Childhood Influenza-Type Pneumonia Directly Linked to PCV Vaccine Bacterial Cross-infection

[Mirzam]

Children who succumb to seasonal Flu, either via death or serious long-term illness (in particular those tracked since 2009), are subsequently found to have been 8 times more predisposed to a Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus Aureus (MRSA) bacterial co-infection occurring in the lungs. It is also significant that routine prescription anti-virals (chiefly Vancomycin Hydrochloride Capsules & Oseltamivir/Tamiflu), widely distributed globally to ostensibly combat flu-like symptoms, have in fact been the tipping point which has worsened such conditions, hastening Kidney failure, Myocarditis (inflammation of the Heart Muscle) & numerous instances of sudden death.

All vaccinated children in the Western hemisphere are now carriers of what is known as MRSA (Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus/anti-biotic resistant super-bug), due to cross-infection primarily from the routine administering of the Pneumococcal (PCV) Vaccine – in combination with post vaccination anti-biotic & anti-viral drug treatment, an accumulative assault which strips a child of his/her natural anti-biotic resistance whilst infecting them with a host of bacterial serotypes 

http://vaccineresistancemovement.org/?page_id=10934

[WildKingdom]

Originally Posted by Mirzam 

Children who succumb to seasonal Flu, either via death or serious long-term illness (in particular those tracked since 2009), are subsequently found to have been 8 times more predisposed to a Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus Aureus (MRSA) bacterial co-infection occurring in the lungs. It is also significant that routine prescription anti-virals (chiefly Vancomycin Hydrochloride Capsules & Oseltamivir/Tamiflu), widely distributed globally to ostensibly combat flu-like symptoms, have in fact been the tipping point which has worsened such conditions, hastening Kidney failure, Myocarditis (inflammation of the Heart Muscle) & numerous instances of sudden death.

All vaccinated children in the Western hemisphere are now carriers of what is known as MRSA (Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus/anti-biotic resistant super-bug), due to cross-infection primarily from the routine administering of the Pneumococcal (PCV) Vaccine – in combination with post vaccination anti-biotic & anti-viral drug treatment, an accumulative assault which strips a child of his/her natural anti-biotic resistance whilst infecting them with a host of bacterial serotypes 

http://vaccineresistancemovement.org/?page_id=10934

Vancomycin is not an antiviral.  It is an antibiotic.  It targets MRSA.

It is not given routinely for ANYTHING, let alone the flu.  It is only available IV.

All vaccinated children in the Western hemisphere are carriers of MRSA?  Bullshit.  Please give me a link to a study that shows this.  I personally know it's not true- when my son had some surgery done, he had a nasal swab for MRSA (standard at the hospital that he had the surgery at).  It was negative.  He is fully vaccinated, including yearly flu shots.

[Taximom5]

Originally Posted by WildKingdom 

Vancomycin is not an antiviral.  It is an antibiotic.  It targets MRSA.

It is not given routinely for ANYTHING, let alone the flu.  It is only available IV.

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Wildkingdom is correct, in that Vancomycin is not an antiviral--but doctors routinely prescribe antibiotics for infections that turn out to be viral. They've been doing it for years with ear infections, colds, coughs, and sinus infections. Overprescribing antibiotics is the veryreason MRSA is such a problem!

However, it is NOT true that vancomycin is only available IV.
http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/archives/fdaDrugInfo.cfm?archiveid=7608

[WildKingdom]

Originally Posted by Taximom5 

Wildkingdom is correct, in that Vancomycin is not an antiviral--but doctors routinely prescribe antibiotics for infections that turn out to be viral. They've been doing it for years with ear infections, colds, coughs, and sinus infections. Overprescribing antibiotics is the veryreason MRSA is such a problem!
However, it is NOT true that vancomycin is only available IV.
http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/archives/fdaDrugInfo.cfm?archiveid=7608

You're right. Back in Ye Olden Days when I trained, we just gave the IV form orally if we needed to ( for people who failed treatment of c diff with metronidazole.) Looking at the cost of the oral capsules, looks like that's still the cheapest way to do it.

[Taximom5]

Originally Posted by WildKingdom 


You're right. Back in Ye Olden Days when I trained, we just gave the IV form orally if we needed to ( for people who failed treatment of c diff with metronidazole.) Looking at the cost of the oral capsules, looks like that's still the cheapest way to do it.

Wow.  Olden Days is right.

According to Wikipedia:  "An oral form of vancomycin was originally approved by the FDA in 1986 for the treatment ofClostridium difficile induced pseudomembranous colitis. It is not orally absorbed into the blood and remains in the gastrointestinal tract to eradicate C. difficle. This product is currently marketed by ViroPharma in the USA.^[6]"

So you did your training more than 26 years ago? And you gave the IV form orally, even though the FDA did not approve it for that use?

Because Wikipedia also says, "Vancomycin never became the first-line treatment forStaphylococcus aureus for several reasons:

1. It possesses poor oral bioavailability; it must be givenintravenously for most infections.
2. β-Lactamase-resistant semi-synthetic penicillins such asmethicillin (and its successors, nafcillin and cloxacillin) were subsequently developed, which have better activity against non-MRSA staphylococci.
3. Early trials used early impure forms of vancomycin ("Mississippi mud"), which were found to be toxic to the ears and to the kidneys;^[4] these findings led to vancomycin's being relegated to the position of a drug of last resort.^[3]?

 And the citation is: Moellering, RC Jr. (January 2006). "Vancomycin: a 50-year reassessment". Clin Infect Dis 42 Suppl 1: S3–4.

[WildKingdom]

Yup. Meds get used off label all the time.

And no, I never said I gave it orally for staph. Only for c diff. It had no oral bioavailability.

[Mosaic]

I feel like this is directed more toward WildKingdom's training and practice and vancomycin use rather than Mirzam's original post or WK's actual response. Calculating when WK did her training seems a bit like asking her age, and I'd always been taught that's not polite.

Please keep this on track.