Wow so much has been on here in the last day (woohoo)!
Sila - I laughed reading about your tough girl thing with injections - and am so glad they didn't hurt (I am a complete pansy when it comes to injections.. my DH when doing my teeth gives me that gel to numb my gums before putting in the injection!) I'm so excited about your 2 healthy looking follies, the on track lining, and that the 75 is enough for you - woohoo bring on a great cycle!
TF - I understand why they didn't automatically do an u/s, I just figured after they knew your path that they would have added it as an extra. Although I agree with Sila the fact they are treating you as normal is a good sign! My friend who got pregnant with her third ivf felt naked, she said once she got to 12 weeks all the probing testing and checking stopped and it was a stark change that required some adjusting to. (she's a social worker who had worked in some intense lock down institutions lol so its funny what freaks you out).
Jpack - that 'friend' probably needs a swift slap lol - seriously though, a lot of my friends (that I don't catch up with that often) told me around 4 months and didn't discuss anything else - almost the reverse lol I have been left out of the game for so long... At the same time I would feel jealous and cry a bit each time I found out, all except for Ursula and her ivf baby - I was nothing but happy. So I too love being here amongst people that don't judge, but just support and care through the journey. One sweet couple we see have a 1.5yr old, (both doctors) when they were pregnant they were explaining that the timing wasn't what they wanted, they were upset that they weren't going to have that big European trip etc. I just said that they still will but it will be more different seeing things through a childs eyes, also that they should just enjoy it as many aren't that lucky... Then I felt bad as they looked at each other and changed topic lol - I think they got the impression that was us.
SKJ - woohoo! a 20+ follicle and now you're triggering - my fingers and toes are all crossed - it just feels good for you this cycle! I loved hearing the story about your birth too (except that vulture of a nurse!), its lovely to hear how something that doesn't go as you wish can still be so wonderful.
Gtree and bebe - hoping that all is going well?
MsD - heres to a couple of super romantic months for you, where things happen and you and DH bond and the result is a beautiful little miracle. That's the vision I am going to hold onto for you xx
Indie - huge hugs, hoping that you have found out more information? But most of all hope that you find your mojo again, the fact that this cycle has really bummed you out is poo... Here's hoping for some romantic downtime for you and DH too - with the same happy end as MsD!
AFM - cd23 ff has me ovulating tomorrow, but I think it is a day or two early (i messed up my temps then) I temped just yesterday to confirm I hadn't missed the window and all good. So I am spending my time seducing DH - how hard is his life lol... Huge hugs to everyone, I'm loving this new meds excitment - almost makes me want to dash out and get some! Oh one thing I am super excited about I had my annual pap smear, so I don't have to do it again for 12 months - woohoo! lol I could go to 2 yrs but after having pre cancer, I'm fairly determined to keep it up. Sorry about the volume - I'm on the comp and it is so much easier to type!
MsD - Can understand and relate to the money issue. I'm sorry your options are now so limited.
Jpack - Your friend is a butt. lol
SKJ, Sila, TF, Gtree, Bebe, Indie - Hugs ladies! Hope all is well.
So much excitement going on these days! Best of luck with the meds!
AFM - I dunno what's going on. Wiped last night and had a red streak but that stopped. Today my cm is kinda chunky (sorry) and had a small brownish-red tint. Used and Answer brand test with my 5th u of the day and got the following: (Hope it's see able)
It's been almost a week since I had the positive opk and we bd'ed. Is it possible? I know I'll know more as the days go by. But geez, how long does this take to leave the old system?!
eta - much better to see in person.
Chrissy- From this view it looks like an evap. Do you have more tests to try again tomorrow? It is certainly possible if you O'd and BD around that time that it is just still early!
chuord- enjoy the time with your hubby!! Sounds like you have decent friends for the most part. Sometimes it is easier just to ignore that they're pregnant than to have it rubbed in your face.
jpack- I forgot if I mentioned this before. I used to go to a 'Girls night out' with my sister and her friends (I'm on the young side and none of my own friends are married) but last time 2 were expecting and spent a good deal of time talking about their 'oops' second pregnancies (all 4 actually got pregnant unexpectedly with #2). I never went out with them again and now they call it 'Moms night out'. Ugh.
Chrissy - I don't see it. Wait some more? Ugh sorry to tell you that!
Tfairy, Jpack - Ugh. Jpack, that does not sound like a "friend" to me. I'm a bit of a "bridge burner" and don't really have trouble breaking things off so I'll come over and help you. While we are ranting on this subject I just came home from my best friend's house. My best friend whose 3rd pregnancy I accidentally found out about on Instagram, my best friend whom I doula'ed for that 3rd baby (a HBA2C!) and who knows a lot of our IF journey and struggle. Anyways, today she tells me that without a doubt they are doing embryo adoption for #4. She showed me the business and card they will probably use MY RE. Her 3rd baby is almost 4 month old mind you. So I ended up not telling her that we have started our injectable cycle already (she knows we were planning on it eventually).
Anyways...hope everyone is doing well!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF83eM35zHc
I have to share this because it literally has my husband in tears (he just told me he laughed so hard he has sweat in his belly button). I know I shared it on facebook but since most of you aren't on my FB I had to shared in here to give you all a little endorphin boost.
Sila- Friendship really is tough through infertility. I wonder sometimes how people feel on the other side, if they think it is better just to not address it for fear of making us uncomfortable or excluded. Fine line I guess... It is nice you were able to be her doula and hopefully you will be having #2 long before they are ready for #4.
Tfairy - That video is going aroung FB today and I finally watched it lol! I better shoe my DH since he makes fun of anyone in "Hollywood". Sigh, it is a fine line. I sure hope I'm on to #2 before they are on #4 because I want her to doula for me! She'll be pg by this time next yr if they maintain their 20 months apart pattern and they get on an embryo list...sigh again...
hello, my friends. i feel like i have so much to catch up on!
chrissy - it's funny, but i can see the line when i'm on my phone but not when i'm on my laptop... if you see it, i trust it is there...but yeah... all you can do is wait (ugh. isn't that all we do??)
jpack can't wait for you to cut that "friend" loose. there seems to be so many clueless people out there. and sila, i wish i had a little bit of your cut 'em loose-ness. i don't hang onto friends who make me feel bad but i do feel bad for not hanging on to them! i wish i didn't do that...
jpack - we will be here to walk you through the IUI if that's what you choose to do (though, i agree... i doesn't sound like your issue...)
sila - super excited about your follies!
toothfairy - i could go on and on on the topic of birthing expectations vs. birthing realities. i think my fear of never having a child has helped me to "hang on loosely" to the birthing side of things... i would love an unmedicated, natural birth but i also know that there are SO many things that can get in the way of that. and truly, if i get a baby out of all of this, any birth experience will be a great birth experience. i'm so glad for the natural birthing movement and how much it has helped to educate women about their choices in birthing... i actually made my dh watch "the business of being born" when we had been dating all of a month! (and he totally said he'd get in the birthing tub with me... ha... i should remind him of that!) but i think like so many things it can end up being so romanticized that women feel cheated or like they are somehow a failure if they aren't having a perfect birth at home surrounded by love and rainbows and zero interventions. i still dare to hope that i will get close to that but if i don't, i will totally drown my sorrows in the smell of newborn baby head!
skj - woohoo O!! i am SO excited for you... i love the new protocol you doc has you on and i'm positively giddy about it working!
chuord - so didja O?? and seriously, you dh has to put up with being seduced? so tough. ;-)
msd - i am right there with you with the money stuff... have you tried a combo cycle and iui? it's so much cheaper that straight injectables... i'm still holding out hope for you!
afm - well, my weird cycle continues on... i got a positive OPK today. i met with my RE yesterday and she said she thought that the 18mm follicle was the cyst and that had she been in town she would have had me on stims longer 
she said that since my E2 was at the same level as at the start of a cycle that i could probably expect to O a week or so after last friday and so on a whim i tested today and it was positive... so strange. i never have long cycles, EVER, and so to have a long cycle after taking gonal-f is just plain weird. but at least now i know where i am "at" cycle-wise... that part was really getting me down. i'm so used to knowing exactly where i am at at all times.
other than that, we talked about IVF in may. i gave her protocols i had collected from women who cycles successfully at CCRM and she was totally open to using one of them (EPP/MDL/Antagonist combo thingy). she said she had never used a protocol exactly like that but it made physiological sense and she has a lot of respect for CCRM and was happy to do that for me. this was a huge relief. there was a lot more to that appointment but i'm running out of computer time so I will come back and fill in on the rest later...
happy saturday night!
Chrissy - That one I see. It does look a little "evapy" and I know it's past the time frame but I see it. Hang in there! Don't waste any more tests!
indie- you're weird cycle might still work, no? Maybe longer is better? And I'm so, so sorry your doc was gone, I'm shocked she even admitted that- wish she'd treat you to a cycle for that! I'm glad she's so helpful and nice, though, and I'm still amazed that she even listened to you about your ideas- soooooo cool. With either of the REs I've tried they would probably have laughed in my face if I had brought in an outside case! Guess that's exactly the marker of a decent doc-- willingness to listen, consider and apply their understanding. Anyway, in that kind of care I'm totally sure you're gonna succeed-- as long as she stays put for a while!
Jpack - Glad AF arrived for you and you can move on! I think you mentioned it a while back but what have you got planned for this cycle?
Chrissy - Good! Or I might have been marching over to take your pee sticks away...
AFM - 3 measurable follicles this morning! 15, 12, and 11. I'm not worried since I know there are a lot of variables to measuring. Lining is right on track at 8+. I have at least 11 follicles under 10. My blood looks good and my RE is keeping me at 75iu for the next couple days. The poor nurse did a terrible blood draw and was extremely flustered and apologetic. Those kind of things don't faze me. Next appt is Tues. Hoping for some growth!
ETA: I really wish I had as much time as I would like to participate more on our thread! Sorry guys, I just don't!
Feeling overwhelmed tonight. The dog we are fostering is peeing in the house. I mean, I thought it was just a freak thing, happened twice overnight so now he is crated, happened once (taht we know of) while we were at work and just figured we need to be more careful of how much he drinks and that he actually goes down into the yard in the morning. Then today within minutes of letting him inside I heard him peeing downstairs. So I spent a half hour with the mini carpet cleaner scrubbing the carpet (which is giving me cramps, freakin great). I just don't know what to do. His family is like 20 hours away and we are supposed to have him likely til the end of the year... What am I supposed to do?
I know this isn't an advice column nor do I expect you will have an answer for me but I needed to vent. It would be one thing if it were my own dog, but it isn't.
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