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How are you ladies doing??

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Happy Friday!

 

Guess what! Baby's placenta moved! The previa is *completely* resolved-- not even low-lying in just 4 weeks (from complete & centered!) We are very very thankful!

 

Also, gotta run bc I was "volunteered" to speak/ preach at a lady's day for several congregations-- that's tomorrow! Going now to review my notes.

 

Have a great weekend!

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Happy Friday!

 

Guess what! Baby's placenta moved! The previa is *completely* resolved-- not even low-lying in just 4 weeks (from complete & centered!) We are very very thankful!

 

 

WOW!!!!bow.gifJesus

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Also, gotta run bc I was "volunteered" to speak/ preach at a lady's day for several congregations-- that's tomorrow! Going now to review my notes.

I just re-read this. Can you tell us more?

 

I just want to come here to vent. Just came from church and I'm headscratch.gif I just don't get christians?? Why are people in the church so much into making people into a cookie cutter thing???

post #105 of 462

HI Nazsmum, I don't know what happened with you at church, so I can't comment there, although I understand the feeling-- we visited a congregation a couple hours away yesterday & yes, I left scratching my head...

 

Re the ladies' day, I could tell you anything you'd like to know. It went very well & I was relieved. I don't mind writing about God's word, but I never have felt comfortable "performing" even if it is only public speaking. I'm sure I looked down at my notes most of the time & that my delivery was lacking, but the message was solid & many ladies asked for my notes & discussed it later, so they heard good stuff despite my lackluster delivery & that is good. C:

 

I've only been asked to speak once before & I began by telling them I was not the right person for the job, hahaha! (Really-- I was asked to speak on parenting to a group about 1/2 with kids still home & 1/2 retiree age-- so I told them that NO ONE should think they've arrived as a parent 'til they see how their GRANDKIDS are turning out-- mine were between 4 yo & 15 yo at that time! & I also told them this was NOT an example of the "older women teaching the younger" & many of them should be teaching me! LOL)

 

I suspect I was asked bc the ladies at our cong put this together very quicly & didn't have time to find anyone with more experience, heehee! & maybe bc I have at least some education at a Christian school? ~shrug~ I would -hope- it's rather bc they think I have good things to say, based on scripture when opportunity arrises in Bible studies... but since I am the resident kook, I wouldn't count on it! C:

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It sound really cool!!! I would have loved to hear you speak. I could use some good parenting advise!

 

About the church. They believe and follow Ken Ham. Ken says that the foundation of the bible is Genesis? I'm I wrong? I have always been under the understanding that the GOSPEL/JESUS is the foundation. mum4vr please tell me if I'm wrong. (really)

 

What a day!!! I need some sleep.

post #107 of 462
@Nazsmum: I think both are correct. We can find Christ in Genesis. Through Him all things were created. The first prophesy of His coming is there (Eve's seed would crush the seed of the serpent). We find the promise of His coming made to Abraham also. The Gospel, it could be argued, begins in Genesis, and without understanding this first book it would be difficult to fully appreciate the Gospel and Christ's sacrifice made for men who rejected God from the very beginning. Everything Christ did for us *had* to be done for reasons only found in the first few chapters of Genesis.
Sorry this is so stiLted... typing on my phone. :/
post #108 of 462

ITA w Cantora.

 

I would add that I'm pretty concerned if a church claims to believe and follow Ken Ham, rather than believing and following Christ!

 

I also would add that it depends upon what one means by the "foundation" ... this could get into a very complex discussion regarding new covenant and old covenant (which I am up for, but may be better by PM with all those interested since it may kill the thread if ppl disagree strongly-- I am starting to recognize my propensity for thread killing early, you see, LOL)

 

I still don't think I'd volunteer parenting advice unless asked on a specific subject by friends (like when we all chimed in about sex talk & books w children) bc my oldest is still not 20 yo & I def have no grandchildren yet, hahaha! Plus, I -do- think some of my parenting advice would not go over big on mdc-- which is fine & I appreciate other opinions, but I've learned better than to stick my neck out SSSOOO far that it can't help but get chopped C:

 

My most recent talk was on Getting Ready, about the bride symbolism in scripture & how it applies to believers today, a subject I am much more comfortable taking a public stand on! (bc about the time you become a parenting expert, you have a prodigal on your hands to show all the world you know nothing about parenting! I -do- know it's not that simple, but ppl see what they see...)

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@Nazsmum: I think both are correct. We can find Christ in Genesis. Through Him all things were created. The first prophesy of His coming is there (Eve's seed would crush the seed of the serpent). We find the promise of His coming made to Abraham also. The Gospel, it could be argued, begins in Genesis, and without understanding this first book it would be difficult to fully appreciate the Gospel and Christ's sacrifice made for men who rejected God from the very beginning. Everything Christ did for us *had* to be done for reasons only found in the first few chapters of Genesis.
Sorry this is so stiLted... typing on my phone. :/

Thanks.

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ITA w Cantora.

 

I would add that I'm pretty concerned if a church claims to believe and follow Ken Ham, rather than believing and following Christ!

 

I also would add that it depends upon what one means by the "foundation" ... this could get into a very complex discussion regarding new covenant and old covenant (which I am up for, but may be better by PM with all those interested since it may kill the thread if ppl disagree strongly-- I am starting to recognize my propensity for thread killing early, you see, LOL)

 

I still don't think I'd volunteer parenting advice unless asked on a specific subject by friends (like when we all chimed in about sex talk & books w children) bc my oldest is still not 20 yo & I def have no grandchildren yet, hahaha! Plus, I -do- think some of my parenting advice would not go over big on mdc-- which is fine & I appreciate other opinions, but I've learned better than to stick my neck out SSSOOO far that it can't help but get chopped C:

 

My most recent talk was on Getting Ready, about the bride symbolism in scripture & how it applies to believers today, a subject I am much more comfortable taking a public stand on! (bc about the time you become a parenting expert, you have a prodigal on your hands to show all the world you know nothing about parenting! I -do- know it's not that simple, but ppl see what they see...)

First I KILL THREADS (LOL)

 

The whole New/Old we could talk about in religious studies. Or maybe we can talk about it here? I'm not sure of the rules??

 

The other thing is that I have a very big problem with AIG!! I just do. I think that they need to go tell about Jesus to really scientist and college prof. I don't see why it is so imporant to debate with Ave Joe about the age of the Earth or anyother science. PEOPLE are living without Jesus and that is the most imporant thing!!

 

As far as going to church. I really don't like going to church anymore. Most of the Body of Messiah has walked far away from the Lord Jesus. We so need to get back to simple faith in Jesus.

 

SORRY FOR MISTKES kids all over me...

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The other thing is that I have a very big problem with AIG!! I just do. I think that they need to go tell about Jesus to really scientist and college prof. I don't see why it is so imporant to debate with Ave Joe about the age of the Earth or anyother science. PEOPLE are living without Jesus and that is the most imporant thing!!

 

As far as going to church. I really don't like going to church anymore. Most of the Body of Messiah has walked far away from the Lord Jesus. We so need to get back to simple faith in Jesus.

 

last first...

 

I agree that the body/ bride of Christ is not consistently behaving as the body & bride in our time, but at the same time, there are small pockets of those who strive to. The cong where I attend does-- it's made of human beings & thus is not perfect; we have our problems & our areas for growth, but what we all have in common is that we do strive to be members of the body as described in scripture. This is the blessing and the universal problem with churches-- they are made up of *people*! (So, as the old joke goes, if you do find the perfect one-- DON'T go there! You're human & you'll mess it up!)

 

Re AIG-- I am not a super-expert on them by any means, but my guess (and my hope since I don't want to assign a bad motive without evidence) is that they debate things related to scripture to draw people in for a closer look. I can see how believing in a literal Genesis account can really change one's world view! I can positively say that such discussions were a critical part of my DH leaving atheism and becoming a Christian years ago. He is a very precise & studious person, so much of his faith in atheism was based on scientific fact... of course, when he was challenged to -REALLY- examine the science & to view some debates on it, he found his old beliefs just didn't hold water and weren't even founded on the scientific method! I guess sometimes in order to share about Christ with someone, you must start where they are & with the things that interest them spiritually, and eventually get to Truth. I would hope that is why AIG does what it does, but again, I'm no expert & I personally don't use their materials... I have just seen similar things be effective.

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I will be back later. baby going crazyenergy.gif

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About the church and people--- OK! YES! I know that we are people. I know that we are all sinners! I know and I AM A SINNER!  It is just that the church has gone crazy with so many different "things". Instead of the one focus being Jesus and His worship. It is so hard to find a good church.

 

As far a AIG-- I know that they are a REF for defending the faith based on science. Also Hank Hanagraph has a book I would like to get on sceince. Anyother point of view beside Ken Ham.

 

My problem is that AIG is ttttoooo much focused on Genesis. The sunday school lessons from Sept till now have only covered Day 1 to 3 maybe? And they make big deal over social issues like marriage. To me this is not SS.

 

I have many problem with this church. I'm not the only one. Many of the people have thanked me for speaking up. The problem is that the church members need to make the real change. Not sure if they will.

 

My husband is starting to come around. But my 7yr  and 4yr feel safe and are settled in at the moment and I really don't want to just PULL them right now. So I want the church to change. I keep praying for the Lord to give the Pastor (whom I feel friends with) the hutzpah to do something. praying.gif

 

It is ssssooo hard in this area to find a good church. Most of them are just like this one. I know many sheep that I keep intouch with. Some times we get together to talk about the Lord and I have Wayne. Lets talk about Jesus is my real church. It is a church without walls! We can come together and worship and learn.luxlove.gif Simple.

 

I would LOVE to start a church in my home. I really would. Maybe one day I will.

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How was everyones weekend? We went to the Jersey shore. WOW! They did a lot of work!!surf.gif

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About the church and people--- OK! YES! I know that we are people. I know that we are all sinners! I know and I AM A SINNER!  It is just that the church has gone crazy with so many different "things". Instead of the one focus being Jesus and His worship. It is so hard to find a good church.

 

As far a AIG-- I know that they are a REF for defending the faith based on science. Also Hank Hanagraph has a book I would like to get on sceince. Anyother point of view beside Ken Ham.

 

I feel your pain on trying to find a faithful church!

 

As far as others who defend the faith based on science... you ever looked at Brad Harrub's work with Focus Press? You may find it more balanced & also, I think he does give a more complete view by taking it full circle to why it is so important (like bc it points to the Truth re Christ).

 

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I have many problem with this church. I'm not the only one. Many of the people have thanked me for speaking up. The problem is that the church members need to make the real change. Not sure if they will.

 

My husband is starting to come around. But my 7yr and 4yr feel safe and are settled in at the moment and I really don't want to just PULL them right now. So I want the church to change. I keep praying for the Lord to give the Pastor (whom I feel friends with) the hutzpah to do something. praying.gif

 

It is ssssooo hard in this area to find a good church. Most of them are just like this one. I know many sheep that I keep intouch with. Some times we get together to talk about the Lord and I have Wayne. Lets talk about Jesus is my real church. It is a church without walls! We can come together and worship and learn.luxlove.gif Simple.

 

I would LOVE to start a church in my home. I really would. Maybe one day I will.

 

It seems like it could be positive that others recognize the problem & want change; it may be the first step. Is there a ladies' study/ group where you could share your concerns & see what other ladies can/ will do?

 

Re: a home church, I have offered to host one myself! Looking back, I'm glad we didn't proceed, but it seemed like the only option at the time.

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I just give up. I really do. The woman that runs the women's ministry is no different then the men. I'm just sad about it all.

 

I will check out Focus Point- Thanks.

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Hi there. I'm sorta new around these parts. :)

I was looking for a "Christian" group to belong to of like-minded (or at least politely interested) ladies.

I have 12 and 9 year old girls and we are expecting another one in Oct./Nov.

It is hard to say what sort of spiritual/denominational "bent" I have.

I don't follow a particular church per se.

My husband is a baptist minister and I attended services with him, though they believe quite differently than I do.

I guess, to put it simply, I follow the Way of Jesus Christ.

It is not extremely popular these days but . . . . .

I think it is important to focus on the Son of God and what He taught about the Father and to strive to do likewise.

I live and dress modestly and often cover my head.

I have friends who are Anabaptist, Mennonite, and Messianic.

Anyway. . . . .I wondered if there was a certain place to join a "christian" group or if this was it ?
I notice that the Agnostics have one. . . .

:)

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Welcome momgenet !!!! Jump right in.wave.gifWe are one in Messiah.

 

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Shabbot Shalom to you as well.

:)

Please pray for me.

I have a doctor appt for me on Monday that I am nervous about.

First of all, we've been having trouble with our car and so just GETTING to the appt is in question. :(

Second of all. . .I am 15 weeks preg. It is my third child.

I am over 40 so there was some concern right off the bat. That and some pretty hefty bleeding at week 8.

I felt this one first move at 13 weeks. If felt like a basketball game going on down there!!! Then ?

Nothing.

Nothing much (I think?) for a couple weeks.

I know it is early but I am thinking I should have felt more by now?

 

Anyway. . . .I am nervous, though trying to keep the faith and know that we walk by faith and not by what we see.

But. . . .its hard right now. . . .

:(

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Shabbot Shalom to you as well.

:)

Please pray for me.

I have a doctor appt for me on Monday that I am nervous about.

First of all, we've been having trouble with our car and so just GETTING to the appt is in question. :(

Second of all. . .I am 15 weeks preg. It is my third child.

I am over 40 so there was some concern right off the bat. That and some pretty hefty bleeding at week 8.

I felt this one first move at 13 weeks. If felt like a basketball game going on down there!!! Then ?

Nothing.

Nothing much (I think?) for a couple weeks.

I know it is early but I am thinking I should have felt more by now?

 

Anyway. . . .I am nervous, though trying to keep the faith and know that we walk by faith and not by what we see.

But. . . .its hard right now. . . .

:(

 

praying.gif With my 3rd it was ssssoooo different. So maybe the same for you?

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