pre-pregnancy it was 1 glass/night, but I didn't have one every night.  That said, I had to explain the conflict and the source of the conflict to DH when I got pregnant.  I have not yet given into the desire, deciding that I would wait until I was further along to ensure no problems.  But I am still on the fence about it.  I did not have any with DD, but that was after the stillbirth and I was scared to death something else would go wrong.

 

Meh, I don't know....

post #85 of 212

Hi!  I just joined the DDC a few days ago and this is my first post.  I'm Jasmine, age 38 from NH.  I have a 6 yo DS and am due with my second on May 22.  I love being a part of a DDC, and being able to follow along with other women who are experiencing some of the same things I am!  

 

I cannot even begin to catch up and comment on all of the previous posts so I'll just go from here : )

 

I do hope that everyone who is experiencing nausea, etc feesl better soon.  I am a hyperemesis sufferer myself and am on zofran every 8 hours and still spend the majority of my time on the couch.  It can be rather depressing to feel so crappy everyday.  So I empathise with others who are sick and it also gives me hope to read the posts from others who are feeling good!   

post #86 of 212
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I think it can kind of back fire on them, too. If they say no to so many trivial things then some people will say screw it and just do whatever they want without knowing what really is good and bad. At the grocery store today I was eating soft cheese that they had out for samples and I bought and drank a Kombucha. I have had a sip of alcohol here and there in my pregnancies and I craved wine with my DD and had maybe 2 small glasses towards then end. She's kind of a nudist and likes to do somersaults but she turned out alright. haha.

 

ROTFLMAO.gifAbout your DD!

 

Now that I think about it, at my first appointment, the doctor went over some dietary stuff...heat lunch meat in the micro, no unpasteurized cheeses (but also that isn't really a concern in the U.S.), a cup of coffee or 2 a day is fine...but didn't mention alcohol at all. 

 

What I really need to do is schedule a hair appointment to cover these grays...STAT!

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There is a mom I know that has adopted a number of FAS kids and she said that  in her research she has found that it seems some people are just more genetically prone to FAS than others.  I will have a sip here or there and have had a glass of wine with each of my mine in an effort to relax in pre-labor.  That's about all I am comfortable with personally.  I cook with it freely.

 

 

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What I really need to do is schedule a hair appointment to cover these grays...STAT!

I needed to color my hair when I got my BFP.  Things are getting scary with my new growth here too!  I don't have a ton of gray yet (or at least that's what I tell myself) but my roots are so much darker.  I am going to go darker once I am feeling better and then try to leave it alone for the rest of the pregnancy.  We'll see how that goes.

 

 

I scheduled an acupuncture appt for tomorrow morning to hopefully help with the morning sickness.  Aries Girl, that might be something for you to look into.  I am basically at the same place as you on the Zofran but can still barely move out of bed and still throwing up.  A friend of mine knew someone who had complete relief of symptoms of HG with acupuncture.  I tried it with my first and didn't get relief but i think it was the practitioner.  I am so hopeful that this will help.  I need to get off this Zofran ASAP, I don't like it and I am so so constipated. 

post #88 of 212

I have A LOT of gray hair...first noticed in my 20s (unfortunately genetic).  For a while, I got away with just highlights, but now I need overall color.  I will try to convince my stylist not to go so dark so the re-growth isn't so noticable.  She prefers me dark brown, but that's probably because I have to go back to her more often.  winky.gif  But I never, ever go as often as I should.  No time!

 

 

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I needed to color my hair when I got my BFP.  Things are getting scary with my new growth here too!  I don't have a ton of gray yet (or at least that's what I tell myself) but my roots are so much darker.  I am going to go darker once I am feeling better and then try to leave it alone for the rest of the pregnancy.  We'll see how that goes.

 

 

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I'm another one in desperate need of some hair color. I have way too many gray hairs and my roots are getting ridiculous right now. I'd love to just let it go gray gracefully, but I have pretty dark hair and it just looks awful. I'm trying to wait a few more weeks until the nausea is gone before I color it, but I can't match the roots as it makes me look washed out so I have to go a few shades lighter. Then I get regrowth issues, so I either have to just stop coloring and let it grow out, or keep coloring every couple of months.

 

I do get why doctors are so cautious over their advice here, but I do think they can take it to extreme lengths. I grew up around women who were often advised to drink half a pint of stout every day when pregnant to help reduce anemia. Half a pint in the UK would be 10oz rather than the 8oz here in the USA. It appears to have worked really well too. I also know that women in France are encouraged to continue drinking a glass of red wine with their evening meal when pregnant. I personally don't care for the taste of any alcohol, but I do love coffee. I won't give it up completely, but do cut down a lot when pregnant and nursing. Sometimes a little common sense helps immensely.

post #90 of 212
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I'm another one in desperate need of some hair color. I have way too many gray hairs and my roots are getting ridiculous right now. I'd love to just let it go gray gracefully, but I have pretty dark hair and it just looks awful. I'm trying to wait a few more weeks until the nausea is gone before I color it, but I can't match the roots as it makes me look washed out so I have to go a few shades lighter. Then I get regrowth issues, so I either have to just stop coloring and let it grow out, or keep coloring every couple of months.

 

I do get why doctors are so cautious over their advice here, but I do think they can take it to extreme lengths. I grew up around women who were often advised to drink half a pint of stout every day when pregnant to help reduce anemia. Half a pint in the UK would be 10oz rather than the 8oz here in the USA. It appears to have worked really well too. I also know that women in France are encouraged to continue drinking a glass of red wine with their evening meal when pregnant. I personally don't care for the taste of any alcohol, but I do love coffee. I won't give it up completely, but do cut down a lot when pregnant and nursing. Sometimes a little common sense helps immensely.

I love coffee too, but have had to cut back in the last few years because I get so dehydrated from it. I am having 1 cup a day now, about a 6 oz tea cup size. On occasion I have had 2 of those cups a day the last few weeks. I don't drink pop hardly ever and I can't handle the sugar in it when I am pregnant so that's not an issue.

 

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Originally Posted by CoBabyMaker View Post

There is a mom I know that has adopted a number of FAS kids and she said that  in her research she has found that it seems some people are just more genetically prone to FAS than others.  I will have a sip here or there and have had a glass of wine with each of my mine in an effort to relax in pre-labor.  That's about all I am comfortable with personally.  I cook with it freely.

 

 

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What I really need to do is schedule a hair appointment to cover these grays...STAT!

I needed to color my hair when I got my BFP.  Things are getting scary with my new growth here too!  I don't have a ton of gray yet (or at least that's what I tell myself) but my roots are so much darker.  I am going to go darker once I am feeling better and then try to leave it alone for the rest of the pregnancy.  We'll see how that goes.

 

 

I scheduled an acupuncture appt for tomorrow morning to hopefully help with the morning sickness.  Aries Girl, that might be something for you to look into.  I am basically at the same place as you on the Zofran but can still barely move out of bed and still throwing up.  A friend of mine knew someone who had complete relief of symptoms of HG with acupuncture.  I tried it with my first and didn't get relief but i think it was the practitioner.  I am so hopeful that this will help.  I need to get off this Zofran ASAP, I don't like it and I am so so constipated. 

Me too! I had been taking it when I get up in the middle of the night to pee so that I am good to go when I get up. today I skipped because I really needed to poo. I did get to poo this morning but I also threw up first thing upon getting up. I took it again a few minutes ago.

 

My chiro is an acupuncturist. I am going to schedule some appts with him, too. Maybe I can get some massage appts too!  :-)

 

 

 

How is everyone doing in the weight gain (or loss) area? I am up about 5 lbs. at almost 11 weeks. I think that is the least amount I have ever gained in a first tri, even when I had HG with my first.

post #91 of 212
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I think it can kind of back fire on them, too. If they say no to so many trivial things then some people will say screw it and just do whatever they want without knowing what really is good and bad. At the grocery store today I was eating soft cheese that they had out for samples and I bought and drank a Kombucha. I have had a sip of alcohol here and there in my pregnancies and I craved wine with my DD and had maybe 2 small glasses towards then end. She's kind of a nudist and likes to do somersaults but she turned out alright. haha.

Yes, I agree.  I think a lot of the advice arises out of a litigious culture and also the fact that a few people have no common sense or self-restraint.  I think that we forget that for thousands of years drinking beer or wine was safer than drinking water and that in other parts of the world it is considered absolutely safe during pregnancy to have a glass of wine or beer.  It's only recently that this has not been the case.  I will enjoy a half glass of wine with food occasionally after the first trimester.  I will eat sushi from a reputable restaurant (the standards are actually very high for food safety in that regard) just like millions of japanese women do every day, I am sure.  I will eat soft cheese.  I don't eat lunch meat as a rule, so it's not really an issue during pregnancy for me.  I think that we each have to do what we are comfortable with.  I have a friend who will not touch any "restricted foods" during pregnancy but will go downhill skiing well along in her pregnancy, which I would never do.  We're both good skiiers but it's like driving: you have to worry about other skiiers not just yourself.  That or a patch of ice.  But, she's comfortable with it...

 

So far I've been genetically blessed in the grey hair department.  My great-grandfather had black hair into his 70s so maybe I'll be fortunate and follow after him.  I found my first grey a couple weeks ago.  Devestating!  I haven't dyed my hair since 2010 but I have no doubt that once more greys start appearing I'll be a regular bottle user.

post #92 of 212
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I think it can kind of back fire on them, too. If they say no to so many trivial things then some people will say screw it and just do whatever they want without knowing what really is good and bad. At the grocery store today I was eating soft cheese that they had out for samples and I bought and drank a Kombucha. I have had a sip of alcohol here and there in my pregnancies and I craved wine with my DD and had maybe 2 small glasses towards then end. She's kind of a nudist and likes to do somersaults but she turned out alright. haha.

Lol, Bailey!  So the wine DID influence her!!!

 

It's just frustrating.  I just want to know if I can have my mate tea when I have a migraine or not.  The only study that appears to have been done was with women over somewhere where they drink a ton of it so these women were drinking several liters a day.  I have one 16 oz travel mug most days when I have a migraine and it really seems to help.  But if it's going to make my baby have two heads then I'd rather deal with the headache pain than the pain of delivering a 2 headed baby, kwim?  And I may drink it outside a migraine too because it helps keep me awake but then we're talking the same levels as 2 cups of coffee which I know is fine.  I could certainly use the energy and a mate sounds really good right now unlike my black tea (or any of my teas....sigh...pregnancy has given me an aversion to one of my favorite things).

 

Still recovering from the cold DH shared with me.  Is it possible to sneeze the baby out?  I'm asking...er...for a friend.

 

But hey, it's my first day at work in a week.  No boss until the end of next week so it's not too bad.  And it's far too easy to fall asleep when working from home.  Not that it's impossible to do so at work...or, you know, so I've heard.

 

Working up the energy to go get a flu shot shortly.  They're offering them at work and I read online that it was good to get one when pregnant because then the baby gets one too.  But it's on the other side of campus and I'm sleeeeeeeeepy.  Anyone else flu shotting up?

post #93 of 212

I would SO love a glass of wine right now! I never drank in my previous pregnancy other than a few sips here and there, but I can see myself having a little wine in later on this time around. I like the idea of a glass in pre-labor.

 

Just discovered my first grey about a year ago and have about 5 or so. I am blonde so it isn't very noticeable. Do you have to do a special kind of dye while pg? Things I know nothing about...I colored my hair about 2 times ever back in high school.

 

I have no idea about weight gain, although I am sure there is some! I don't have a scale, but did go for my annual in early Aug so have a pre-preg number. I suppose I will get more numbers when I see the mw on Monday (not excited about that part).

post #94 of 212

Hi!  This is the first time I've posted to this thread. 

 

I've never been a big alcohol drinker so I don't miss it.  It helps keep people from getting suspicious since I often decline wine at dinner anyway!  wink1.gif  When we were trying to conceive my daughter we traveled to Europe for a big family gathering.  They were all like "What do you mean you aren't drinking?  Wine is good for the baby!"  LOL Not in the quantities that get pushed on us when we come to visit!  Everyone wants to have "un petit verre" with us, I swear I was tipsy by noon when we visited on our honeymoon!  However I'm not giving up raw milk, any kind of cheese, or sushi! 
 

My hair is naturally dirty blond so it has all kinds of color strands in it.  If there's a few gray hairs I haven't ever spotted them!  I can spot them in my younger husband's hair though!  LOL

 

I think today's the first day I haven't had to deal with nausea.  I wish I knew what was so different that I did today!  I'm only just 7 weeks along today.  Still pretty tired though and I'm on my second cold!  This one seems to be developing into a cough!  I don't get the flu shots.  I've got an egg allergy so I stay way far away from them!

post #95 of 212
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Working up the energy to go get a flu shot shortly.  They're offering them at work and I read online that it was good to get one when pregnant because then the baby gets one too.  But it's on the other side of campus and I'm sleeeeeeeeepy.  Anyone else flu shotting up?

I skip the flu shot (ok, I skip all of them).  I personally believe the risks out weigh the alleged benefits.

post #96 of 212

I'm another one who has never had a flu shot, ever. We keep vaccines to an absolute minimum, and the Flu shot just doesn't seem to have enough benefits to justify it, as lots of people DH works with get sick right after getting their annual flu shot, and we don't get the shots and don't get sick either. I also don't like the idea of needing a shot renewed every single year.

post #97 of 212

No flu shots here, but I do have my share of greys.  A hairdresser spotted a streak (read: way more than a few...) in my bangs when I was 23.  Woo! :P

 

I'm also curious about the safety of dyes during pregnancy.  My roots look like poop right now.  Does anyone here use henna?  I'd like to go that route if it's just as effective.

post #98 of 212
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I'm also curious about the safety of dyes during pregnancy.  My roots look like poop right now.  Does anyone here use henna?  I'd like to go that route if it's just as effective.

I am personally more comfortable with foil treatments during pregnancy (like highlights as opposed to all over color) because there is less skin exposure.  I am not kidding myself, I know there is some chemicals absorbed but it at least reduces it.  I don't have experience with Henna.  I do know that in cosmetology school they said that there can be strange reactions between the henna and dye when you go to color your hair again but, I've never experienced it personally.

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Working up the energy to go get a flu shot shortly.  They're offering them at work and I read online that it was good to get one when pregnant because then the baby gets one too.  But it's on the other side of campus and I'm sleeeeeeeeepy.  Anyone else flu shotting up?

Nope, definitely skipping the flu shot. I've never had one, and DEFINITELY won't in pregnancy. Don't trust 'em. Don't trust that they've been well researched in pregnant women.

Speaking of... the nurse at my OB's office for my 8 week appointment pressured me to get the flu shot. irked.gif I told her no, I wasn't going to get it. She told me that she highly recommended it, that it was especially important for pregnant women, blah blah blah. Told her no, didn't want it. After we were done with the rest of the appointment, she closed with, "okay, I'll send someone in to administer your flu shot." No! I don't want it! She then had to correct my chart- she had written down that I wanted it!
post #100 of 212
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Nope, definitely skipping the flu shot. I've never had one, and DEFINITELY won't in pregnancy. Don't trust 'em. Don't trust that they've been well researched in pregnant women.
Speaking of... the nurse at my OB's office for my 8 week appointment pressured me to get the flu shot. irked.gif I told her no, I wasn't going to get it. She told me that she highly recommended it, that it was especially important for pregnant women, blah blah blah. Told her no, didn't want it. After we were done with the rest of the appointment, she closed with, "okay, I'll send someone in to administer your flu shot." No! I don't want it! She then had to correct my chart- she had written down that I wanted it!

 

Sounds like you need to make a complaint about how pushy the nurse was. A good healthcare provider that is supportive won't push anything on you. Personally being treated like that would be a red flag to me. What else are they going to get pushy over later on. You may want to talk to the OB about it at your next appointment and if they blow it off I'd seriously consider trying to find a more supportive care provider. Their job is to support you with the kind of prenatal care and birth that you want, if they can only see their own standard version of care then you may end up with a very different kind of birth that you wanted.

 

I'm part of a VBAC group on FB, and right now one of the mamas is having to fight her OB just to be able to go into labor on her own as they keep trying to force her into a repeat c-section. They even called the police on her yesterday, and she is now having to get a lawyer just to protect her constitutional right to bodily integrity and informed consent. All because the OB won't listen to her when she has refused to just schedule a repeat c-section, even though he said he was supportive of VBACs earlier on in her pregnancy.

 

It appears to me that if we don't want to just do as we are told and sit quietly on the conveyer belt of US Obstetrics letting our care provider control everything, then we need to stay away from mainstream care providers.

 

Hopefully in your case TJ it was just an overenthusiastic nurse, and that your OB is not so mainstream as the nurse appears to be.

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