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post #341 of 524

What's a good way to help a local friend who's spouse lost their main source of income and she just found out she's expecting? I want to help somehow, but not sure how. guilty.gif

post #342 of 524
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Originally Posted by Becky Wheeler View Post

What's a good way to help a local friend who's spouse lost their main source of income and she just found out she's expecting? I want to help somehow, but not sure how. guilty.gif

 

 

Do you have any baby stuff that is in good condition to hand down?  I just recently pooled donations for a local girl who was in need, and I got her everything she needed-  do you have a community of local moms you could ask for donations from?

post #343 of 524
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Do you have any baby stuff that is in good condition to hand down?  I just recently pooled donations for a local girl who was in need, and I got her everything she needed-  do you have a community of local moms you could ask for donations from?

No one knows she's pregnant yet. This was totally unexpected because she has PCOS and had a ton of trouble conceiving her first child. But I do have some stuff she can have and hopefully as soon as she announces, our AP group will help out.

post #344 of 524
Ash has good advice, Becky. I've got nothing to add... Sorry! How are things going for you with Billy and with sleeping?

Jaimee, how is Avery feeling after his fall??

Cute pic, Nicole!! Yay baby!!

Re: mini-pill. Huh. I have zero experience. The last time I took BCPs was in 1998. I stopped for some reason or another. Can't remember!

I took Jasper to the doctor again today. His ears are worse instead of better! Poor thing. He's had a fever for six days now. The doctor started him on a more powerful antibiotic. She said the fluid won't drain out of his ears until his sinus stuff clears up. Between the antibiotic and ibuprofen/ Tylenol, I feel like I am pumping him full of meds. greensad.gif He is pretty miserable. I've missed three days of work now, so dh will be taking off the next two.
post #345 of 524
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Ash has good advice, Becky. I've got nothing to add... Sorry! How are things going for you with Billy and with sleeping?

Jaimee, how is Avery feeling after his fall??

Cute pic, Nicole!! Yay baby!!

Re: mini-pill. Huh. I have zero experience. The last time I took BCPs was in 1998. I stopped for some reason or another. Can't remember!

I took Jasper to the doctor again today. His ears are worse instead of better! Poor thing. He's had a fever for six days now. The doctor started him on a more powerful antibiotic. She said the fluid won't drain out of his ears until his sinus stuff clears up. Between the antibiotic and ibuprofen/ Tylenol, I feel like I am pumping him full of meds. greensad.gif He is pretty miserable. I've missed three days of work now, so dh will be taking off the next two.

Sleep? Not much of it going on here. Well, for me, anyway. I had to stop exercising so I could reserve energy to half-way function. It's getting bad. I need to hit the reset button! I wish I could get two days without anyone around so I could catch up on sleep and make myself sleep at night. 

 

Yay, Nicole! I loved seeing my little beans on the screen when I had U/S. :)

 

Mini-pill: I took it until a month ago, when I got my period. It was great for us! I stopped taking it so I could track my cycles since I had finally gotten it back.

 

Jessica, I'm sorry about Jasper. :( I hope he gets better soon!

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Nicole, are you hoping for a boy or girl?

Amanda, ouch! I hope the new antibiotic is more effective.

Last night wasn't terrible. They went to bed at 7:30 unexpectedly. Soren woke at 8:45 and 10 looking for Sara and very sad for almost a minute until he woke fully, saw me and calmed down. After that he woke at 12, 3, Shay woke at 4 and they both woke at 6 and nursed for an hour. I'm thirsty!
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Amanda, so sorry to hear about J!  I hope the  meds work quickly and you're able to get him off the motrin/tylenol at least.  :(

 

Becky, I totally second the hand me down recommendation as well as setting up a meal train for her when the baby arrives.    You can also suggest small tasks/chores on the meal train for helping out around the house.

 

Avery did not sleep well at all last night- even for his low standards.  I think we slept from 1:30-3ish and I passed him off to dh at 5am and I slept until 7.  Yeah, great.  I didn't dawn on me that maybe he was sore/hurting until this morning.  But he's walking around fine, eating, moving his head side to side, so I don't know.  Post traumatic stress? He actually has a well baby this morning, so I'll ask the doctor if he sees anything concerning.

 

I've got another question for you ladies!  My good friend just had a baby about 1.5 weeks ago.  The labor was very hard on her and ended in a very unwanted c-section.  Breastfeeding was fine at first, but she was very anxious about it b/c her sister had recently had her first baby and has been struggling from the beginning with bad latch, nipple shields, and recurrent mastitis.  I tried to alleviate her anxiety, especially when it appeared that nursing was going well.  Then baby got a mild case of jaundice and then she started to worry that he wasn't getting enough milk.  Baby had a .5 week and 1.5 week appointment and only gained 1 oz in that time period.  She nursed him at the office with before and after weights and apparently he got a little less than 2 oz in a 45 minute session.  The doctor and the LLL leader she called are both telling her to pump between sessions and feed baby with an SNS and if she cannot pump enough to supplement, to give him formula.  She is exhausted and overwhelmed, of course! 

 

I'm calling her this morning to give her some support (support she asked me for) and I asked her if she wanted any advice.  I think she'll say yes and if she does, I need some pearls of wisdom and concrete things to try to say to her.  I figured I'd start with encouragement and remind her that her milk supply is still regulating.  I can recommend some Mother's Milk Tea and fenugreek, oatmeal, blessed thistle, etc.  I would recommend putting him to the breast frequently and listening for gulping sounds and feeling a let down.  I also wonder what other signs she should be looking for in terms of his weight being an issue?  I know they want babies to regain their birth weight by 2 weeks, but he was a healthy 8lbs9oz at birth and is currently 8lbs.   He gained an ounce in the last week, so I see no reason why he wouldn't continue on that trend now that he's over the jaundice and her milk has come in, etc.   So I guess, my gut tells me that he'll be fine if she is offering the breast frequently day and night.  She doesn't have any pain with nursing, suggesting his latch is fine and he's always had plenty of wet/dirty diapers.  Do you think it folly for me to suggest she not worry about pumping and using the SNS until his next appointment?  I honestly think that she will give up anyway and then think she must supplement with formula instead.  If I suggest just holding him and nursing him day and night until his 2 week appointment (or whenever her next one is) it's possible this strategy would feel more feasible to her than pumping/SNS and she might get her supply up and he might start gaining just fine.   I would recommend increased baby wearing to facilitate his desire to nurse.  They are co-sleeping and bedsharing sometimes.  I would reiterate the benefit of bedsharing for breastfeeding.

 

I would love to hear your thoughts before I call her in a couple hours!

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I recently asked elsewhere about boosting my supply. I was also encouraged to try goats rue in addition to all hose others. I had fenugreek in the house so I've been taking that but haven't noticed a change yet. I'm also drinking more water and making sure I eat enough.

I would pretty much encourage kangaroo care or what the doctor recommended. It's scary when your kid isn't growing.

If it brings her any comfort, you can tell her that Shay started out as a big boy. 9 pounds. He fell to 8.5 the first week and he wasn't up to birth weight at 2 weeks. He was tongue tied, we had it clipped at 1 day but it did damage my nipples. He wasn't gaining as much as the doctor wanted afterward, but he was gaining, so the doctor didn't worry about it. I can't believe I didn't write the weights down. We took daily weights for a long time because I was freaked out about it. He was 12.5 pounds at 5 weeks and 15 pounds at 7 weeks without pumping or supplementing (or taking any herbs) but nursing on demand around the clock, so it is totally possible to recover from a slow start if her milk is in. Shay only took about 2 ounces at a feeding until he was a few months old. I still don't pump more than 2 ounces per breast and I only feed on one side.

If she is able to pump the other side while nursing, she might try that. Pumping between feedings is a lot of work IMO.
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typing one-handed...

 

jaimee, i second the milkmaid tea...easy...suggest she get tea bags at store rather than possibly overwhelm her with hunting down herbs.  Make sure she is well nourished.  I would let the baby be my guide for a bit: periods of wakeful awareness, wet/poopy diapers, etc. before I would rely on weights.  Undress baby, tickle feet, tickle under chin to encourage nursing.  If she can express into burp towel and give baby good hindmilk might help with weight gain.

 

amanda, hugs!  hope J feels better soon.  poor baby!

 

nicole, u/s so sweet!!!!!
 

post #350 of 524
Oh, I wouldn't even mention babywearing yet. Unless she has a toddler to chase around, she should just stay in bed with him.
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Originally Posted by seraf View Post

Oh, I wouldn't even mention babywearing yet. Unless she has a toddler to chase around, she should just stay in bed with him.


agree.  she should be laying in, esp after c-section

post #352 of 524
Sara, boy.

Jaimee, no advice, but from someone who had a son that was in the 2nd percentile, tell her to not get discouraged, as hard as that may be. He IS gaining... Which is good.
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Oh, I wouldn't even mention babywearing yet. Unless she has a toddler to chase around, she should just stay in bed with him.

 

 

Yes!  Other than this, everything you mentioned Jaimee sounds just like what I would suggest-  its always so easy to say those things, but so hard to remember them in that exhausted moment when this tiny little being you are completely responsible for nourishing is not gaining weight properly.  Remind her that the "norm"  does not fit everyone (like Conner, Avalon, Bettie).

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Good, good!  Thank you all!!  I might have forgotten to mention hydration!  And expressing to get hindmilk... good!  That reminded me of the milk saver, too.  Good, I think this will be plenty of advice for now and I cross my fingers she can use it and power through.

post #355 of 524
I was going to mention the milk saver, but I forgot. If she isn't leaking, it won't do her much good, but I got 1-1.5 oz when I used it.
post #356 of 524
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Just got off the phone with her and I think it went well.  She seemed really open to the suggestions and relieved to hear the stories.  She also seemed encouraged by my support and ready to go get in bed with her baby and give it all a try.  Her gut was telling her he was fine.  She was totally blind sighted by the slow weight gain and they really freaked her out.  I tried to alleviate some of her fears and tell her to go with her gut.  The one concerning thing is that she doesn't feel a difference in how her breasts feel before and after a feeding and she doesn't feel a let down.  I told her that this (and her lack of leaking) could just be the way she is coupled with his slow start, but it could be a sign of a low milk supply that needs some boosting.  So she's getting the tea, she has fenugreek.  I told her about some of the other ideas and suggested a gallon of water a day and the pumping while nursing instead of between sessions.  Hopefully something starts working and by the time he's weighed next he's gained some more.  Her sister is dealing with PPD and that's making her anxious and sad as well.  A lot going on. 

post #357 of 524
For what it's worth, I never felt a difference either, and did not feel letdown until the 3rd kid. My breasts just got SO big. So very big. I'm not sure if breast size would make a difference in how your breast "felt" but I would believe it does.

I have lost 35 pounds. 10 of it was boob. I miss my boobs. Haha.
post #358 of 524
Sara can't feel a difference, either.
post #359 of 524
I didn't feel let down at first either. It was only around 4 months that let down got really really painful. greensad.gif
post #360 of 524
Add me to the list of people who didn't feel let down at first... I don't remember when I started feeling it, but I know it wasn't right away.
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