Costs excluding the vaccine ... What else is there? The needle, I suppose. Alcohol to swipe the site, and the cotton to swipe with. All that costs $8? Not sure if I believe that.
Did you read the link I posted?
Why should staff time not count?
It's not relevant. The claim is that "big pharma" makes squadzillions out of immunisation, and that simply isnt true. The doctors here make nothing out of immunisation by the way. It's free. Even if the vaccine needs to be purchased (such as whooping cough for adults) the doctor / nurse administers it for free.
It's important for the anti vaccinationists to find fault in the process, but sometimes fault simply doesn't exists.
Who said this?
So...no one. Got it.
I find alluding to the idea that non-vaxxers are conspiracy theorists when no one has said anything conspiracy like on this thread somewhat smear campaign-y.
I am not sure the amount of profit from vaccines is relevant.
Correct me if I am wrong (just taking a stab here as I think we could go in circles):
You believe the profits from vaccines are sufficiently little that the pharmaceutical companies would not risk anything shady over vaccines, correct?
I believe many corporations (not all) place profits before people. I don't think it matters whether they make 1 million in profits or 50 billion - if their code of ethics is "buyer beware" or profits first, that is something that is going to be systemic. It is not like they are going to be unethical in actions over product A but perfectly ethical regarding product B. As such I believe no corporations should sit on government health and safety advisory committees. I think it is a conflict of interest.
I see two issues with your position as I see it:
1. Are natural health companies off the hook and devoid of conflict of interest if they do not make lots (however "lots" is define) of money?
2. If vaccines do start making big money, are they now suspicious because they make big money? That is the flip of the argument : if a company would not bother doing anything unethical over
small amounts of money, you are arguing it I more possible over big amounts of money.
OT: I am not sure why you brought up all roads leading to conspiracy theories and autism in your own thread. The cynical part of me thinks it is simply any excuse to re-inforce stereotypes of those who hold a position you do not agree with; the more charitable part of me thinks you have some unresolved issues around all road leading to autism or what you see as conspiracy theories abounding. If the latter, I would start a separate thread. You will get some bites (nothing like an holiday 8*tch-fest ). Or not - derail your own thread.
Bolding mine. Sure they do - even it is not directly tied to vaccine profit. I am not saying they or anyone else is involved in a cover-up*, but...I think pretty much everyone in the vaccine industry would worry about public perception of credibility if vaccines are found to do more harm than good. With big pharm (as that is the topic) they might worry about people losing faith in other products.
*In general, and fwiw, I do not think there is a large scale cover-up. I suspect most people in the vaccine industry genuinely believe in vaccines. I think they are looking at public health and I am looking at individual health, and there in lies the difference. I do think there is some manipulating of data, conflict of interest, loading the dice, etc from the vaccine industry (there is too much for my comfort) .....but I am not so sure I would go so far as to call it a cover-up.