Chrissy - Some people say they do. I think they are just very very sensitive. Especially if it was within the directed time. I *think* I can maybe see something on those tests, so I would guess your hcg is close to 0.
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Taking The Scenic Route to a BFP - Winter/Spring 2013 Edition - Page 21post #401 of 15192/1/13 at 10:53amThread Starterpost #402 of 15192/1/13 at 11:14ampost #403 of 15192/1/13 at 12:06pmThread Starterpost #404 of 15192/1/13 at 2:13pmChrissy - Are you testing out the post-m/c hcg? If I stare at a wondfo long enough, I always see something even if it's negative.
TF - I so wish you didn't have to worry about all of the first trimester worries. They suck so bad. I'm thinking good thoughts for you and hope you get to a place where you can just enjoy being pregnant.
Chuord - Glad you had a nice time with DH. And, intersting about the psychic. I think of going to one often, but I'm too scared for what she might say.
AFM - So, I just got my labs from today. My lining was down to around 9, but my u/s showed I clearly ovulated. I'm about 6 DPO and my progesterone was 2! So, serious LP defect going on over here. I haven't had an LP off of progesterone in over a year, but after DD was born, my LP ranged from 7 - 12 days. Looks like I'm at the 7 day mark this cycle. I'm already feeling crampy. I have another appt for Tuesday morning or CD 3, whichever comes first. The chromosome tests aren't back yet, so the doctor can't give a recommendation on what to do this coming cycle until those are in. I have an appt with her for February 15. She also wants me to have a saline u/s b/c she saw a shadow on my HSG. So, looks like this month is out too. I'm just so over the waiting. I'm torn b/t hating to wait and never wanting to try again.post #405 of 15192/1/13 at 2:14pmpost #406 of 15192/1/13 at 2:33pmSila and SKJ - thank you both. I went ahead and tested with a dollar store and it's snow white bfn. So, yay for that. Lol Started getting a tad concerned especially with all the spotting I'm doing.
Eta - I thought after all the bleeding and such associated with mc that the hcg would be gone or not far off from gone. I'm on cd17 and just figured it'd be gone now.
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SKJ- With a 7 day LP it sounds like she certainly has something to work with. When do you see her to go over the test results and get a plan? Do you get spotting before AF too or just a short LP? I thought you'd had saline u/s done before.
Chrissy- We will be watching but don't have a team to cheer for... I don't know much about HCG being present and ovulation other than what I have seen happen on here, that you can def. still ovulate with HCG present. I think that is one thing that makes pregnancy more likely after m/c, the presence of HCG makes a stronger egg. Some doctors do HCG shots in the LP to increase your chances so it can't hurt anyway.
chourd- Congrats to your DH! Is he looking for a position close to where you are now or will you be re-locating? That is so interesting about his friend who practices medicine and acupuncture. I think that is the benefit of homeopaths, you get that balance. Hope it works out that DH is home for O!
Sila- Your acupuncturist can probably help with the jaw pain too. A few years ago mine showed me pressure points on my arm that work almost immediately to reduce jaw pain, I still use them when I get headaches or just know I've been grinding. Is the chiropractor helping? Jaw pain really is the worst, I hope you are feeling better soon!
indie, gtree, bebe-
AFM- Trying to make the switch to enjoying that so far my first trimester has been easy symptom wise and stop worrying. Our u/s isn't until Friday so 5 more days.post #410 of 15192/4/13 at 5:43pmpost #411 of 15192/5/13 at 1:40amLol! Sorry TF... I've been thinking the same thing... Have been meaning to get on the computer do I could do proper personals... But I'm on my phone again! I'm so impressed at your cheerful attitude, you managed to turn the worry off - I know the u/s will be fine - but cant wait for another pic! re DH job, we are lucky that he is in one of those industries where if you have the right population or catchment you can set up anywhere (assuming its not crowded!) So he is aiming to apply for a public job for 2 days a week and paying more than he earns now full time with heaps of oncall, and also develop a private referral base. with maybe a few locum jobs between now and then lol (I read 'roadtrip' and 'holiday' as I would be joining in )
msD, tenzins, sila, Chrissy, Hope you are all well?
Skj - I know re the psychic, I'm careful to ask for guidance rather than absolutes... Knowing there will be 2 more children was a big relief... When at Uni I did have a termination (apologies for mentioning) I was almost convinced I would never have any children as punishment - so I can forgive myself (a little) now.
Indie - how are you doing? Are you still in the game?
Afm - dh is currently 'between jobs' so we are spending lots of time together... Lol a laugh for everyone - we bought a 'dremel' (small multi tool) to take down the coast so dh could repair his mums dentures! He made her new ones, but she is still wearing the one her father made for her (eeww)
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hi ladies! sorry, i haven't been posting (but it looks like i'm not the only one!). loved your temper tantrum emoticon, toothfairy! ha!
TF - I love your attitude! I keep thinking about how your mom thought she had lost you and for the longest time didn't realize she was still pregnant and I think maybe you are just blessed to not have terrible symptoms. how awesome is that? i also think that after going through so many rounds of medications for all this time... we are all probably pretty confused? immune? to the symptoms and side effects. i keep going back to my m/c and how my body changed so rapidly and i knew i was pregnant way before a positive pregnancy test... and now... i have felt every symptom in the book for so many cycles... i think i will also be one who feels very little when it actually happens. i was so much more in touch with my body pre-IF treatments. so excited for friday!!! what are you doing to keep yourself busy until then? i think i'd be climbing the walls...
Chuord - that's hilarious about your dh fixing his mom's dentures! how handy! :) it's interesting what you said about having to forgive ourselves... in my hypnosis session the therapist did this whole forgiveness exercise where i was surrounded by everyone in my life that i needed to forgive on some level. i was doing fine with that until she included me in that circle... and then i felt the tears coming. i can't point back to any specific instance i need to forgive myself for but i do struggle with forgiving myself for not having my life "figured out" earlier. i don't know what exactly i'd go back and change and i know that i didn't meet dh until i met him... so how can i change that? but it's hard not feeling like i've done something wrong to make myself deserve this. so i'm meditating on forgiving myself and hoping that will open up some space inside.
Chrissy - did you O?? where are you at in your cycle now?
Skj - waiting is the worst. i'm looking forward to hearing about your next monitoring appointment. and seeing you soon!
Jpack - are you back from your disney vacation?? i'm so sad our schedules didn't line up to meet! i am determined to find a conference to attend in boston so i can meet the MA chicks!
Everyone else - hope to hear from everyone soon
AFM - the post-holiday lull is definitely over. life has gotten super busy all of the sudden. i'm thankful to have a few minutes of peace to catch up before heading back to chicago. i'm 17dpo today. i took progesterone up through 15dpo to keep AF at bay long enough so i will be back in town to make my monitoring appointments and don't have to figure out how to travel with refrigerated meds. it's working, though i'm a bit shocked that i'm not spotting or anything so far. i've read that sometimes it can take up to 5 days or so to start AF after stopping progesterone so i'm thinking that might be my situation this time. unless i have a rare experience of just starting my period with no warning. but that never happens.post #413 of 15192/5/13 at 8:14amTF - How are you felling these days?
Chourd - awesome that your DH fixed her dentures. Saves money.
Indie - hope af comes when you want her to.
Shell, skj, bebe, gtree - hi ladies. Hope all is well.
Sorry if I missed anyone.
Afm - how long until hcg is out of system? On cd20 and have no odea about o as opks go light/dark/light/dark. Also been wasting hpt's to test out hormones. Following picture is my life in days. Looks gone yesterday but there today? Cd16 - cd20:post #414 of 15192/5/13 at 10:40amChrissy - With my D and C, I had HCG in my system for about 6 weeks after the procedure. With each of my early losses, the HCG was gone about 2 weeks later. I think it really depends on how your body metabolizes hormones and how high your levels were. Wondfo's are very sensitive in my experience, so I'd say you are nearly at zero.
Indie - I totally relate to forgiving yourself. For me, it's just easy to blame myself, even if there is nothing to blame. I think it's great that you are working on this. Sometimes it's just hard to feel all the sadness that comes with this journey and it's easier to blame yourself, even if you did nothing wrong.
I'm glad your timing is working out this cycle and that we can hopefully meet up again! What progesterone are you on? It sounds like just what I need
chuord - That's a good idea about guidance vs absolutes. I did go to see a spiritual healer in Brasil and he told me I'd have two more children, another girl and then a boy. He said it would happen soon and didn't mention any issues. That was over a year ago. I wish he was right...
Glad you are getting some quality time with DH and that he's so handy
TF - I love the new attitude. I had a pretty easy pg with DD. I did have some nausea, but I think it was later on, like at 8 weeks or so?
I do get spotting before AF. This cycle, I had one day of red spotting and then AF started.
AFM - I had my CD 3 baselines today. They did and u/s to check for cysts and to see if my lining was thinning. All was looking good. I'm glad they didn't do an AFC, b/c I really don't want to know what it is. They should call this afternoon with blood work results. I'm dreading hearing them. I'm really worried all my numbers are going to be terrible and there is going to be nothing the doc can do for me. I know - so melodramatic.
I have the saline u/s scheduled for Friday. I'm traveling from Sunday - Wednesday, which is CD 8 - 11. Still haven't gotten a plan, if any, for this cycle. So, I'm just going to assume we are sitting it out. Looks like maybe I'll be destined to have an xmas baby...post #415 of 15192/5/13 at 11:38amchrissy - never used wondofos before but i also had hcg in my system for 30 days after d&c... it is strange that you had a negative then a positive though... do you know if you ovulated yet and how long ago? hmmm...
skj - glad everything checked out at your appt. i feel you on the waiting for numbers thing... ugh. i hope it's ok but i've just started imaging you with a christmas baby
afm - in ATL. scared to get to chicago. what am i supposed to do with snow???post #416 of 15192/5/13 at 12:01pmSkj - hope you've heard back by now. Waiting is a bitch. A Christmas baby would be great!!
Indie - I don't like snow and yet we habe had more this year then usual. Hope your trip is easy.
I don't know when I o'ed. The opks never gave it up. Lol Normally 14/17 so I'm either 7dpo or 3dpo. Dh asked me "why did it go away and come back?" Glad to know I'm not seeing things. Guess I'll see what tomorrow brings. Never used these tests before, either. Maybe I should get some frer.post #417 of 15192/5/13 at 1:04pmThread Starter
SKJ - Wow, your cycle was so short. You were done before I even ovulated. I hope your RE can help. I'm sorry it looks like you will have to sit another one out...
TF - My acupuncturist did help with the pain! But I haven't gone since after Christmas. It seems to my chiropractor that my jaw pain is a result of problems in my neck. Stay busy and distracted my friend! Are you going to start interviewing midwives? Sorry I waited to post until I knew for sure I ovulated this time. I was afraid to jinx it.
Chrissy - Maybe your body tried to ovulate then didn't?
Indie - Wow that will be one heck of an lp then. Ha I love your response to snow. Hate the stuff.
Chuord - Is your DH a dentist?
AFM - So I FINALLY ovulated. CD31 so I'm 2dpo. I hope the next 12 days go by quickly.I called my RE to say we're ready. The nurse is going to call in my meds. I'll call with CD1 and go in on CD3. I'm excited that it's finally time and finally feel at peace with either outcome. I'm glad we waited.post #418 of 15192/5/13 at 1:05pmchrissy - Thanks! My first post-m/c cycle is a lot like you describe. It was totally confusing and the only reason I know I O'ed is b/c I was charting.
Indie - At least the snow is pretty
AFM - So, I still love my doc. The nurse just called and said, "Your numbers are within normal range. They are all low." I think they tested E2, LH, FSH, and maybe P4? In any event, I'm happy that they are in normal range AND more importantly, that they didn't tell me the actual numbers b/c that would have made me google and that's no good. I love being kept in the dark b/c there is nothing I can do to change the numbers anyways. So, now I wait for my saline u/s on Friday and hope the rest of my blood work is back then so I can see if we can give this cycle a shot.post #419 of 15192/5/13 at 1:08pmSila - Yay for O and moving forward!! This is sooo exciting. And, I'm so glad that you are feeling good about waiting and stuff. I know, my cycle was only 20 days. Shortest one of my entire life. It freaks me out b/c I know they get shorter as you approach menopause, but I'm hoping that since my FSH and E2 aren't elevated, mine is just short b/c I only had a 7 day LP! Grr!post #420 of 15192/5/13 at 1:19pmThread Starter
SKJ - I think my hormone issues may be opposite of yours. The front half is messed up. But, I have always had a textbook 14 day lp. I'm starting to think that my losses are a result of this and that I'm just not maturing eggs properly. That maybe my progesterone is fine but my body knows these eggs where no good. I'm hoping the injectables change that! I'll be on progesterone for the first time ever too though. I like that they didn't give you the numbers and I'm glad you aren't currently going google crazy. Your blood work hasn't shown you are approaching menopause right?
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