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[dashley111]

Right!? Just start pushing her down every time she stands up

[TalkToMeNow]

Originally Posted by dashley111 

Go KJ! Talking babies are much easier than walking babies anyways. She can communicate with you, but can't tear up the house too bad. Win win. Haha.

I've got a walker, not a talker. Luckily, he's pretty mild mannered... :) VERY few tantrums. Super laid back little guy. He's walking more than half the time now. 

Thanks for the thoughts about my dd and Aspergers. I'll post more later when I'm not slacking at work.

Nicole, I could not find any info about the book you mentioned. Link?

[Autumnshades]

Eli is walking more and more too - it is so cute to see, he looked like he was drunk yesterday though lol - he took off from the one wall and was heading to the coffee table (about 30 steps - he has made the trip a few times) but he somehow started going in a circle   and then sat down.  It was so funny!!!  I couldn't help but laugh.  He is definitely getting there walking wise.  He follows me around the apartment with his little wooden animals so cute.  He is also sleeping a bit better.  Generally wakes up at 1:30am/2am and then sleeps till 7/8.  I am thankful because I was feeling so worn out with his bad sleeping.

He has been super clingy/whiny with lots of crying - his gums are so swollen - he seems to be working on the canine teeth.  Poor fellow... 

I had a question.  What are your thoughts on baby cereal?  I didn't introduce wheat until Eli turned 1, and so far there doesn't seem to be a problem with it... but I don't know if baby cereals are good/bad/needed etc.  my mil keeps recommending that we try them.  It was hard getting her to back off mentioning them when Eli was smaller ... we just kept insisting he wasn't getting wheat/gains till he was older.

On a side note - my hubby and I are on a diet and so far so good - down 15lbs each in 2 weeks.  It is great.  Lots of fresh veggies/meats/fruits.  No processed foods/sugars (hard habit to kick!).  I feel so much better.  This week we start reintroducing some whole grains and starches... see how it goes. Its been a stretch though on our single income :(  the only light point was that my aunt clued me in on a program run in my city called The Good Food box - they supply fresh fruits/veggies at a really good price because they believe that it is a basic human right to have access to fresh produce at a decent rate - most of it is organic, transitional organic and locally grown (depending on season).  It is accessible to anyone because they also believe it is demeaning to prove that you need food.  It is a great program.  We ordered a big veggie box for $18 and a fruit box for $15.  And they deliver for $3, it would cost me more and be a pain, to take the bus to pick it up.  Love it!!!!

[Abraisme]

Baby cereal is devoid of nutrition and probably more harmful than good.  I recommend whole foods and whatever you're eating at this point (as long as it's healthy!).  Coralie just eats a scoop of what we eat..

Eggs and banana for breakfast, soft meats and veggies from soup for lunch, and maybe almond bread and veggies for dinner.  She also eats a lot of yogurt (plain and homemade), fruit smoothies, fruit (fresh and dried) and cheese.  

[Jaimee]

Originally Posted by Abraisme 

Baby cereal is devoid of nutrition and probably more harmful than good. 

  Baby food in general is pretty pointless.  Babies can eat whole foods and it is better for them nutritionally, for safety reasons, and for self sufficiency skills.  We feed Avery almost everything that we eat and he mostly self feeds.  He really only needs assistance with things like yogurt, cottage cheese, fruit sauces, soups, etc.

[CDsMom1031]

Originally Posted by TalkToMeNow 

Originally Posted by dashley111 

Go KJ! Talking babies are much easier than walking babies anyways. She can communicate with you, but can't tear up the house too bad. Win win. Haha.

I've got a walker, not a talker. Luckily, he's pretty mild mannered... VERY few tantrums. Super laid back little guy. He's walking more than half the time now. 


Thanks for the thoughts about my dd and Aspergers. I'll post more later when I'm not slacking at work.

Nicole, I could not find any info about the book you mentioned. Link?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0743296443/ref=redir_mdp_mobile

Wrong title. My bad.

[Autumnshades]

That is what I was thinking (regarding babyfood/cereal) - I remember reading up about it before he was born - but it has been so long.  He generally gets what we have, and we have been eating super healthy so that is good :):)  He is super good at feeding himself and also just needs help with yogurt etc - he is wanting to be more independent with the yogurt so the other night while I was making dinner I just let him at it lol he was covered with yogurt, he did manage to get a few spoonfuls in his mouth though.  He loves eggs and gobbles them down.  He is finally able to tolerate bananas... took his tummy a while to be okay with it.  I just stopped giving them to him altogether until now.  We had some extra ones and he has one for breakfast, along with his eggs. He loves to eat this little fellow :):)

[seraf]

Sonja, I think the baby rice cereal is only for the texture, so totally unnecessary at this age unless you need to thicken soup. The other baby foods aren't necessary. Shay likes to drink the fruit as a smoothie.

Shay is more of a walker than a talker, too. He is rarely intelligible but constantly on the move. This morning, though, he sat up in bed and said, "Pee." I asked if he said pee and he said,"Yeah." So I took him to the toilet and he peed. Yeah seems to be the word of the day.

[LunaLady]

I have a question - are all of you brushing teeth? Rhyko still has just the 8 front teeth, but more are bursting through as we speak (like all four canines plus all four first molars), so I'm not terribly worried about it. At this point we're just doing teeth brushing more for the habit than anything else, but I think once he's got molars teeth brushing should be more important? Rhyko doesn't eat any sugar, grains or dairy (other than butter) so he doesn't really have anything 'teeth harming' things in his diet... but I just am curious what everyone else is doing. And what about tooth paste? I've just been dabbing his brush with our tooth paste, but again I don't know if that's even really necessary? Just wanted some input. 

[CDsMom1031]

Originally Posted by LunaLady 

I have a question - are all of you brushing teeth? Rhyko still has just the 8 front teeth, but more are bursting through as we speak (like all four canines plus all four first molars), so I'm not terribly worried about it. At this point we're just doing teeth brushing more for the habit than anything else, but I think once he's got molars teeth brushing should be more important? Rhyko doesn't eat any sugar, grains or dairy (other than butter) so he doesn't really have anything 'teeth harming' things in his diet... but I just am curious what everyone else is doing. And what about tooth paste? I've just been dabbing his brush with our tooth paste, but again I don't know if that's even really necessary? Just wanted some input. 

I do. Conner has 3 of his molars plus the 8 up front. I do it after his bath while I'm dressing him. It usually just ends up being him chewing on the toothbrush, but that's gotta be better than nothing, right? =) And the dentist said that we can just use water for now instead of toothpaste.

[seraf]

We use water. He really likes toothpaste, tho.  The front teeth are more likely to rot than the molars at this age.  Among the various reasons given to me by dentists, too much sugar, night nursing, eating too frequently (because the bacteria on the teeth release acid whenever they're fed anything, not just sugar, for about 20 minutes after each meal/snack), acidic foods, too sticky of foods (raisins are worse than chocolate as far as one dentist is concerned), colonization by more aggressive bacteria and genetic strength of the enamel.  I've seen way too many dentists. Osha had his first 6 fillings at 13 months.

[dashley111]

We brush teeth.  I don't remember every day but I do most days. We just use water. B has her 4 front top teeth and her 2 top molars (6 top teeth), and 2 on the bottom.  Its hilarious looking.  She does eat some foods that are probably not best for her teeth...like the organic, naturally sweetened, gluten free fruit loops equivalent she had for breakfast with her siblings   I tried to cut out night nursing, but it still happens on occasion.

We have only had one kid cavity and it was my son who had his first cavity at 9.  Their dentists said its rare these days, but probably because I don't give my kids juice, soda, and candy.  They have them so rarely there is no way it could hurt their teeth.  My sons cavity came from a summer he spent with his bio-Dad- eating crap and not brushing his teeth a single time.

[birdhappy85]

It's interesting to me how cavity-prone some people are compared to others who may not even have the best dental hygiene. I've only had one cavity my entire life at the age of 21, and I was hardly religious about brushing and flossing while growing up... In fact, I rarely brushed before bed. I brushed in the morning, which I know isn't optimal.  Everyone else in my family took better care of their teeth than me but had numerous cavities. I've always wondered about that. I wasn't a candy eater except for chocolate, so I'm sure that helped, but other than that...? I had a poor diet and ate junk. My teeth were pristine and healthy. So curious!

[LunaLady]

Thanks for the input. Sounds like we are all doing about the same thing. I let R 'brush' his own teeth while I brush mine, and then I put him on my lap and try my best to get behind his front teeth and such.

We are still night nursing... I thought that was pretty common at this age? R nurses to sleep (about 45 minutes of nursing or more) and then nurses back to sleep each time we get up for a potty break (about 2 times a night, nurses for about 3-4 minutes and then rolls away back to sleep). That's likely not enough night nursing to harm his teeth, surely? 

[Abraisme]

Coralie chews on a toothbrush, we aren't consistent at all.  She also night nurses, which I'm not worried about.  I just can't believe that breastmilk would cause cavities.  I do think there is some genetic component to healthy teeth, along with diet.  My kids all eat super healthy and my oldest has still have a couple cavities.  Our diet is even better now, so we'll see with Coralie.

[Autumnshades]

It is interesting - I took care of my teeth really well my entire life and I have so many cavities and sooooo many trips to the dentist - I still have a few cavities that need filling but we don't have a dental plan and can't afford to go.  My hubby brushes his teeth once a day (in the morning) and hardly flosses and he has had 1 cavity in his entire life *sigh* so not fair!!!

[dashley111]

I smoked and drank about 6 diet sodas a day as a teenager and in my earlier adult years.  I have 6 crowns, and have had every tooth in my mouth worked on as an adult.  Luckily my teeth still have a healthy appearance, so nobody can tell.   I do NOT want that for my children.  I am a tooth brushing nazi.

I think the concern with night nursing is when they latch on and just kind of hang there and comfort nurse all night.  I personally believe that there is a link to night nursing and cavities, only from my own observations of the women in my local AP group who extended nurse and nurse at night and have kids who need tons of dental work done at the age of 3.  Its a to each your own kind of thing. There is science both ways. Our ped is as crunchy as they come and is a huge advocate of night weaning also. 

[seraf]

I'm a believer in the aggressive bacteria theory. I nannied for a kid with baby bottle mouth, then my teeth were destroyed within 2 years, then my kids got it. Sara has perfect teeth and has never had a cavity despite a huge soda habit. I hope they boys are colonized with her bacteria instead of mine.

I have a friend who has told me repeatedly about an experiment where baby teeth were soaked in breast milk, juice and a mix of breast milk and juice. The teeth in just milk didn't rot, the teeth in the mix rotted the fastest. So she always said the point of brushing a baby/toddler's teeth before bed was to remove food residue so the milk didn't do damage at night.

Ash, I think Osha got his first cavity at 8 months. I highly doubt night weaning when his first teeth came in at 4 months would have made much difference. He wasn't a big night nurser but the dentists loved to blame nursing. I've known dozens of kids who nursed more often day and night but never had a cavity.

[CDsMom1031]

I'm on the team of people that don't take as good of care as their teeth as they should with no issues. I usually brush once a day, sometimes twice (If I get a nap), I never floss, and I've had one cavity.

[Jaimee]

We are pretty lax... I should be brushing Avery's teeth or at least letting him chew on the banana toothbrush.  We don't bother with toothpaste until more teeth come in... for us that's been closer to 18 months.  All my kids have night nursed up to 16-18 months.   We took Avalon to the dentist when she was 3 and her teeth were great and still are.  Austin will go soon.  So much depends on genetics and just a basic cleaning routine.  One dentist we went to said he used to do a lot of work on a Native American reservation and he said despite horrible oral hygiene habits, their teeth were often great, whereas his other patients he would often see the opposite.  My dh and I both have had 1-2 cavaties each, so I think our teeth genes must be pretty good.  The only cavaties I have had were from my pregnancies when I often ate in the middle of the night and didn't brush afterward.