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I don't wanna cause a panic on here because I surely don't know.  I've googled for days and I cannot remember for the life of me which article it was that I read.  But the next big deadline for action is the plan to raise or not raise the debt ceiling and that is the 17th.  I dont' think we'll see any concrete evidence of movement in the govt until at LEAST the 17th.  Why would we?  And now they are forcing back to work 400K of the furloughed employees(with no pay still).  That means this shutdown is no longer painful for our govt to keep going and it could last until lord knows when.  If it hurts, it's likely to be shorter.  They are getting paid and nearly everyone is working.  Doesn't hurt them a bit.  But this article said that if the shutdown lasted more than 3 weeks, the states would start running out of money. So if it hits the 3rd week without the govt doling out more money, it could start to be painful for us.  Next month we may not get food stamps.  

 

BUT after googling more this morning I find this:

 

38. Will I be able to get food stamps? Yes. The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) is funded through the Recovery Act and from funds that don't expire for another year, the U.S. Department of Agriculture says.

39. What about WIC?No money would be available to pay the administrative costs of the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children. But because it's administered by states, there may be state funds available.

40. And the federal school lunch program? Schools are reimbursed for these costs on a monthly basis and are allowed to carry over funds from the previous fiscal year. The USDA expects most schools will be able to continue providing meals through October.

http://twitchy.com/2013/09/30/looming-government-shutdown-elicits-concern-among-food-stamp-recipients/

 

Many worry about the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or food stamps, upon which millions rely. The U.S. Department of Agriculture, which runs SNAP, released a shutdown planthat shows dire fates for federal nutrition programs:

  • SNAP is fully funded through October, with $2 billion in contingency funds available for state administrative help.
  • The Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children, or WIC, will not receive any additional federal funds. Some states have the ability to prolong funding. A statement from the USDA (see below) estimates that WIC has about a month.
  • The Child Nutrition Programs, which support school breakfast and lunch programs, operate on a monthly cycle, so that will continue at least through October.

http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/rulesforengagement/2013/10/what_is_actually_happening_with_food_stamps_during_the_shutdown.html

 

"States can probably shelter families receiving WIC from the effects of a shutdown for a short period, but it could be a real problem if it lasts more than a few days," policy analyst Elizabeth Lower-Basch of the Center for Law and Social Policy said in an email Saturday.

The USDA said food stamps would not be affected in October.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/28/government-shutdown-wic_n_4004887.html

 

 

SO basically, if you have WIC checks, get the full month now.  Ask a friend to store milk fo ryou, etc.  You may not get more.  Also, be judicious with the use of your food stamps because we may not see any money next month.  

SO, any idea how Section 8 will be affected by the shutdown?

 

I've only been on it for two months and I don't really understand the process yet.

I live in an apartment community run by a non profit for single parent students. Every last one of us gets Section 8. I'm pretty sure that if for some reason, Section 8 were unable to pay our vouchers, we wouldn't be responsible for it (just going by how I know this organization) but if Section 8 shuts down, I'm sure others won't be so lucky. I really hope that we can fix this soon. I have a TANF check, a transportation allowance, my daughter receives a child care subsidy, she's in head start, I get Section 8, food stamps, and an utility allowance every month. If for some reason, this continues on and benefits get cut, I only have about $1,000 to last until I get my next set of grants in Feb (assuming that I would even get my grants because they're federally funded). Thankfully, I have paid my portion of my rent for the next year. But I'd still have to pay my utilities (which are crazy low, less than $50 a month), gas to school which is about 120 miles a week, my car insurance (has to be paid 6 months at a time, it's about $600 altogether), food if food stamps stop, and incidentals. If Head Start ended, my daughter would have to go to daycare all day. It's funded through Metro Way and the majority of the kids get chidlcare assistance. I don't know how they would react (would they waive the fees for all of us?)

 

Geez. This is a headache. I know that I'm more fortunate than some, but if this goes on too long, even I will be screwed.

post #1062 of 1405
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Originally Posted by GraceLove View Post

Justmama, thanks for posting!

 :heartbeat  No problem.  It isn't concrete yes and no but it's a start.  

 

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GracieLove - here food pantries work 1 of 3 ways. The most common is - go in, fill out paperwork, show ID, SS cards, income, etc, wait a while longer, get given a box of food, no choice involved in what you get. Or #2, sign in & get a number, come back at proper time, go down line & get x many of this or y many of that, but some choice. Or #3 is pretty much like a grocery store, but you get x many with a blue sticker, x many with a red sticker, unlimited perishables, etc. That one is pretty rare around here :)

Thank you frugalmama.  I've never been(though we've literally been down to eating pancakes over and over and over and over due to no food left before) and I wondered how it worked too because we will lose food stamps at the end of this month either way due to income.  So I can see the food pantry being a good resource for us soon if we need it.  I'm hoping to never need it but it's good to have that knowledge of how it works beforehand.

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Everything is making my nerves bad. Paired with the no job for hubby,this govt crap, and I feel edgy. Anyways, the side job today I found on craigslist worked out great and I made $50. She ask me to come back every Sunday at least for the next 5 weeks so that will help. On the job front DH has filled out job apps for around our town in NC,other towns in NC,OR,PA,ND,TX, and a few other states on a oil rig. Hopefully one of those or a local place will call back. We don't get food stamps until the 19th so I am praying they are on the card then. I am going to get all my WICs tomorrow when they come in date. So far I have enough money to pay my car insurance,light bill,water bill,babysitter (we let her go on Friday I feel HORRIBLE),and hopefully the house payment for sept on the 11th I think or 13th. We still need to come up with gas money,more grocery money to make it til 19th,loan money or they will take our car since it is collateral,and oct house payment. I dunno. I give up. On top of it all my dad is the cosigner on my trailer and he is giving me a hard time. Him and my mom call me daily telling me I better get this figured out and not be late on the house payment and ruin them. They don't care about how their grand kids will eat, or where they will live it is all about them like normal. They also called everyone we know and told them my very personal financial business in order to find someone to take my house in the event that hubby can't find a job.

post #1064 of 1405
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Originally Posted by justmama View Post
 

 :heartbeat  No problem.  It isn't concrete yes and no but it's a start.  

 

Thank you frugalmama.  I've never been(though we've literally been down to eating pancakes over and over and over and over due to no food left before) and I wondered how it worked too because we will lose food stamps at the end of this month either way due to income.  So I can see the food pantry being a good resource for us soon if we need it.  I'm hoping to never need it but it's good to have that knowledge of how it works beforehand.

 We've only been a few times in the last 7 years, but I used to volunteer a lot with the food bank in college so I know a fair amount plus I try to keep up with all the low-income stuff locally to act as a resource for friends.

 

My tips: ASK AROUND - if you have friends who might have used it - ask them where is "good" to go. There are some in town here that are wonderful - you can go every week {every other week is just bread / pastries though}, lots of choice, fresh produce, etc. And then there are those that you can only go once every 3 or 6 months & you are lucky to not get spoiled food or just a ton of junk. Try to find one that is "client choice" - that usually means either option 2 or 3 of the types I listed & is BETTER. If you google your town / county with food bank / food pantry, sometimes you find clues like maybe a church article that mentions it's client choice or something about how it's set up. Don't discount small church run pantries that are not on the main list from your regional food bank - here often they are better & you can go more often. Some churches choose NOT to get food from the regional food bank because then they have to comply with their rules {including a rule of only 1 box in 3 months}. As a rule if you get there & there is a long line, it's probably a decent place & gives okay food. Talk to people in line - ask them where is good to go for what you need. Here you want to look for what I call "working homeless" in line - homeless but working & cleaned up {as opposed to those that look really rough, KWIM?} - they often as some of the nicest people & can be a huge resource as to where to go for what in town. Be sure to aslo look for "bread lines" - here that means a pantry that gives only bread items & produce, and often is NOT on the local 211 lists.

 

Also - use google calendar. I put every food bank I know about locally into a private google calender, with notes on each one & set it up to repeat accordingly. Then I make a seperate posting of when I was there last {also do this for bill help} so I can look & see exactly when I was there last & avoid getting there & it's too soon for help again.

post #1065 of 1405
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Originally Posted by frugalmama View Post
 

 We've only been a few times in the last 7 years, but I used to volunteer a lot with the food bank in college so I know a fair amount plus I try to keep up with all the low-income stuff locally to act as a resource for friends.

 

My tips: ASK AROUND - if you have friends who might have used it - ask them where is "good" to go. There are some in town here that are wonderful - you can go every week {every other week is just bread / pastries though}, lots of choice, fresh produce, etc. And then there are those that you can only go once every 3 or 6 months & you are lucky to not get spoiled food or just a ton of junk. Try to find one that is "client choice" - that usually means either option 2 or 3 of the types I listed & is BETTER. If you google your town / county with food bank / food pantry, sometimes you find clues like maybe a church article that mentions it's client choice or something about how it's set up. Don't discount small church run pantries that are not on the main list from your regional food bank - here often they are better & you can go more often. Some churches choose NOT to get food from the regional food bank because then they have to comply with their rules {including a rule of only 1 box in 3 months}. As a rule if you get there & there is a long line, it's probably a decent place & gives okay food. Talk to people in line - ask them where is good to go for what you need. Here you want to look for what I call "working homeless" in line - homeless but working & cleaned up {as opposed to those that look really rough, KWIM?} - they often as some of the nicest people & can be a huge resource as to where to go for what in town. Be sure to aslo look for "bread lines" - here that means a pantry that gives only bread items & produce, and often is NOT on the local 211 lists.

 

Also - use google calendar. I put every food bank I know about locally into a private google calender, with notes on each one & set it up to repeat accordingly. Then I make a seperate posting of when I was there last {also do this for bill help} so I can look & see exactly when I was there last & avoid getting there & it's too soon for help again.

 

That's a fantastic idea. I've used one and it was pretty much junk - a bag of food which was pretty much just super processed pasta and PB. I don't know that we could get produce, that and milk are my big worries. I am SO hoping we can move, start a good garden, and use that to supplement for next year, even though that is no help now!!

 

Definitely stocked up on canned and dry goods today, though.

post #1066 of 1405

Just checking in..

 

I'm so sorry for what you guys are going through right now with the shutdown. That is freaking awful that essential services might be unfunded! :( Keeping a calendar with all the different food banks/days listed is a great idea. I might have to do that soon too, as on full assistance (we were approved thankfully), we will still be several hundred short (for the most basic stuff - house payment, utilities, groceries @ $3.50 per person per day and a bit of gas for our car). I probably sound so ungrateful but I hate the fact that we can't even meet our most basic of needs.

 

We're going *okay* here.. just keeping everything to an absolute minimum in regards of cost.. Lots of beans and rice dishes..  My pantry and fridge are absolutely empty.. I just have enough food for 3-4 days at a time. Not going anywhere, not buying anything, not even contemplating buying anything. DH has been applying for jobs everyday but it's so hard to get one now.. he's either over qualified or not qualified enough. It's frustrating. 

 

Thanks so much for all the advice regarding children and finances.. I took all of the advice on board and had another talk to my DD. I told her that we'd be fine and that mama and papa always managed to keep them safe and thriving and will continue to do so. She's still a little anxious but not overly.. just asks DH if he has been looking for work every now and then and asks me about how much dinner cost etc. :o

 

Hugs to everyone :Hug I hope the shutdown is resolved quickly. 

 

 

post #1067 of 1405
This shutdown is really upsetting for so many. Im feeling blessed we havent been affected yet and that hopefully my husbands company wont be affected unless we go many months. We have been slowly getting the needs we had been neglecting like sheets. Unfortunately we we need to get dd a new mattress soon, and geez are halloween costumes pricey. So still some money worries but not as many. If I can help anyone please pm me andI will try, even if its just brainstorming and a sympathetic ear.

Im up early because maintence wants to stretch a few carpets. I hope its not too much of a hassle. We have major state inspections once a year and right beforehand major work always gets done. I hope they dont raise rent too high after everything. Just in time for Christmas, lol!
post #1068 of 1405

Happyhats have you checked thrift and consignment shops for costumes? The ones in the store are so pricey.  I was able to get a free costume for the baby (if she is here in time!) at the local Catholic church clothing barn.  Also in our town the PTO does a costume swap every year and you don't have to bring a costume to take one or even live in the town.  Maybe your town or a town nearby has a swap?

 

I wanted to share a cheap soup recipe with you guys. I make it once or twice a week in the colder months and it's so cheap and healthy. http://ahumbleharvest.com/2011/10/08/parsley-soup/ I even tried a variation this week where I subbed cauliflower for the potato and it was still good.  I plan to try broccoli and turnip at some point soon.  Every week I cook a whole chicken in the crockpot then I make a big batch of bone broth the next day and make a couple batches of this soup.  It's also yummy if you throw in cooked quinoa after it's done cooking.  It gives it a more hearty texture.  

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Thread Starter 

How is everyone doing.  I found a package of frozen burritos YEAH!!!! so DS has a few meals out of those.

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Earthymamaofdaisy, that recipe sounds good. We've mostly been eating our CSA foods. I made a big pot of potato/leek soup that lasted a couple meals. Anyone ever pickle beets? I need to use up some beets and thought that may be a good way to make them last.

post #1071 of 1405
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Anyone ever pickle beets? I need to use up some beets and thought that may be a good way to make them last.

I have a yummy recipe for pickled beets, but you have to can them....

 

Or you could make beet jelly with this recipe:  http://www.modernhomesteaders.net/poverty-jelly/


Edited by kathirynne - 10/11/13 at 8:11am
post #1072 of 1405

Good news on my end, for once! I think *fingers crossed* that I have the electric bill disconnect amount taken care of. Took 5 days of running around town like crazy, and begging people to help, but the full disconnect amount is pledged! I still need to cover this months bill, and I might go back 1 place that would pay that {but they wouldn't pay the disconnect - as if that makes sense?}. Not sure though as they were really a bit rude and I'm just not sure I want to go through that again.

 

In other news, our bus system is changing & I'm going to have to switch to bus passes :( Right now we can get a transfer on top of a transfer, and pretty much I can pay once & then just pay transfers if I am careful to get back on a bus within the time. Makes it slightly cheaper than using a bus pass, but not much. They are switching to an electronic system & doing away the the transfer on top of transfer. So next month I need to come up with $35 for a bus pass for me, and $35 for student pass for dd {but her's will last through the end of the year}.

 

But I think it might be doable - had 6 eBay auctions up that ended this week, and made about $100. Won't get it for 2-3 weeks, but hey income is wonderful no matter when it comes! I'll use that money to do sweaters where I can turn $2 into $5, and maybe make enough to pay for everything.

 

 

How is everyone else? Justmama you have been on my mind - not sure why but you have. Hope you are doing okay.

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I am so annoyed with the US government for the shutdown bullhooey.  My brother is furloughed- and coping by heading off for extended mountain biking trips with friends.  I am not impacted as I am not in the US, but most of my family members are. 

As for us, things will be tight for a month or so yet, but they are getting better.  My husband got over his fit about spending money, removed his head from his posterior, and picked up our new (to me) car.  Phew- the plates on the last one expired a couple weeks ahead of when we were able to replace.  That stunk.  But, we have our nice safe and family friendly vehicle now, and that is a HUGE pressure off.   And because I like this picture- we took a scenic route home today after dropping my husband off to catch a bus back to work. 

 



Monday is a holiday, and we are hoping my husband is called in to work as the extra money would be great and we are already waiting to do anything until his next trip home.

My dad was here for a visit and brought up a few great kitchen items- including a nice big griddle- breakfasts are much easier now!

I stopped at the thrift store this morning and managed to score some brand new Skidders for my youngest for 50 cents.  Yay! Now to make some curry with leftovers in the fridge and call it a day- not too shabby!

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:blowkiss  Thank you frugalmama.  I'm okay.  Surviving at least. All the bills are caught up for the month for the first time in a LONG.TIME.  We'll see what happens with the shutdown and that will determine my finances for the rest of the month of course but at least there's not gonna be any shut-offs.  REALLY thankful for that.  I'm picking up little babysitting jobs here and there and we had extra training hours at work this month so that was excellent because I'll get paid for it.  I heard on the news tonight that heating assistance might be affected by the shutdown very soon if it doesn't end.  *sigh*  Not good ladies, not good.  

 

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/10/10/tsr-pkg-moos-drunk-dial-congress.cnn.html  tee hee.  Hey, we aren't getting paid, we need to get our kicks somehow.

 

 

 

Gratefuls:

 

-extra hours at work

-a halfway decent night's sleep last night.  5 1/2 hours!!!

-got caught up on laundry today

-coffee

-my co*y blanket on my lap.  fall is my favorite season.

post #1075 of 1405
Going to check out a thrift shop tomorrow for costumes and hopefully another on saturday. Saturday we are going apple picking, my first time. A great family experience plus a great price. Tonight my mom is bringing me some free milk from her job, its a day expired so they cannot sell it. Today we went to pick up some super cheap packaged goods I am saving for the food drive we have every year. I got a cake mix for fifty cents and four boxes mac and cheese for a dollar. I know its not very health but a cake mix comes in handy around the holidays and mac and cheese can at least be made into a meal easily. I want to use the store coupons a local store has given out to make upa food box. And around thanksgiving my freecycle group is doing dinner boxes to families in need and we can do perishables. I know I will have at least chicken stock and corn on the cob to donate, and hopefully I can make some banana bread or some other baked good. Its nice to be able to be on the giving end.

Hubby is actually off tomorrow. Its nice to have a long weekend, and Im happy for him since hes been getting burnt out but I also hope it doesnt happen too often since we depend on his overtime. At least this is a good month for it since there is five paychecks.
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Things here have been rough but seem to be getting much better I hope. My husband was offered a job but is having to jump through a bunch of hoops since he is a trade affected worker and the state will pay the company for his training. We had to go get everyone's birth certificates at $10 each. He will have to drive to a place 2 hrs away just to do the drug test but then should start work next week. We had just enough to pay our Sept house payment that was behind but it left us with no grocery or gas money to get us through. He called his aunt who is like a mom to him and she is going to give him $150 to get gas and grocery since she said if he called and ask she knows we are in need and not using her since we have never ask anyone in 10 years for money she knew it was serious. Thank Goodness for her today and she is driving the 1 hr drive here to bring it in a bit. That is about all that is going on with me. Getting a new pyrex dish and some baby legs for my son tomorrow by trading a gallon of milk and some beans to a girl I know who is also in a desperate situation. I hope you guys are doing okay.

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Avery'smama, I had to get 2 birth certificates last month and it was $60!!

 

My oldest child has autism/adhd and some minor birth defects so we a genetics test run on him, turns out he has a very, very rare genetic deletion (14q11.2) and I was told he can probably get social security for it? Anyone know anything about that? Sure would make life easier!

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micah_mae, I don't know about the genetic condition but the autism itself is usually a qualifying condition.  My neighbor is applying for her daughter since they are in a tight spot since the father isn't paying support or his share of daycare since she's working full time.  Her daughter has high-functioning autism is doesn't utili*e a bunch of services other than a weekly counseling session and an IEP and she was told that she probably will qualify.  It's worth a shot right?  Worst that happens is he's denied and you aren't any worse off than you are now.

 

 

averysmomma, I'm glad you and your husband were able to get some help from his aunt.  I haven't had to ask for help in YEARS and I think it would kill me to do it.  I'm sure it wasn't fun but I bet it will feel good to get some food in the house.

 

 

happyhats, enjoy the long weekend your family.  

post #1079 of 1405
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Originally Posted by micah_mae_ View Post
 

Avery'smama, I had to get 2 birth certificates last month and it was $60!!

 

My oldest child has autism/adhd and some minor birth defects so we a genetics test run on him, turns out he has a very, very rare genetic deletion (14q11.2) and I was told he can probably get social security for it? Anyone know anything about that? Sure would make life easier!

 

From what I know, a lot of the genetic stuff is pretty open & shut for getting SSI. I would call either a well known SSI lawyer or maybe a special needs resource center & see if they have recommendations on where to start. And document everything - you will need it.

 

I need to get a death certificate for my mom, and it's $25. Haven't been able to afford it since APRIL. If I can get it I can start the ball rolling to get some funds she was due, but haven't been able to get it started because of no death certificate.

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Micah- My daughter is autistic and has Adhd and a learning disability. I decided to apply her about 2 years ago and we were denied. I could have fought it with a lawyer but honestly at that time we had just found out and we decided to let it go. I hope you have better luck then we did though.

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