Originally Posted by Mirzam
This kind of information is never printed in the mainstream media so your bashing the Bolen Report is typical MO. This is why I have typed out three times a least now Reuters (mainstream media) has said he was the PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATOR. The Danish story from Moderne Tide (of which I gave you the English language link above) certainly implied he was of major part of the study. No one has changed the headlines to discredit the study. Poul Thorsen did that himself by stealing.
I'm not familiar with Modern Tide so have no idea how reliable it is. Not to mention, I don't read the original language, and while Google translate is a wonderful thing, it worlds with multiple meaning or different connotations depending on context often trip it up and change the meaning quite badly.
Also note from the Reuters article that Thorsen moved to Denmark to take this position in 2002. To quote from the link I posted above:
The NEJM article lists its funding sources as:
Supported by grants from the Danish National Research Foundation; the National Vaccine Program Office and National Immunization Program, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; and the National Alliance for Autism Research.
This article was, however, published in November 2002. Given that it takes months, sometimes even a year or more, for a manuscript to go from submission to publication, this work had almost certainly been completed and was in the publication pipeline before Thorsen took over as principal investigator of the CDC grant. The pediatrics paper, which was published after Thorsen went back to Denmark, lists its funding thusly:
The activities of the Danish Epidemiology Science Centre and the National Centre for Register-Based Research are funded by a grant from the Danish National Research Foundation. This study was supported by the Stanley Medical Research Institute. No funding sources were involved in the study design.
That’s right. The Pediatrics thimerosal study was not even funded by the CDC! Even if it were, given that large epidemiological studies take years to carry out, it probably was in the last leg of its analysis when Thorsen showed up anyway. Even worse for the “guilt by association” crowd, all of the fraudulent charges to the grant are alleged to have occurred between 2004 and 2008, as described above–well after the Danish studies were published.
Go take a quick google look through anti-vaccine sites limiting results to before his fraud was revealed. They are usually just referred to as Danish studies with no human name attached, but when one is, it's always the "Madsen study" because she was actually the lead author. Like here on age of autism where it is referred to as "the Madsen Denmark study." The infamous fourteen studies page doesn't even bother mentioning any of the other authors besides Madsen. Then you get to 2010 or so when it was known that he'd stolen money and suddenly Madsen is dropped and it's Thorsen's study, Thorsen's study, Thorsen's study.
The problem with Wakefield was with his bad science. The problem with Thorsen is that he is a crook. Now, his obvious lack of integrity certainly could extend into other areas, which is why anything he touched should be checked and checked again. But just toss out millions of dollars worth of research effort involving countless hours of other people's toil because one person who came in at the end (for these particular papers) turned out to be a bad apple? Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater.