Taking The Scenic Route to a BFP - Winter/Spring 2013 Edition - Page 12

[MindlessChrissy]

Just a quick drive by. Be back with personals later.

Here's todays test:

[SilaMarila]

Jpack - Crap. I am so sorry. It really pisses me off that we not only struggle for so long just to conceive, but that when we do a lot of us have experienced these early losses. I hate it.

Chrissy - Same to you. 

Hugs all around.

[SKJ2011]

Oh Chrissy I'm so so sorry. I just don't know what to say. Life is just cruel sometimes. I'm so sad for you. My heart is breaking.

[indie1976]

dammit. chrissy i wish i could give you a hug IRL. i'm just so sorry. i don't even know what to say.

[indie1976]

so i was mistaken about my monitoring appt. it was today not tomorrow! thankfully i figured it out early enough that i was able to still get in this morning at the other office. i have one follicle at 19.5. my lining is 7.5. will have E2
results this afternoon but it's looking very likely that i will trigger tonite... on cd8 and have iui in cd 10. that's way early right? ugh. trying to not get worked up. it is what it is. i was expecting one follicle due to letrozole and low dose fsh but i wasn't expecting to trigger so early. i'm reading different things about lining... some say 8 minimum is good, someone else says ccrm says anywhere from 7 to 9... i guess i'm just wondering if i should go thru with iui or just trigger and bd if the situation is not ideal... might call nurse... any thoughts?

[MindlessChrissy]

Indie - Wish I could help you out but I know nothing about iui.


Jpack - Sarcasm is my friend. Lol How are you doing today?

Chourd - Your post sounds so upbeat. I love it.

Afm - Thanks for the virtual hugs. I just feel like running outside and screaming from the rooftops. Well if anything good comes from this it's I can have sex whenever without wonder. Lmao

[toothfairy2be]

indie- 7.5 is probably fine for how early you are and it should continue to grow and have plenty of time to be thicker before implantation would occur. As far as 1 follicle at CD8 that is already 19.5, it is early but not so early that I would be overly concerned. It is up to you if you want to do the IUI or not. DH has had an SA that is normal, right? I think with 1 follicle it can't make too much difference with healthy sperm whether to do IUI or not. One healthy strong egg is all you need and that could be the one! The most important thing is a good environment for them to grow! Any advice from your nurse/doctor?

Chrissy- I am so sorry. So much disappointment and heartache going on here. Virtual hug from me too. I hope you're getting plenty IRL from your husband and son.

JPack- Still crossing my fingers your 2nd beta shows something different but I know with the right guidance you are going to make this happen (and I am going to get to enjoy your company though the whole thing!). 

Chourd- I'm in awe every time you post. You have such a good attitude and so much information that is so different from anything we have had here. It is nice to get perspective from 'alternative' forms of treatment! Very exciting about her predictions for the coming month!!

SKJ- This is the thing with doctors, they are never on the same page. It feels like they have no perspective for anything other than whatever they have trained themselves to believe. There is no way what you are going through isn't hormonal. If you look at any of your history (or simply the research that supports it) it is clear that A + B = C. It is good there is no underlying conditions causing your miscarriages that cannot be controlled. That means with this fantastic new doctor they will find the protocol for you that strengthens your eggs and give you a healthy one to have a full healthy pregnancy with. We all have so much faith in your new doctor and for your perseverance to make this happen. I would take what that cranky doctor said as peace of mind that as soon as you are making healthy eggs you will have a baby. Chromosomal issues I thought (did someone else say this??) usually cause later miscarriages, like 9-12 weeks, not 5 weeks. I always thought early miscarriages were egg quality/lining/progesterone, which all go back to hormones... So interesting about the HCG shot and then the boost shot. Can't wait for you to get started. How does it look like things are lining up now with your travel?

AFM- I went in for blood work this morning but I'm of course feeling a little freaked out. My tests from Monday night and Tuesday morning are noticably darker than last night (when I know I was super hydrated) and this morning (would my urine still be more dilute overnight??). I also have barely any symptoms now. The cramping has subsided (which I stress for anyone looking for what implantation cramping after IVF feels like, I hesitate to call 'cramping' at all because it was so dull in strength compared to period cramps like I expected), my boobs are still sore but my nipples don't feel like anything, my appetite is still off. It is like there is no balance between symptoms and no symptoms, when I had them I felt crappy and wanted to feel better and now that I don't I feel scared. No win. I won't really know anything until my repeat blood work on Friday, right?

[TenzinsMama]

jpack and chrissy, I'm so sorry. Wishing you peace and healing...

SKJ, I do remember you from the other other thread. I'm sorry that it is taking this long for #2. It seems like you are really getting to know what is going on, albeit there are frustrations with the doc thing. Thanks for sharing all that you have learned during the process, I'm learning so much from you already.

TF, I don't know much about POAS, as I haven't done it much so I don't know what happens with the lines and all that with multiple tests... Do they get back to you about today's beta or do you have to wait until the 2nd one on Friday?  I do know, however, that it is very common for symptoms to come and go... I had that with both pregnancies, especially early on it seems to be something that changes with the wind. All those crazy hormonal shifts, it's no wonder, I guess. It's so hard not to worry though, isn't it-- I totally get it.  You are such a pillar of strength for everyone on here (and the other threads-- I feel like I've come to know you through all this time!) and I know that you taking care of yourself in every way possible so I don't need to say that... oh, I just wish I could make this time easier for you!  I dread this time period for myself, because we no longer have our innocence about pregnancy, with all the IF stuff, heh.  Hang in there!

[toothfairy2be]

My numbers are in. HCG was 92.5, progesterone was only 6.28. I'm totally freaked out and trying not to cry. 

[SKJ2011]

Tf- are you on crinone? Did they say anything about the numbers? I'm sorry you are worried. I know that feeling well. I think things can turn around if they change or increase your progesterone. I'm sending good thoughts your way.

[indie1976]

toothfairy - i'm sitting here trying to figure out what to say. and i know there just nothing to do other than wait for that second beta. there has been such a rush of bad news in the last day or so that i refuse to believe that there can be any more. and you had a 5 day transfer. that's the strongest and healthiest embaby possible. what did your RE's office say? I know that vaginal progesterone doesn't show up in bloodwork and i'm assuming you are on a boatload because of IVF. i am sending so much love to your little one. i know we all are. have you run across anyone on the IVF thread that has had a similar situation?

[toothfairy2be]

The more I sit here the more I feel like its gone. With lighter tests & no symptoms. I just want up be put out of my misery. I can't believe this is happening.

[SilaMarila]

TF - Hugs. I'm sorry you are in the waiting game. Did the RE's office say anything to you about the results? I'm also wondering what kind of progesterone you are on?

[SKJ2011]

Indie - hmm. That is early, but I think that is common when on ovulation inducing drugs when you ovulate at a normal time on your own. I O'ed early (CD 11) on Clomid. My thought is that if the follicle is the right size and your lining is good, which 7.5 sounds pretty good since it will be higher tomorrow, then the cycle day doesn't really matter, right? My understanding is that the lining should be at least 8 at trigger, so you sound right on track. Can you email your doc to get her thoughts?

TF - Again, I'm so sorry you are freaked out about your numbers. I hope you get some answers and that your next beta is through the roof. You just deserve this more than anyone.

Thanks so much for your reassurances. You really made me feel so much better about things. So, when people say poor egg quality, do you know what that means? From all my reading, I guess I"m confused b/t egg quality and weak ovulation. Egg quality, I thought, had to do with chromosomal issues, but I think I'm wrong. I'm hoping that my eggs are OK, they just need some hormonal help, which is what I think weak ovulation is, right?

Tenzin - Thanks. It's been a really, really hard journey that I never expected to be on. I'm pretty scared of getting pregnant again and go back and forth about pushing forward with #2 and just counting my blessings. Did you meet with your RE yet?

Chrissy - Sending you lots of hugs friend.

Jpack - I stalked your chart and I see your temp is back up. Have you gotten your second beta back yet? Hoping so hard that you have good news.

Sila - hi friend.

[pokeyAC]

Threadcrashing to send some encouragement and faith to Toothfairy!  I read along on this thread, and I was so happy for your good news.  Your beta number was good and as others have said, the urine tests might not be the best gauge.  I had symptoms at 10DPO which I think was when I had implantation, and then the symptoms went away for a little while before they came back again and stayed.  I thought I was going to get a BFN.  I didn't have any breast or nipple soreness for a while after my BFP, and the cramping went away too.  Sometimes having few symptoms is not a bad thing.  The fact that your appetite is still off is good.  Sending prayers for a great second beta!

[SilaMarila]

Oh TF, intuition can be a bitch. Hugs x 100000000000. 

[MindlessChrissy]

Major mucho huge gigantic hugs to you, TF.

[jpack]

Chrissy Again, I'm so, so sorry babe. You're amazing to get through all this!

Indie I'm sorry its early, but I triggered after I had one at 19. I think it was the next day - no,two days later I think.

SKJ thanks for chart-stalking! ANd thanks for what you said yesterday. Yes, I was trying to keep my optimism completly out of my mind. Still doing it!

TF you know how bummed I am for you that the progesterone was not ideal, but I'm still full of hope for you! I just think the progesterone stays super localized, doing what it needs to right there and not in your arm! Sending a big hug, though and hope you manage to make it through tomorrow ok. Maybe I will see you Friday... I've been waking up really early. :)

AFM so..  my beta was 106 this morning, prog 13.9. What the hell? not high enough to elicit even a little optimism, but not low enough to have confirmation its gone! the nurse was SO unhelpful, she was like a robot which made me totally nervous. "Come back again Friday morning, keep taking your prenatals" WTH? Anyway, this is feeling ridiculous. I was so ready to move on, now I'm just stuck in this place for another 48 hours.... which is not so bad, I'll make it through - 48 hours...

Question, if you were me, would you take the left-over prometrium from the last miscarriage? last time after I started it, my beta tripled, and everything went swimmingly until there was no pole. I have enough left for about three weeks. My RE seems to have a bias against progesterone supplementation when I asked months ago, I didn't ask the nurse today, but she wasn't phased by my progesterone level. Anyway, and advice would be appreciated.

Hugs to all - we need to change the direction of this ship!

[chuord]

Chrissy, I'm really sorry that you are suffering this again... Bc I joined late I'm not sure, have you tried getting the tests done that SKJ, indie and a few others have done? Maybe there is a way to help protect the next one thru the early stages... Huge hugs, I hope you have a treat you can give yourself to help ease the pain.

Indie - I'm not familiar with the process you've been thru, but reading everyone's thoughts and going with my gut instinct I still think you have a very good chance this month 😃... Just remember that trick about having an orgasm to make sure the swimmers are propelled in the right direction! (sorry tmi)

TF - I'm sorry the results are not as strong as you would like, please stay positive - I did energy on your embaby 2hrs ago and it was still absorbing it. Have faith that it is meant to be.

Jpack - I'm sorry you are in no mans land! Like TF I did some energy on your embaby 2 hrs ago and it was still absorbing too... My fingers, toes and eyes are crossed for both of you!
SKJ, sila, tenzin - hello 😃 and hugs... Hoping you have a happy time thru to the next O

[MsDolphin]

Indie - I think you should go ahead with the IUI, you can also BD right after the IUI. Hopefully one or the other will take,

Chrissy - sorry! ((hugs))

jpack and TF - sending you good vibes, still hoping for he best for you.

AFM - AF showed up this morning. I am so disappointed. I have yet to call RE office to let them know, we have to decide what step, if any, we want to do next.  We don't know what we want to do, another try with IUI or do IVF. Our biggest uncertainty is if we want to send the money and it not take. I wish there was a guaranty.  *sigh*