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Birth Experiences & Preparing for the Next Birth

post #1 of 33
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Now that I am close to the third tri. and have some extra time, I have started thinking about birth. My first birth was like 12 hours active to baby in arms, but I think it took so long because I was in a hospital, uncomfortable, with my MOTHER who stresses me out, MIL and SIL I had not invited, nurses everywhere, and I had an epidural. UGH!! My last birth was fast, a little under 3.5 hours start to finish, and was the only type of birth I had NOT prepared for. It was a delicious birth, empowering, quiet, and satisfying. It's just that the contractions were super intense and on top of each other almost from the beginning.

 

This time, I am gearing up to do my homework in case I don't make it to the birth center in time. I know nothing about homebirths and can't afford to pay someone to attend a planned HB, so I have to plan for a BC birth (like last time) or an unassisted homebirth and I am a bit nervous. I don't know what the best books are to read. I am going to get Emergency Childbirth because it was recommended on some site I was looking at. Anyway, I am really interested in hearing about your birth experiences and how that will help you prepare this time.

 

Anyone else have a fast labor? Have you had more than one? I am in the mood to soak in birth stories ATM, so indulge me!

post #2 of 33

Nice idea! Like you, I've been thinking about my babygirl's birth and also reading alot of birth stories lately. Specifically, UC stories and research.

I am contemplating a possible UC as well. I have the Emergency Childbirth PDF and have a couple of used books coming from Amazon.

 

Here's DD's birth story

http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1211267/my-baby-girls-epic-homebirth-story

 

I've been thinking about how that birth went for the past couple of months in anticipation of how this one will unfold.

Even though I tried to set my birth up with having the right support around and no "pressure". I still wound up feeling pressured and sometimes annoyed. I think that had a lot to do with why her birth was so long.

 

This time around, UC or not, we are not having many people there. Me and DH, DD and maybe MIL in case DD needs her. I cannot have anyone around me for birth that does not absolutely beleive in my body or anyone that has the nervous nellies. I know from my 1st birth that the smallest doubt from others during birth, effects me. I also probably won't call anyone until after the baby is here or call people, then shut my phone off. Hearing people's phone calls annoyed the daylights out of me 1st time around.

 

Another factor is knowing how I felt during labor and knowing how i felt when it was indeed time for DD to come. I think this time, I can relax more before crowning time.

post #3 of 33

I have no idea what to expect from this birth.  I hope it involves less blood spurting out of various orifices.  I hope it takes less than the 36 hours of labour (24 active) that my last one did.  At the very least, I KNOW that the trip to the hospital won't be complicated by a Santa Claus parade.

 

There will be MORE people present at this one - at least I hope - last time my doula had to bail due to exhaustion and it was just me, DH, the midwife and a student midwife (who was actually totally awesome).  This time I hope my doula can last to the end, and that my DD will be there too.

 

And I'm *planning* for the hospital this time, what with our house being just unsuitable for birthing.   And I'm okay with that, which is a huge stress reduction rather than the "OMG they're going to do all sorts of horrible things" feeling I had going to the hospital last time after I'd planned a homebirth.

 

And, if my baby is posterior again and labour is as hellish as it was last time, if my (very much more experienced) doula can't coach me into flipping the little bugger around, I am going to take that epidural and be happy that it's there and I'm not going to wait 18 hours to do it, either.

 

I know it's probably weird to see this kind of post on MDC, but that's my reality.  At least I know how to overcome the potential breastfeeding-related complication from an epidural or blood loss or pretty much anything else this time around.

 

I figure my chances of a c-section are pretty low, unless something goes really terribly wrong.  Midwives here have a below 10% c-section rate and I know that if she thinks it's necessary, it's necessary, and while I don't relish the thought of recovery from that, it will be what it will be and I will be grateful that child #1 is as old and self-sufficient as she is.

 

Basically, I'm trying to go into birth this time as realistic and flexible as possible.  Last time I was idealistic and tense and terrified of the medical establishment messing me up (partly, it must be said, because of things I'd read here on MDC...)  Now I know more about how our particular medical establishment works and I'm much more comfortable navigating it and trusting people to do what's right, but trusting my own judgement and knowledge and ability to self-advocate if things start to go astray.

post #4 of 33

Spughy--

 

It is very possible to have a peaceful hospital birth!!  You have a midwife and a doula-- that is a great start!  My last birth was in hospital and I felt very protected and peaceful the whole time I was there.  I didn't arrive until I was 9.5 cm (I labored at home 12 hours) so that helped... but knowing how to advocate for yourself and to surround yourself with very supportive people goes a LOOOOOONG way in having a happy hospital birth.  :)   My midwife kept the lights low and shooed non-pertinent medical people out of the room.  I loved that.  I felt very protected by her from typical hospital-y things.  

 

I had a very bad first birth and had to remind myself over and over that the second baby was a new baby and a new birth entirely separate from the first one.  The difference between my induction/c-section and my natural second labor was like night and day.  

 

I can't wait to read about your new baby's birth and how satisfying it will be for you!  

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I am strangely fearful of this birth.

 

My first birth was wonderful, other than my son being posterior. I got to the hospital at 2cm and had planned and prepared to use hypno-birthing. I started crying after they checked me and the staff left me alone for the next two hours because I had a doula and was only 2cm when I got there. Well, those 2 hours without interuptions did the trick. Other than the staff's inability to give me an IV (The IV is reason #1 for a home birth), and having it in my hand which meant I couldn't use my arm to push myself up. They came to check me after 2 hours and I was complete. It took 2 hours of pushing, and I really only think 1 hour of that was active pushing. I'm very happy that my doctor didn't rush me when the pushing took that long. My water actually broke during the pushing stage. I was very happy with this birth.

 

My second labor was very different. Because it went so fast the first time, my doctor opted to be on hand the entire time. I really love my doctor's style, but when a doctor is sitting around the hospital waiting on a laboring woman, I think he needs to find something to do. So, he checked me, they poked me, they prodded me, they broke my water, they pushed for internal monitoring, I couldn't labor in the tub (after they broke my water). Then baby had her hand stuck up near her face with the cord around it (found that out during the LONG pushing stage). I never had a moment to myself and that REALLY made it hard to focus and use my hypno-birthing techniques. Not to mention, the woman I worked with prior to this birth was a complete and utter quack (That's a story for another time). So, by the time I was at 9.5 cm for 4 (or more?) hours, I could tell my doctor was thinking surgery and when he asked about an epidural, I caved because I wanted to be awake when baby was born. Well, apparently the epidural position was what I needed to get baby to put enough pressure and I went right to 10cm. Then pushed for about 45 mins. The epidural did not kick in until right near the end because I remember suddenly not being able to direct my own pushing (VERY ANNOYING). Then I was stuck unable to walk until they took it out. I think what really made this experience so hard was the lack of alone time and the constant prodding. But, I went into the 2nd labor not scared and this one I am scared of a repeat.

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There will be MORE people present at this one - at least I hope - last time my doula had to bail due to exhaustion and it was just me, DH, the midwife and a student midwife (who was actually totally awesome).  This time I hope my doula can last to the end, and that my DD will be there too.

 

 

How long was your doula with you?

Were you upset with her that she left?

Did she not have a backup?

post #7 of 33
Cocoa- what a tremendously moving birth story. I very much enjoyed reading it. I definitely teared up.
Spughy- I think your expectations sound very wise. My only birth experience so far was in a hospital and it was quite beautiful (despite some interventions I would not have chosen myself, but whatever!). I had my tribe gathered around me and my midwife and the nurses all respected my request for quiet support. I think you will have a wonderful birth, doula present! smile.gif
Chapsie- I watched your video, thank you so much for sharing. What an inspiration, indeed!
Writermama- I have nothing very helpful to contribute, we are planning our first midwife attended homebirth. One thing that comes to mind for me is that my midwife told me first babies are slow, second babies are fast, third are unpredictable. Haha, like I said, not helpful!
Melany- I hope you can come to a good place and ease some of your fears before the birth. I can't stop thinking that there will be meconium present in my amniotic fluid, which might mean that my midwives would transfer me to the hospital. I can relate to feeling scared and I hope you feel more confident soon!
post #8 of 33

My first birth was an induction (at 41+6) cascade of interventions leading to a c-section. He was posterior - completely OP - with a nucal cord. Had I had a doula or a better nurse, I likely could have avoided the c-section all together. However, we had a great start breastfeeding and by recovery was really easy.

 

My second birth was a planned and successful hospital VBAC. due the statutes where I am, no midwife I'd actually trust will attend an HBAC - and I really do believe (especially in cases like VBAC) that an expert set of eyes and hands is a very valuable thing to have - so the hospital it was. I went to 41+6 AGAIN, and with the possibility of a RCS hanging over me, I self induced with a breastpump at that point. The OB wasn't willing to induce at all, said my cervix, etc was unfavorable, my fluid levels were going down and BP was going up . . but he was at least considerate enough to allow me more time to go on my own rather then trying to send me straight to the OR. While on the breastpump, my water broke, and it was 10 hours from ROM to birth. MUCH faster than I, or anyone else, had anticipated. I had a great doula and an awesome nurse, and really hope to have both again. (the doula is a guarantee, the nurse not as much, but we will request her). The major downside to my VBAC was a wicked 4th degree tear. Recovery from that SUCKED.  That's the main thing I want to avoid this time, and I think if I can relax and take the pushing stage a bit slower, that will help a great deal. With my first VBAC, everyone was so suprised I was already pushing, I think it just kicked them into stressful overdrive, and I didn't know how to stop that, or that I should.

 

As for prep . . . I'm going to the chiro still, alignment is a key thing. I still have my doula -she's a good friend now - And trying to stay active and strong.

 

Epidural - I didn't get one last time, I hadn't planned on it, but I asked for it during transition (but no one knew I WAS in transition) and didn't have time for it. If my labor is prolonged, I have no shame in asking for it - my nurse explained I can request a "light" epidural to take the edge off but not be completely numb, and it can be cut off completely during the pushing stage so I can push with my own direction. Though, considering my last labor was 10 hours, I expect this one to be shorter.

post #9 of 33
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How long was your doula with you?

Were you upset with her that she left?

Did she not have a backup?

 

My doula was with me for a looong time - she left at about 9 pm I think and I'd called her at 4 am that morning.  I wasn't upset when she left - I was drifting off to sleep with an epidural.  She had a 3-year-old daughter and I felt bad that I'd kept her for so long.  And even if she'd had a backup, I doubt I would have called the backup - at that point I had a good nurse, the midwife, and the student midwife with whom DH and I both bonded almost instantly, so she was kind of like an uber-doula.  And honestly, at that point, I don't think there was much any doula could have done.  Once you've got an epidural in the baby sort of either comes out or it doesn't - you can't change positions much or do much on your own.  DH had the hand-holding and whatnot down, and the midwife and student midwife did a fantastic job of coaching me to get the baby out as quickly as she needed to come (which was fast - her heart rate was dropping and she was showing signs of stress by that point.)  So I'm not altogether unhappy about my doula experience, but I learned from it that I need a VERY experienced doula who will push me around in the early stages of labour, not someone who will simply bring comfort and tea.  Our previous doula was much better for DH than for me.  This time he can make his own tea and I want my doula getting me up the staircase in weird positions if that's what's going to make the baby come out easier.  Or, telling me to suck it up princess and take the epidural.  The doula I've got for this birth is a truly magnificent woman who has been to hundreds of births, is a childbirth and breastfeeding educator, runs a crunchy baby store and drop-in baby groups that I went to when DD was a baby.  She did a lot of the training for my postpartum doula classes.  I've known her for 7 years and I trust her completely.  In fact, my midwife last time suggested she would be a good doula for me, but unfortunately she wasn't in town when DD was born, so we went with someone really nice with whom we both got along well.  That was ok, but not super-helpful.  I need more of a pushy drill-sergeant kind of doula - and the one I've got certainly has the authority to pull that off.  (not that she's not a really nice, comforting person... but that's not the aspect of her that I'm hiring)

post #10 of 33

This is a biggie for me as I realise I definitly have some residual fear from my first birth.  It was fast and furious and I never really got any endorphins going.  I'm scared that this time we won't have time to get MIL here to take care of DD, won't make it to the birth center, or the midwife won't make it to our house on time.

 

As this pregnancy is going along, I am beginning to have (ok, minor) anxiety attacks where I think I can't do this again!  Luckily, so far, I've been able to manage them and calm myself down. 

 

All these crazy scenarios I"m making up in my mind, I know!  Yoga is helping alot, but I'm beginning to consider some sort of "counselling" or something to help me get over my anxieties.  I'm just not really sure where to turn.
 

post #11 of 33
My first was born after 4.5 hours in labor. We barely made it to the birth center! I used Hypnobabies (which was such a huge help to remove anxiety and doubts) and had used regular yoga practice and reflexology sessions to prepare as well. We didnt tell anyone but my midwife and my doula when I went into labor. I wanted to be left alone in the beginning, so I didnt even wake DH up for over an hour. Everyone else was informed after she was born, which was great because there was no pressure or checking in.

I should probably also be planning for the possibility of an accidental UC this time, since someone will have to come stay with DD before we can leave for the birth center. However, my midwife is very reassuring about it. She says babies who come out on their own and quickly didn't need help anyway, and that we can just come in right after. I think DH is more nervous than I am. Anyway, I don't have any good resources to prepare because I haven't thought about that yet. I'm interested to see what everyone else has to share!
post #12 of 33

My first birth was a hospital birth. 18 hours in labor, no pain meds, but plenty of piton (ugh). Crappy labor & delivery nurse and a horrible on-call doctor. The doctor was very discouraging, kept trying to push an epi, gave me an episiotomy which ended in a 4th degree tear...after my birth my regular OB took her off of his list of on-call doctors.


My first birth is still a major mental roadblock for me. Not being able to birth in a birthing center (and not being able to afford a homebirth) has made things really hard. I am terrified of getting pushed into a c-section. However, my first birth has prepared me to take things into my own hands. I will have as much control over my hospital birth as possible (last time I basically put the decisions into the hospital staff's hands). We are going to have one of our midwives as our doula, and that is very comforting. 
I really want to labor at home as long as possible. I'm convinced that I'm going to need to go to the hospital in the middle of traffic and have these kids in the car. So I am going to start preparing for a UC. At the very least I will be a lot more informed about birth thumb.gif

post #13 of 33

My first birth I did yoga and hypnobabies ahead of time. I found hypnobabies annoying when I was actually in labor (to listen to), but I do think it helped me relax between contractions and stay calm.

 

I started having contractions at 11pm at night and hung out at home for quite a while semi trying to sleep a little bit and rest and then playing bejeweled (why? I don't know) between contractions (until the contractions got pretty close, then I threw up, then we decided to head to the hospital around 4 am or so). My doula met us at the hospital, and it was actually a pretty good experience for me, I hung out on a ball most of the time, we kept the lights low, then I got in the tub at one point when the contractions were getting stronger. The tub was great for me, lessening the pain and I think it sped along the process. Didn't get an epidural, did let the doctor break the water, pushed for 45 minutes, everything seemed to work out okay, DD was born at 9 in the morning or so. I didn't like it when the nurses pushed on my abdomen after the birth to expel clots or whatever, yowch. I just mention that because I wasn't really expecting it and they didn't really warn me much.

 

Having a doula was great to me, just to have the support and have someone who has seen so many births and knew what to expect, knew when to tell me to try the tub, knew what it would feel like when I started getting the urge to push, etc. The nurses were in and out, I don't really see how I could stay calm without that extra help...

 

This time around, I'm going for the same set up. Hopefully things will move along a little faster and easier this time, but overall I'd be happy with a similar experience.

post #14 of 33

writermama - this link was posted on a FB page that I follow. It's a free Emergency Childbirth manual. I haven't looked through it yet, but thought you'd might like it: http://www.rixafreeze.com/pdf/gregorywhite.pdf

 

AFM - I had DS at a stand alone birth center. I had a fairly long labor of 27 hours, although I now know that it was pretty typical for a first time mom. We did Bradley, I was actually teaching yoga throughout that entire pregnancy and came into it in pretty decent shape. I think my physical fitness level helped be to be able to get through the long and intense labor that I had with him without interventions. He was really low in my pelvis, and now I'm pretty sure that he was also asynclitic, which was probably why I felt so much pressure even between contractions. I also had a nasty tear the included an artery, so I ended up being transferred to the hospital after DS was born in order to repair it. Overall it was a great birth experience, but I'm hoping that this one goes a little smoother.

 

We're planning a homebirth for this one. DH & I are going to do a Hypnobirthing class this time -- mainly because a friend of mine is teaching it and is giving us a great discount. I also think it sounds interesting. We have a midwife attending, and ironically are still deciding on the doula. I say ironically because I've been working as a doula, but I'm not sure that I want one. Luckily I have some connections ;)  I really need to start getting myself into shape both physically and mentally to prepare for this birth. I'm a little nervous going into it because of DS's long birth, but I'm also feeling positive that this will be a totally different experience for us. I think she will come fairly fast and it will be an "easy" birth. I've had some really great intuition and connections with this pregnancy, and something is just telling me that it's going to be alright.

post #15 of 33

Ahhhh.... birth stories!  I LOVE birth stories and I LOVE birth!  When it comes up in conversation, my eyes light up and I get all excited. I usually gush about how much I love birth which oftentimes gets me some pretty bizarre looks from people.  Nope, I am not a masochist and I am not one of those with pain-free births.  But, I feel so connected to life and God during labor and birth.  (As a Christian, I believe that men and women are created in the image and likeness of God.)  Birth is one area where my likeness to God truly shines. It is uniquely feminine and I feel that it is a true privilege to birth babies and take part in the creative plan in such a direct way.  I look forward to it, enjoy doing it, am high for a year or so afterward on the experience and then start longing to do it again!  Think I am crazy yet? winky.gif

 

With my first labor, things started up after a good night's sleep, I got to the hospital after an hour of labor (WAY too early).  Labor was semi-easy in the beginning with contractions 4 minutes apart and lasting 45 seconds or so and me being regular ol' fun-loving, joke telling Jodie in between. At 5 cm, I consented to the breaking of my waters and got into the bathtub.  There, things got rough (this is why I have a slight anxiety about having a water birth this time, though my rational mind tells me the intensity picked up b/c water was broken and baby got lodged into a BAD position).  Five hours later, I was still at 5 cm.  greensad.gif The pitocin talk started happening.  I started feeling out of control (in relation to labor) and half an hour later asked to be checked again.  I was fully dialated. Yes, 5 to 10 cm in a half an hour.  Then came the pushing.  4 hours of it.  I am shocked that no one mentioned c/s, but I am sure they were thinking it.  I am grateful for the nurse that suggested I get up and try sitting on the toilet for a little while, because THAT did the trick!  DD dropped, I hobbled over to the bed and easily pushed out a posterior baby.  (No wonder we had such a hard time!) Tearing? Yes.  Not good. (18 hours of labor)

 

With the birth of DD2, I chose a midwife at a birth center in a hospital.  I had a prenatal appt  in the morning and consented to an exam.  "Today or tomorrow, labor will start," I was told.  I went home and started experiencing mild contractions (not really regular), tried to take matters into my own hands and did the most fun natural induction technique I could think of.  My DH was happy to oblige.  (Thank God for Elmo! lol.**See below.) After that, contractions were more regular, but not really painful, so we went to the mall and then dropped DD1 off at the inlaws.  Went back to the mall (No one could tell I was in labor.  During contractions, I'd stop and "window shop" and then start walking again when it ended) and then left when it was "too loud" for me.  From here, we went to by some furniture for the new patio we were putting in, but I called the mw to give her a heads up that we were going to be leaving where we were in 20 minutes and would probably be at the hospital in half an hour because I could feel that we were getting close to tub time.  "Where are you? What are you doing now?" she asked.  "I am at Ollie's picking out patio furniture."  (Needless to say, she thought I was either crazy or not in labor.)  Half an hour later (9:30), we got to the hospital and the contractions s.l.o.w.e.d.  I was able to cheerily fill out the paper work and talk about how excited I was.  Once I was in my room (10pm), mw came and checked me.  4 cm.  Only one more than I had been late morning time. I paid no mind to the number.  I knew that my body had just slowed things down bc of the new environment and that things would pick up soon.  I told her we'd have the baby by midnight and she laughed b/c she thought I was joking. (She told me later that she thought it would be a 6am type time for birth.)  Mw said she was going to take a nap since things would prob be a while (they have places for mw's to nap) and to call for her when things got a little more intense. ok.  Everyone leaves and within MINUTES, contractions were fast and furious.  Most of the time with no rest in between.  After an hour, a nurse came in to check on me and see how I was doing.  I said, "Good.  How do I know when to get into the water?" "When things start feeling unmanageable," was the response.  Ok.  She came back after a little while to see how I was doing and I said I wasn't ready for the water yet.  She left and not even 10 minutes later, things became what I imagined "unmanageable" to be.  I called for the mw and she came (I found out later that she was thinking I'd be like maybe 6 cm or so... too early to get into the water, for sure) and found me to be 10 cm. (This was at 2 minutes til midnight.)  She told me to bear down if it felt good.  I told her I had been "breathing the baby down" for a little while.  A few minutes later, I feel a pop! and baby's water broke and with the water came her head, sticking out between my legs with nowhere to birth.  I was across the room from the bed and ad to wobble back to birth the rest of her.  Time of birth 12:05. Darn! 5 minutes off! winky.gif (12 hours of labor but only 3 or 4 of those 'active')  I had some tearing again, and again, that was no fun.

 

This time, my goal is no tearing.  I will be giving birth at home with a mw.  I, too, have a (fear is the wrong word)... I have a feeling that it might be a good idea to be prepared for a UC.  However, most of the things I need for a UC I will have on hand for a hb.  Basically, this time around, I am just going to take things as they come and enjoy the unpredictable ride!  We'll fill up a birth pool, but if I don't use it for labor, mw says I can use it for a post partum herbal bath.  I plan on having my 5 yo around if she would like to be (and I have a feeling she will since the first thing she wants to do in the morning is was birth videos on youtube).  If the labor is a middle of the night kind of thing, I will not bother shipping off the 2 yo, but just ask my mom to tend to the girls if they should wake.  My ideal birth would just be myself and my DH, but since he's a bit uneasy about that, I don't mind a mw there as long as she is hands off when I want her to be (and mine seems like she will be).   The only fears I have going into the home stretch are testing positive for Group B Strep and dealing with what that means to me (another thing to agonize and think over and weigh risks, etc).  Other than that, I will take it as it comes.

 

**Edited to add: I want to make it clear I was thankful for Elmo, not because I find him sexy, but because it distracted my DD1 long enough to "induce labor!"


Edited by jodieanneanton - 12/7/12 at 5:48am
post #16 of 33

Jodie, I just love you!  :)   I would want to be friends with you if I met you in real life, for sure.  :)   

post #17 of 33

Jodie, I don't think you're crazy. I'm really looking forward to birth and all that comes with it. I only hope I get the chance, this time. They wouldn't even let me go into labor, last time, and my disappointment was immense.

post #18 of 33

Spughy - I'm so sorry your Doula bailed on you. That's so unprofessional of her not to have a solid back up in place. Someone you had met and would have felt comfortable replacing her. Getting tired is understandable but leaving you Doula-less is NOT!

 

HUGS mama

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Spughy - I'm so sorry your Doula bailed on you. That's so unprofessional of her not to have a solid back up in place. Someone you had met and would have felt comfortable replacing her. Getting tired is understandable but leaving you Doula-less is NOT!

 

HUGS mama

 

No, it was totally OK.  She didn't leave me with no support, and doulas are people too and shouldn't have to work 18-hour stints!  I totally can't remember now if there was a backup plan or not but it didn't bother me that she left.  And sadly, she passed away last year so I can't go back and ask her :-(  We stayed in touch after, she was a really good person.

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No, it was totally OK.  She didn't leave me with no support, and doulas are people too and shouldn't have to work 18-hour stints!  I totally can't remember now if there was a backup plan or not but it didn't bother me that she left.  And sadly, she passed away last year so I can't go back and ask her :-(  We stayed in touch after, she was a really good person.

Glad to hear you were ok with it :)

I totally understand we Doula's are people too, no one is good support when they are drunk-tired (I call it). My condolences to you (hug)

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