Evidence of govenrment cover-up re: vaccines and autism - Page 9

[chickabiddy]

Originally Posted by Taximom5 

Which state is that? I don't know of any state that does not require the CDC pediatric schedule.

North Carolina.   But I know of no state (edit:  now I know of ONE state) that requires vaxes or exemptions for flu for school.

[Honey693]

Originally Posted by Taximom5 

Which state is that? I don't know of any state that does not require the CDC pediatric schedule.

I'm in Iowa and I have never had an issue.  My oldest is in preschool and I just filled her card out with she's had.  Flu shot is not on the required or an exemption is list either.

[Honey693]

Originally Posted by Taximom5 


Actually, it is. It's on the CDC pediatric vaccination schedule, and more and more pediatricians are "firing" children from their practices if they are not fully caught up with ALL vaccines. Parents, particularly those in health care fields, are being fired if THEY don't get a flu shot--even if they are pregnant. Infants and toddlers are almost always barred from daycare unless they have had ALL the vaccines on the CDC schedule. States without religious or philosophical exemptions prohibit children who have not had ALL recommended shots from attending school.
Doctors who actually ask what you want, and agree to withhold vaccines just because you don't want them? No required shots? Please tell us what state you live in that makes it so easy to skip shots, or any others you know of, because there are many of us who would like to move there!

Where are you getting your stats that infants and toddlers without all required shots are being barred from daycare?  I have never heard or seen this in my personal experience so I'm wondering if you have numbers to back it up.  What states don't have religious or philosophical exemptions?  I thought there were only 2.

I have one of these doctors.  I found one who listens to my concerns and talks to me like I'm an intelligent adult.  There's 5 doctors at the practice like that and I have friends who go to other practices and say the same.  Although I don't go in thinking doctors are evil monsters out to inject my kids with poison so that probably helps.

[Rrrrrachel]

We've been to two offices and we were always asked IF we would be vaccinating and what vaccines we'd like to do that day. My doctor even talked me into delaying a vaccine. We did do flu shots all around this year, but daycare didn't require it or any documentation.

[Chicharronita]

Originally Posted by kathymuggle 

It is great that states (I looked it up) do not require flu vaccine for school entry.

It does not change the fact that there is some thimerosal in vaccines given to children.

It is scuzzy for the vaccine industry to imply thimerosal has been taken out of vaccines given to children, when that is untrue.

I often see pro-vax people saying this in the comments section of vaccine articles. Then if someone points out that they are still in some vaccines, they change their tune and say well it's not harmful anyway. 

Quote:

I also suspect it decreases the public trust in officials when they are led to believe one thing, when another turns out to be true.

Yes, although I think the justifiable distrust has only started ramping up lately due to the Internet, despite all the past problems with vaccines (like SV40 contamination). 

[Chicharronita]

Originally Posted by Taximom5 

Actually, it is. It's on the CDC pediatric vaccination schedule, and more and more pediatricians are "firing" children from their practices if they are not fully caught up with ALL vaccines. Parents, particularly those in health care fields, are being fired if THEY don't get a flu shot--even if they are pregnant.

It's time to fire back. Vote with your feet and dollars! Don't give your time and money to doctors like this. They'll change their tune once their pocketbooks are affected. 
 

[chickabiddy]

Believe it or not, I agree.  If you and your doctor don't agree on vaccines, find a different doctor.  Both you and your doctor have the right to terminate a professional relationship.

[dontVaccinateMe]

dont vaccinate!!!!!

alternative medicine can cure all disease (herbs, yoga, spiritual, urine therapy, bowen, accapuncture)

[WildKingdom]

Originally Posted by dontVaccinateMe 

dont vaccinate!!!!!



alternative medicine can cure all disease (herbs, yoga, spiritual, urine therapy, bowen, accapuncture)

Can alternative medicine cure a lack of punctuation and capitalization???? Enquiring minds want to know.

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by dontVaccinateMe 

dont vaccinate!!!!!

alternative medicine can cure all disease (herbs, yoga, spiritual, urine therapy, bowen, accapuncture)

Can you stop posting the same thing on all threads...its really annoying!

[Imakcerka]

Originally Posted by Marnica 

Can you stop posting the same thing on all threads...its really annoying!

Is that what a paid shill would do?  Sorry I asked for clarification before and it was never granted...

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by Imakcerka 

Is that what a paid shill would do?  Sorry I asked for clarification before and it was never granted...

No this doesn't seem like a shill to me. But then again I could be wrong

[Imakcerka]

And see that's why I need clarification.  I would almost assume that out of no where comments like "that" one would fit the bill.  But then again I'm not sure. 

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by Imakcerka 

And see that's why I need clarification.  I would almost assume that out of no where comments like "that" one would fit the bill.  But then again I'm not sure. 

Here what I think and again i could be way off. This above poster seems more like a troll than a shill. Trolls like to stir up things and get people all worked up. They are regular folks and are not paid by anyone. Shills are paid pharma folks. They are usually a bit more organized and less ........hmmm...searching for the right adjective! anyway my 2 cents :)

[Chicharronita]

Originally Posted by chickabiddy 

Believe it or not, I agree.  If you and your doctor don't agree on vaccines, find a different doctor.  Both you and your doctor have the right to terminate a professional relationship.

People have the right to, but I think some get intimidated when they hear things like "ZOMG doctors are firing patients who don't vaccinate!!!" in the mainstream media.

I feel sorry for doctors. Of course they want to fire people who don't accept one of the few things they can "do" for "health."

Vaccines are one of the main things in their bag of tricks! Reject that, and what else can they give you? Precious little. 

That may be the other reason why it's trumpeted as if it's a big deal to be fired.

What if people realize it's a blessing? There goes all the well-baby visits at how ever many dollars a pop every month. 

[pers]

Originally Posted by Chicharronita 

People have the right to, but I think some get intimidated when they hear things like "ZOMG doctors are firing patients who don't vaccinate!!!" in the mainstream media.

I feel sorry for doctors. Of course they want to fire people who don't accept one of the few things they can "do" for "health."

Vaccines are one of the main things in their bag of tricks! Reject that, and what else can they give you? Precious little. 

That may be the other reason why it's trumpeted as if it's a big deal to be fired.

What if people realize it's a blessing? There goes all the well-baby visits at how ever many dollars a pop every month. 

Doctors here don't give vaccines (I wish they did!), and yet, they are doing just fine.  

[Dakotacakes]

Not having a relationship with a doctor can be a very big deal when you need one . That is why I go to well baby visits. I want a relationship so I am not at the complete mercy of a total stranger during a period of acute illness. I have been through that once it is not pleasant. Firing patients etc. isn't a big deal in many areas but when you live in a rural area it can be a very big deal. That is why I am uncomfortable with doctors refusing patients.

[Adaline'sMama]

Originally Posted by Chicharronita 

I feel sorry for doctors. Of course they want to fire people who don't accept one of the few things they can "do" for "health."

Vaccines are one of the main things in their bag of tricks! Reject that, and what else can they give you? Precious little. 

What?

My doctor has given us very few vaccines, and yet I still find her profession worthy.

My OB has never given me a vaccine and neither has our family doctor. Why is health in quotations? Do you think doctors have a different idea of health than most people? These comments are precisely why I feel like so many people who are researching vax wind up thinking that anti/delayed vax people are cooky. 

Personally, I wouldnt take my kid for well baby visits if I DID vax. I take them because we dont vax (babies) , and I want to have a professional look and make sure that they aren't developing any problems. Because, believe it or not, even though Im really good at the google, I didnt go to school to study the human body and how it operates for 8-15 years and I might miss something that they would notice. 

[Chicharronita]

Originally Posted by Adaline'sMama 

My OB has never given me a vaccine and neither has our family doctor. Why is health in quotations? Do you think doctors have a different idea of health than most people? 

Yes. I don't know how any of them can live with themselves when virtually nothing they do helps people with myriad chronic health problems besides giving some kind of drug with "side" effects that can be just as bad as the problem.

These comments are precisely why I feel like so many people who are researching vax wind up thinking that anti/delayed vax people are cooky. 

Cooky? Mmmm sounds tasty. 

[erigeron]

Maybe somebody can start another thread about whether mainstream medicine is helpful or not. Can we get back on topic?