Infertility ONE Thread Graduates - Winter 2012/2013 - Page 2

[kparker]

You look great, Deborah!

Thanks for the words, everyone. Guy's lip tie appt is tomorrow. I'm terrified and excited. His dad is taking the day off and coming with us so I won't be alone with the poor kid after it's done. I wouldn't be breastfeeding still today if it weren't for his support, it's so nice. I hope the clipping fixes all our problems!

Blurb update, as I had my baby in Nov ;P
kparker - mom to Guy the Fifth, born 11/14/12 at 8lbs 9.5oz, after a very short and violent 7.5hr all natural labor!

[deborahbgkelly]

Thanks kparker! Forgot to add: Congratulations!

Edited by deborahbgkelly - 1/9/13 at 7:46am

[toothfairy2be]

Kparker- wishing you both good luck at your appt. I had a tongue tie repair at 5 yrs and again at 23. From my perspective you're doing the right thing taking care of if now... I wish that were an option for my mom so I wasn't as traumatized when I was older.

[kparker]

We got screwed over today. Apparently they don't do lip tie corrections at this place, only tongue tie. They misunderstood what I was asking for, even though I SPECIFICALLY asked and clarified a dozen times for LIP tie. I broke into tears when she said she doesn't perform those, and even said she wouldn't refer me since she doesn't think it is safe to do (even though my boy needs it, badly).

I'm stopping breastfeeding at this time. I'll pump and bottle feed. I can't take the pain anymore.

She did give me some stupid orthodontic pacifier to do stretches with. Maybe I'll try the breast again in a few weeks.

I am so disappointed right now.

[wissa19]

Kparker - I'm so sorry that happened to you.  I think you are just tired and frustrated.  I'm sure it was a BIG disappointment since you thought they were going to be able to help your little guy.  I know next to nothing about a lip tie, but I do know quiet a bit about pain and BF.  My breasts hurt constantly with DS and he cried a lot.  It was a latch problem with a barracuda baby and it was like a fight every session to get him to latch correctly.  Finally in pain and exhausted I switch him to a bottle.  I didn't even bother to pump as I don't get much milk from pumping.  It was the best choice I ever made.  Feedings were much more relaxed and I actually liked DS so much more!! 

I know you must have really wanted to BF, but I promise you your little fellow is going to be just fine.  He will still be just as bonded to you!  Trust me because my DS is such a mommy's boy and everyone says...Wow He REALLY loves you.  ;)  I hope the lip tie isn't a long term problem for him...it seems like there much be specialist somewhere???

Rena - LOL I was a soy formula baby 34 years ago and I think I'm just fine too!!  I'm very conflicted on the BF thing with baby girl because she seems to get a lot of comfort from nursing.  However, she really doesn't have an issue with taking a bottle...  Anyway, I've started giving at least one bottle a day in the evenings to free up some time.  I also give her one any time I just don't feel like nursing or have somewhere to go.  It has helped a lot.  I imagine at some point it will affect my milk supply, but I figure she's had breast milk twice as long as DS and he did just fine.  I wanted to give her a good start and I feel like I have done that.  (Same for you Kparker...you have given guy a good start)

Deborah - Oh yeah!  You are showing...it's so sweet.  

[monkeyscience]

Finally back from my trip and need to go to bed, but wanted to say BLEHHH to your experience, kparker. That's way stupid that they misled you about what they would do, and I'm completely at a loss as to why a lip tie revision would be "unsafe" - it's a tiny, easy-healing flap of skin in a very accessible place. Grrr. Have you been working with a speech pathologist and/or LC on your BFing issues? I can't remember. Either way, lots of hugs to you in this difficult time.

Back with more later!

[toothfairy2be]

Kparker- what kind of doctor did you see? It may be as easy as calling your local dentist, we do them all the time. Not on infants typically but if you talk to them they may consider it. I can't imagine how it is unsafe in any way, it affects nursing, speech & tooth development & is routine in most dental & orthodontic practices. Sorry they let you down

[deborahbgkelly]

It's exciting to be showing given the trouble we had growing with the boys. Later today we have the first ultrasound and I'm sure I'll be at least a little less inclined to try to hide my bump. I only want to because it's early and people are idiots. I did, however, decide that I'm not going to not wear what's comfortable because people might guess. P.S. I'll be taking another picture tomorrow :-).

[deborahbgkelly]

Today was my first ultrasound and it went great. Baby was measuring 6w3d and I'm 6w6d which is totally normal range and hb was 126. They like it at 120 or higher so we are good there too! I also have no cysts so I can start my prenatal yoga and she thought it would even be a good idea to keep me centered and my anxiety levels low. I will post a picture for you all later.

[monkeyscience]

Okay, did a few more updates - including stealing Hope's info from the IVF grad thread - WELCOME, BABY!!

I don't have any actual info from Gem or Gozal, though I know they had their babies, so they're still on there for now. Crazy that it's not till August that we have more babies due!

Other than that, I feel like total crap (terrible cold/flu or something), so I'll save personals for another time. Let me know if any more updates need to happen!

[wissa19]

Monkey - Hope you feel better soon.

Deborah - So glad to hear everything is looking good!! Yeah for a nice strong hb!

AFM - learning to type while BF...

[wissa19]

Monkey - Hope you feel better soon.

Deborah - Yeah for an encouraging ultrasound!  Getting the hb at 6 weeks is awesome.

AFM - learning to type while BF -- baby girl is 3 months or 12 weeks--

attaching pictures---hope to see updated pics from you guys soon - notice she will hold a bottle ;) quick learner as this is not how she has gotten 95% of her meals.

[deborahbgkelly]

I'm almost 7 weeks (6w6d, marked wrong on U/S), but yes, it is awesome and we found it right away. Here's a pic: 

I also had great progesterone and estrogen numbers. My progesterone went up despite the switch to suppositories which don't show up in the blood (up to 49.6 from 34.2) and Estrogen was 531, up from 310.

[kparker]

<3 the pics, guys!

monkeyscience: I see LCs monthly at LLL meetings and have met with an IBCLC at home a couple of times. His latch is as wide as he can get it but that darn lip just doesn't flange out even with me trying to flip it during a latch or after. I have not talked to a speech person yet. They told me it'd be unsafe because they would have to sedate or put him under general anesthesia, which is bad for babies. I thought it'd be more of a hold him and clip it thing like tongue tie but not according to my FIL (who's a dentist) and this dentist we took him to since my FIL said he doesn't do those things.

toothfairy2be: we talked to/saw a dentist. She said lip ties have to be done by ENTs, oral surgeons, or a periodontist (I think). Again like I said to monkey^ about the "unsafe" bit. My FIL said they have to dig the connective tissue out of the gums so it doesn't scar up and form adhesions, making the problem worse later. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about but whatever.

wissa: At least I can pump 1-2 oz from left and 4+ from right every 1.5-2 hrs! I'm set for that, thankfully. I didn't want to have to buy formula since it can be expensive. The devil in me wants to put all my extra into a half gal milk jug and see if my husband notices. He drinks stupid skim milk so the full-fat appearance should tip him off but I'd laugh my butt right off if he didn't notice, and took a swig. I'm evil.

I can safely say I feel a LOT more sane since I quit breastfeeding during the day. I still do it at night, when I'm half asleep and not paying attention. It takes as little as 3 to as many as 12 attempts to latch him usually, but once he's good, it's good, and I zone out or play on Facebook on my Kindle. And since I've been mean and using that ortho paci to stretch it, as well as stretching it over the bottle nipple, I can safely say that it seems to flip out slightly easier already. Maybe my imagination but the dentist who gave us the paci did say maybe as soon as a week to see results from stretching.

[monkeyscience]

Ugh, that is stupid - it is totally a flip-and-clip, no anesthesia, no digging, unless our doc was totally incompetent or Guy V has some totally different type of tie. Maybe that's possible? And manual stretching can make a difference, so keep it up! BB's tongue tie was not (in the speech pathologist's opinion) sufficiently clipped, but he definitely has increased mobility/stretch with the exercises we've done. Took several weeks to achieve that, though.

[kparker]

Guy's tie looks kinda like this pic I googled, in severity: http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/incredimama/IMG_2596.jpg It goes nearly all the way down to the edge of the gumline, barely missing attaching to the ridge which would be the worst case possible.

UGH

[planegreen]

Hi all.  Please remove me from the roster.  To make a long story short, I had an early u/s on Friday and everything was good with baby except the heartrate was slow at 97bpm at 7w0d.  Dr. ordered another u/s for today to make sure the heart had started beating faster but in today's u/s at 7w5d, while baby measured 7w4d, there was no heartbeat.  I'll be having a D&C on Thursday.  I'm heartbroken and just wish there was an explanation for this.  This is my second miscarriage, both at almost the same point in the pregnancy.  Dr. will send the tissues for eval this time around and maybe I'll find something more out but who knows.  I just want another baby - our family does not feel complete!  Best wishes to all of you on this long and hard journey. 

[deborahbgkelly]

Oh, PlaneGreen. I am so sorry to hear that. Hugs.

[monkeyscience]

Plane - So sorry to hear your news. :( I've moved you to "In Our Thoughts". I hope you get some answers from the testing.

[shesaidboom]

I'm so sorry planegreen.