January 2013 Chit Chat - Page 8 « Back to Group Discussions

[Becky Wheeler]

Off topic: What would be a good name for a restaurant that does breakfast foods and soup? Like a down-home, diner type name.

[seraf]

Joanie, wow, I'm sorry about your friend. Why wouldn't they try adding in supplemental formula before going to tube feeding? Soren is small enough that the doctor wants to keep an eye on it. Breastfed babies can be FTT like any other baby. I have heard of people having problems with scheduling the baby leading to FTT, but sometimes it just happens.

We thought Soren had a UTI so he spent all day in the ER to find out he is anemic. I didn't know anemia caused fever and cloudy urine but those symptoms are gone now. He has only peed 5 tiny pees all day but he's totally fine. Um.

[dashley111]

Joanie- is there something else that is making them think FTT? Like a milestone issue or something? Bettie was not even on the chart.

[CDsMom1031]

What is FTT?

[seraf]

FTT= failure to thrive.

[birdhappy85]

Well I guess they've been concerned about the baby's weight for months but now they're saying she shows other signs of FTT like she has poor neck strength and I guess her genital area is wrinkly looking in some manner that tells them malnutrition? My friend has tried supplementing with formula but the baby doesn't like the taste or something because she rejects it most times. I think she's having luck with the baby taking to a mixture of breastmilk and formula now. But she only has a few more days before the doctor says it's tube-feeding time...

[Jaimee]

Originally Posted by birdhappy85 

Well I guess they've been concerned about the baby's weight for months but now they're saying she shows other signs of FTT like she has poor neck strength and I guess her genital area is wrinkly looking in some manner that tells them malnutrition? My friend has tried supplementing with formula but the baby doesn't like the taste or something because she rejects it most times. I think she's having luck with the baby taking to a mixture of breastmilk and formula now. But she only has a few more days before the doctor says it's tube-feeding time...

I was gonna say, what are they most concerned about really?  Weight loss is concerning, no weight gain at all for months is concerning, but not just low weight.  Avalon was at the very bottom of the charts until she was closer to 18 months.  I'm talking like 3%.  And Ash said Bettie has been off the bottom.  Both of these girls were/are dealing with allergies.  Supplementing with formula could make everything worse if there is a soy or dairy allergy.  Has your friend tried eliminating foods from her diet? 

[Jaimee]

Nicole, just saw your FB post!  I guess it was December 14th's BDing session that did it then?  O was probably around December 15th, plus or minus a few days.  Congrats on a due date!!  Are you going to cheat on us and join the September DDC? 

[dashley111]

Jaimee is absolutely right about the allergies thing.  B has gained a LOT of weight since we figured out her allergens and cut them out.  She went from 15 to 19 pounds in a little over 2 months, which was just outrageous for her because she never gained more than around half a pound per month before.  FTT babies and low weight babies are to be treated very differently, though, while B was always low or off the chart (and is still in the 4th percentile) she always hit milestones and had decent motor control.  I hope your friend is able to figure out what is REALLY going on...there is obviously an underlying problem.

I didn't see Nicole's facebook post!  Because I don't think she is on my facebook...haha...I will have to try to fix that

[Jaimee]

Joanie, sorry I was MIA on your discussion of Sora's behavior... I've been in over my head trying to figure out what seeds and plants to buy for my garden this spring.  I'll need to start indoor seedlings early next month (for some crops), so I want to order now and be prepared.  Planning for my new yard is fun, but frustrating b/c I can never get 10 minutes straight to think about it!  Argh!

Anyway, I wanted to echo what Amanda and Sara and others have already written.  I don't believe a toddler this young can understand the why behind her behaviors.  She might be able to respond to the frightening "NO!" but it's not b/c she is internalizing that she should not do something b/c it's wrong.  Like with sleep, I find it easiest to deal with these types of behaviors with a go with the flow attitude as much as possible.  She's going to want to get into the cat food and water- it's a given.  I would never expect her to be able to learn not to at this age.  Instead, I would put them somewhere else... behind a gate- like in the laundry room with the door open and the gate up.  Or even just on top of the dryer- that's what my friend does.  Anything of interest like electronics, coffee tables, pictures, candles, vases, books, etc. etc. that are within reach or within climbing distance are fair game to a curious toddler.  I just keep moving things.  It won't be like this forever.  Sooner than you realize she'll be able to understand "danger" "sharp!" "stop!" etc. and you can start to teach the why behind not doing certain things.  It's hardest with your first child, of course, making this switch from wanting things they way you want them in your home to having to change everything around and have things be disorganized and not so tidy or convenient.  I totally understand the frustration and I've definitely yelled at my little kids in utter frustration somehow thinking this would make a difference.  But it just makes them cry.  Then you have a mess and a crying baby.  Sometimes it can help to try and think what they must be thinking.  "Ooo, neat new thing!  I want to touch it!  I want to pull it!  What will happen if I throw it?"  These desires are so strong that they will simply keep going back every time you move them away or scream if you take the item away.  They simply do not understand why they can't have it or do what they were doing.  The emotions are very real and for the most part, uncontrolled.  They simply do not have the ability to do so.  Removing interesting objects before they are desired and redirection after an object has been discovered remain the most effective courses of action.  This, of course, gets very tiring when you're parenting solo.  I know!  I was alone with Avery for nearly 2 weeks just prior to Christmas.  It was exhausting in many new ways that parenting three kids is not!  And I know the disappointment that comes with realizing that your sweet baby has now become a mischievous toddler.  The other day, Avery found a rock that one of the olders had brought into the house.  He picked it up and literally bludgeoned Austin in the head.  He has a giant goose egg that has now turned a lovely shad of green.  Awful.  But the fact is, he didn't know what he was doing.  Soon the scratching, pinching, biting, hitting, kicking, pushing phases will begin... So it will go and so it will pass. ((HUGS)) to you Joanie.  And ((HUGS)) to all of us! 

[CDsMom1031]

I'm totally cheating on you guys. But there's no emotions involved, so you guys are still number 1! There are a few familiar "faces" over there, which is nice... But you guys will never be replaced. Add away! I'm Nicole Bell.Am I crazy for wishing to be six days late? Haha.

[Becky Wheeler]

Originally Posted by CDsMom1031 

I'm totally cheating on you guys. But there's no emotions involved, so you guys are still number 1! There are a few familiar "faces" over there, which is nice... But you guys will never be replaced. Add away! I'm Nicole Bell.Am I crazy for wishing to be six days late? Haha.

I'm so HURT!  lol I don't think I could invest as much energy into another message board the way I have with this one. 

[CDsMom1031]

Yeah, I can't. Haha. I just love you guys so much.

[dashley111]

Definitely cannot replace you ladies! I was part of a similar board when I had ODD and it was not nearly as active after a year. I am still friends with some of the moms on Facebook but I doubt the DDC is even around any more.

[Jaimee]

Yeah, we rock.  I just wish J had stuck around, too. 

[Becky Wheeler]

 Where'd she go?

[Jaimee]

She's still an MDC member as far as I know, but she just hasn't posted on the boards in a long time.  I see her posts on FB occasionally, but I miss her presence here with us.

[Mal85]

I totally cheat on you guys too. Well more like I cheat on my last DDC. We still have an ongoing thread in the childhood years. I've been in contact with a handful of my feb. 2009 group for well over 4 years now and they are probably my closest Internet friends although none of us have ever met IRL. I also frequent another message board and have for about 3.5 years. It's a smaller board than here and I don't have any close relationships there, but many, many aquaintances i have kept up with for a long time. You guys are my noob friends when it comes to message boards.

[Becky Wheeler]

I still talk to a few of the 2009 DDC ladies that I had at what to expect.com, but alot of them are catty b**ches. lol

[birdhappy85]

My friend with the FTT 4-mo-old reported good news today! She brought the baby for her checkup and she has gained 3/4 of a pound in just one week! That's incredible compared to the 1 pound PER MONTH she was gaining before. My friend is switching the baby over to formula exclusively now that the baby is growing better after the week of supplementation. I still wonder why her breastmilk wasn't nourishing the baby enough. So curious.