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post #181 of 524
That's why I don't give advice unless asked. I find it mentally draining to try to get people to see my way. It's frustrating. So I just don't.

I don't know if we have anymore non walkers left. Anyone?
post #182 of 524

Some people here already know about the difficulties I had trying to nurse and with supplementing.  If not, I can fill you in.

 

I liked Seraf's comment on focusing on what we can change about our own parenting styles, rather than what others are doing!  (Personally, I've been trying to slow down and spend more one-on-one time with A at the end of the day, rather than attemping to get a million chores done around the house...)

 

Oh, and edited to add that A is an enthusiastic walker, but pretty much a non-TALKER so far. 

She's almost completely TV-free, and spends very little time with battery operated toys (like, she has one that her Grandma got her), so I'm not that concerned... but it would be nice to hear about other non-talkers her age.

post #183 of 524
Thread Starter 

Avery is barely a walker- only a week or two now.  There may  very well be a few others... Coralie? 

post #184 of 524
GGNJ, Shay barely talks. I think he talks less now than he did a few weeks ago. He recently started saying mama. He says, Pippy (our rabbit's name), ooo (poop), pee, ba(th), baby and uh oh. He signs more, all done and nurse. That doesn't seem like much chatter to me.
post #185 of 524

I'm only slightly judgy. I'd like to be less so. I completely understand why people who are struggling sometimes find an easier way. Breastfeeding is best, but it's not worth your health and/ or sanity. Also, I don't judge at all when someone weans an older baby/ toddler. I don't walk around feeling sorry for 1 year olds who are no longer nursing.

 

I totally understand Joanie's friend. Who said it... Becky. Becky put it very well. It's a sense of relief. Less worry.  

 

We all have our things. I judge certain behaviors, other people judge mine. In my book, I'm super-AP. I also feel like I eat incredibly healthy. However, I know that there are plenty of people who would disagree with that because I vaccinate my kids, put my baby in daycare, put my kids in public school,  and eat a vegetarian diet including grains. I have my priorities, other people have theirs.

post #186 of 524
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Some people here already know about the difficulties I had trying to nurse and with supplementing.  If not, I can fill you in.

 

I liked Seraf's comment on focusing on what we can change about our own parenting styles, rather than what others are doing!  (Personally, I've been trying to slow down and spend more one-on-one time with A at the end of the day, rather than attemping to get a million chores done around the house...)

 

Oh, and edited to add that A is an enthusiastic walker, but pretty much a non-TALKER so far. 

She's almost completely TV-free, and spends very little time with battery operated toys (like, she has one that her Grandma got her), so I'm not that concerned... but it would be nice to hear about other non-talkers her age.

 

 

Yes, yes, yes to the bolded! I try to save an hour after dinner to get on the floor and play with Jasper. It's one of my favorite times of the day. 

 

J doesn't talk. He says da-da-da-da-da and ooooooooooo a lot, but those aren't really words. I'm not really worried. He understand what I say, which is good. Also, he signs more now, so that's a plus. 

post #187 of 524

Yeah, I mean A says her mamamamas, dadadadas, and bababababas, but the only world she seems to associate with a specific meaning is "guh", which she uses for pictures of girls in board books, and also to point to herself.

 

She's a real Harpo Marx when it comes to non-verbal communication, though... plenty of eye contact, facial expressions, clapping, pointing, bringing us books to read to her (all day long), etc. 

 

TalkToMeNow, my spouse is a vegetarian and grains are pretty much his middle name!

post #188 of 524
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I think I make so many imperfect choices that I am ok to focus on the ones I can change, rather than the ones my friends could.

Wow, yes!  Love that. 

 

The Bodemeister doesn't walk yet...crawling is sooooo much faster in his book.  He prefers making animal noises rather than talking, but does say dada and mama and "a-KKKK" for his sister Kira.  He signs for more, diaper change (sometimes), all done, pick me up, and nursing.

post #189 of 524

B is a walker not a talker.  ODD was a talker not a walker.  ODD was, I think, 16 months when she started walking and nobody ever thought a thing of it.  

 

As far as battery operated toys and TV playing a role in language development-  I dont buy it.  I know a lot of people have strong feelings about those things, but I have to say that I let my ODD watch Dora for hours and hours every day and she is one of the brightest most intellectual children I have ever encountered, and I do not believe Dora had anything to do with it either way.  I don't let B watch TV, just because in retrospect I realize I was making easy parenting choices instead of actually parenting. 

 

 

Re Advice:  I try not to offer advice unless its asked for.  I get asked for advice a LOT, and I always try to take into consideration the beliefs and parenting style of the person asking before I go on long AP tangents.  If you just start spewing Dr. Sears talk, people will quit asking  lol.gif.  I have a lot of friends who are just having their first baby, while I have 3-  so I know that just plain experience (not parenting methods) plays a huge role in why they ask questions.  I do my best to stay non-extreme.

post #190 of 524

I tend to agree with Jaimee.  I just generally don't hang out with people for very long if they don't have a similar parenting style as mine.  While all of my AP friends do things a little differently, the core is the same and most are very open to new info and support if it means the best thing for their children.  I used to be super judgy, but now I just tend to not care about what other people do.  It's too draining and negative to think about all the babies that could have better..

 

Coralie took a few steps yesterday, but is still crawling and butt scooting to get everywhere.  She says new words all the time though. 

 

I also agree with Ash.  I don't think that media or toys help or prevent a child from talking.  Kids are who they are and will develop when they're ready.  My DS was a very last talker and he had tons of interaction, etc.   Olivine walked at 9mo and never crawled.  There was no way that I was going to be able to teach her to crawl, she refused and spent all day practicing walking/cruising.  Each little brain is different and turns on when it's ready.

 

As for us..  We are leaving here and heading to Cali in a few days.  My mom is in need of some help and it's too hard to live here with my sister.  I will update more as we go.

post #191 of 524
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She's a real Harpo Marx when it comes to non-verbal communication, though... plenty of eye contact, facial expressions, clapping, pointing, bringing us books to read to her (all day long), etc. 

 

Yes, same here!  Now if I could only get DS to stop yowling when he wants something.  But it's so darned effective at getting my attention!

 

 

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As far as battery operated toys and TV playing a role in language development-  I dont buy it.  I know a lot of people have strong feelings about those things, but I have to say that I let my ODD watch Dora for hours and hours every day and she is one of the brightest most intellectual children I have ever encountered, and I do not believe Dora had anything to do with it either way. 

 

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I also agree with Ash.  I don't think that media or toys help or prevent a child from talking.  Kids are who they are and will develop when they're ready.  My DS was a very last talker and he had tons of interaction, etc.   Olivine walked at 9mo and never crawled.  There was no way that I was going to be able to teach her to crawl, she refused and spent all day practicing walking/cruising.  Each little brain is different and turns on when it's ready.

 

So true!  We have been TV-free in our house long before kids came into the picture, so from my perspective, media isn't going to help with language development.  I've always thought that was the silliest thing.  (Plato didn't have an iPad.)  DD was an early talker and at one year was stringing small phrases together.  DS, on the other hand, prefers to moo and oink.  No media for either kid, but they're doing their own thing.  It's very cool!   

post #192 of 524

R has been having a language explosion in the last month. Mid-December he had a handful of words he'd say. I've been writing them down since then as he uses them (as in, says it more than once and for more than a day!) and he's now at almost 30 words. He is VERY chatty! And if he doesn't have the 'words' he just chatters along with tone and inclination and facial/hand gestures. It's the funniest thing! He's so cute. I'm really enjoying this age! Love him so much! love.gif

post #193 of 524
Eli is super chatty too and is in full on walking mode - no more crawling at all. His newest words are eea(t), air (high chair), when asked if his food is good he says: "guu ya" and nods his head enthusiastically. He also says "lai" for light. He has a ton of words, I love how he says tea when he wants a drink or watches me drink mine (I drink a lot of tea,and when he was smaller I would tell him i was having tea, and that is how every liquid became known as tea). He has also been sleeping better, for which I have been super thankful.
post #194 of 524
I forgot, Shay says yeah and no (pronounced new). Would you like to come inside with me? No. Very calm when he says it so far.
post #195 of 524

Levi still isn't talking. He's content with mama & dada( <---said to me and Billy), baba, nana, gaga. Should I be concerned that he's not saying anything else yet? Casey was tons of things clearly by 15 months. Levi is almost 14 months.

post #196 of 524

This friend of mine is definitely not natural-parenting-minded, so I'm proud of her for having nursed her baby for 4+ months and I tell her so all of the time. Nursing has been easy on her, albeit time-consuming, and she rarely if ever significantly complained about it -- so that's the most surprising thing of all in regards to her decision to stop breastfeeding. I was a complete basketcase while nursing Sora in those first few months! I can totally see why someone would stop nursing if it had been super difficult and bordering unhealthy for the mother, but not necessarily in my friend's case. Still, to each her own! My determination and concern for my baby's well-being was stronger than my desire to stop, plus I had all of you lovely ladies on here to help me get through the maaaaany rough patches! Support is a big deal. I truly am proud of her for making it this far. This is a friend who has literally no one around her locally who breastfeeds - none of her family or friends did it - and she even took her newborn to the ER in the beginning because she thought the baby had severe diarrhea... when it was just runny breastfed poo. Some people may laugh at that, but she really had no idea it was supposed to look like that! She's done well even if I feel in my heart she could totally go longer. She has thanked me many times for being an inspiration to her with nursing. smile.gif That made me feel good.

post #197 of 524

Anybody here know of a great food diary app for an Android phone?

post #198 of 524
Becky, I hear thirds tend to he later talkers (besides Coralie?).
post #199 of 524
Thread Starter 

I wouldn't be concerned at all, Becky!  Really, I would say, a child that isn't saying anything by 18 months and has no consistent words or phrases by 2 years is a cause for concern.  I was a bit worried about Austin b/c at age 2 most of his words were difficult to decipher. But I was told repeatedly that the fact that he had words and was trying to communicate was just fine for that age and normal for a boy.  Now at age three he has issues only with "s" and "f" and again I've been told this is normal and will likely resolve itself.  Each kid in their own time. 

 

Avery, on the other hand, has many more words than Austin had at this age so it will be interesting to see how his language develops- more like Avalon or more like Austin.

 

And, I think an important distinction to make is a baby that can repeat words (parroting) or identifies things with words on his own.  The former is what Avery is doing most of the time.  The latter is much more advanced.  So, I'll say "do you want to play with the tractor?" and he'll say "tractor?"  I would consider tractor one of his words, but he doesn't go up to the tractor and say "tractor" on his own.  This is true for many things.  He does say a few things on his own like "walkie" while he walks and sometimes "poop" when he needs to use the potty, but mostly he is chatting in his own language when he talks on his own.  Otherwise, he communicates with signs on his own like nurse and all done.

post #200 of 524
Joanie- I love MyFitnessPal!
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