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post #61 of 83
Last week was pure torture because my indoor-only black kitty, Hecate, was in heat. Uggh, I got so sick of her constant meowing, rubbing, rolling and arching her back end up every other second. I had never been around a female who isnt fixed so I got to experience first-hand why people complain about it. I need to take her to get spayed very soon, hopefully Monday or Tuesday.

Little guy is kicking me hard near my ribs now and I feel little fingers near my pubic bone so I'm taking that to mean he is head-down now smile.gif (i call the baby a "he" but i dont know for a fact).

My appetite has been super intense last few weeks, anyone else? I've been eating 3 or 4 good sized meals plus 2 or 3 snacks. I guess its not a ton but its a lot for me. I am up about 25 lbs now, which is good.
post #62 of 83

I finally got a chance to catch up on my reading -- busy thread this week! Hope that those who were having some frustrations are ironing those out, and everyone else is enjoying a peaceful Friday and a relaxing weekend.

 

I would love to see a GBS thread. I have my test in a few weeks and haven't really thought about preventative stuff. I was GBS neg with DS, and I guess I didn't give much thought that I could be positive this time. Ive read a few things, but didn't pay them much attention. Guess I should have -- maybe I'll start with the salt baths.

 

AFM - I just got back from a fun afternoon with some student midwives. They were holding a skills lab locally and I "donated" my belly to the cause. It was fun to be able to help some new midwives learn the art of palpation & try to guess how far along I was, position of the baby, etc. I went with another woman from my personal midwife's practice. My little girl put on a show of some kicking and moving, and then got ornery and curled up so she was hard to palpate. I think she's already flipped over to the other side since I've been home. DS couldn't stand that I was getting all of the attention and put on quite a show himself. The positive was that he hammed it up coming over to kiss the belly and all. Usually he's in denial about the new baby, so this was fun for me too. I tried not to get too into the training, but that part of me that would love to study more midwifery kept peeking out. It was definitely a fun time. But, I missed my nap so I'm thinking it could be an early night for me.

 

Nothing too exciting heading into the weekend. Just hanging out with the fam and counting down the days. I can't believe I'm inching up on 36 weeks! It just goes so fast.

post #63 of 83
Just reading to catch up and wanted to chime in quickly about the GBS test...

Get some grapefruit seed extract pills and take them consistently before the test and then through the time you deliver. Its a natural antibacterial that you can use instead of antibiotics. In other words, it should clear anything that could be present and then keep it clear til baby comes.

I do this and black elderberry syrup through the rest of pregnancy for immune support anyway because who wants to be sick while this pregnant?!
post #64 of 83

First and most importantly, I love the smell of tea tree oil, but for any of you who have never tried it in a bath before, be careful!!! I had found it really helped with congestion, so one day about a month ago when I was sick, I decided I'd put some drops of tea tree oil in a bath, so that I could take a nice warm soak *and* breathe better. So, into the bath went water and tea tree oil, into the bath went me, and... my highly anticipated evening of pampering myself and feeling better turned into a "why do my calves feel itchy? Why do my thighs feel itchy? Why does my butt feel itchy?" Which was immediately followed by realizing I was reacting to my bath water, draining all the water in the tub, soaping thoroughly and rinsing off several times in not-very-warm water since I'd used most of it up for the bath, in an effort to rid my entire body of that itchy feeling. Turns out, some of us are super sensitive to tea tree oil contact with the skin, and while I thought I'd used it on my skin before, I must not have to any great degree. I also figured diluted in a bath should be totally fine, but it really really wasn't.

 

Bottom line: figure out a way to test your reaction to tea tree oil before you go getting in a tub with it! My reaction started within just a few minutes, so you could probably just soak your hands or feet or something to see what happened.

 

GBS: I had to do research on this for my childbirth class, and was kind of surprised at the outcome. When I started out, it seemed like just one more test. When I was done with the research, I was pretty convinced that it's a test (and treatment) that can make a really big difference. Like most things, of course, it does come down to how you weigh the risks and benefits. In my view, while rare, the infections that can result from GBS (sepsis, meningitis, pneumonia) are severe and can have serious repercussions: deafness, lung damage, learning disabilities, blindness, etc., along with a 5-20% mortality rate. For a GBS-positive woman, with the antibiotic treatment (every four hours in labor I think after your water breaks), the chance of your baby getting an infection decreases from 1 in 200 to 1 in 4000. To me, that's a huge difference, and enough to seriously consider the antibiotics if I turn out positive (the GBS test is the *one* test my midwives really strongly encourage). All the countries that have adopted suggested testing and antibiotic treatment during labor have seen their incidences of early-onset GBS infections decrease 70-80%, down to the levels of late-onset cases, which aren't caused by birth. Anyway, I thought it was all pretty compelling, but of course we all have to make our own decisions! spughy, were your other antibiotics continuous? Maybe you wouldn't have as much of a reaction to antibiotics that were only given every 4 hours? I do totally agree with keeping up healthy flora for now. I should find more fermented foods to eat!

 

Scruffy, sorry to hear about the accident, and I'm glad everyone is okay! I love the Little Steps story. smile.gif

 

melany, that sounds scary in the tub - I'm glad you got out! I always wondered about this low handle on the wall alongside our tub, and then after I got pregnant I have been very thankful for it when getting out of the bath. smile.gif And thanks for the hospital input. I honestly can't remember which two hospitals the midwives transfer to, but I do know that for non-emergent transfers, they prefer to go south to one near Renton, because it has the lowest c-section rate. So they've definitely thought about it! And I know two mothers who had to transfer to hospitals with them, and ended up with c-sections, but felt like they were in control of their decision-making the whole time. So I think we'll be good! And of course, while being prepared for other eventualities, I'm hoping for labor/births like my mom had - quick and easy. smile.gif

 

jodieanne, white chocolate cheesecake brownies sound amazing.

 

AFM, I went in for my three hour GTT today. It was not the most awesome experience ever. I asked my husband to come with me to keep me company, and I'm glad I did. I didn't mind the needle pokes much (though the second one in each arm definitely hurt more), but the waiting was interminable. We took a short walk the first hour, which felt good, until I started feeling a little funny. The second hour I was okay until about halfway through, when I suddenly got really dizzy and flushed and sweaty and had to lay down before I passed out. I'm glad laying down seemed to handle it! I pretty much slept through the third hour. Then we went and had giant plates of protein-heavy Mexican food for lunch, and then I came home and stayed awake for about three more hours before sleeping for another three. I am finally starting to feel more like normal again! Now, fingers crossed!

post #65 of 83
I just got home from work... I was attending deliveries and was on a c/s of a 32 week 3 day baby. (I'm 32 weeks 3 days now!). Very cool to see the exact same gestational age baby as what I'm carrying... Same gender, too (girl).

My hospital bought me a white lab coat with my name and credentials embroidered on it. What a fun surprise. It is for when I do lactation consultations.

About GBS-- as a newborn nurse, I have seen very sick babies from gbs infection. I would strongly consider antibiotics in labor... Unless your little one is born en caul! (But how do you know that will happen, right?). For anyone who will need abx in labor, please take probiotics and drink lots of kefir and eat yogurt! Those IV abx are strong and can cause thrush... Not what you want as you are establishing Breastfeeding!
post #66 of 83

Chocolatechip, as for eating more fermented foods, I wanted to mention that making your own is easy, cheap, and fast! Look up a recipe for fermented carrot ginger salad. Basically it is just shredded carrot and ginger in a mason jar with salt (but you need to prepare it correctly with the right proportions). Leave it sitting for three days or so at room temp and it is good to go! Eat as a condiment.

post #67 of 83

Chocolatechip, I'm not sure if the antibiotics I got were continual or not.  I don't think it would have made a difference though.  It's not an immediate effect - it just throws all the native flora out of whack, which tends to do a number on EVERYTHING. For me it has a gradual effect on my metabolism and my mental functioning.  The exact same thing happened to my body a few times before I gave birth - once just after I met DH actually, I somehow developed a dreadful strep infection in my mouth and throat and was on really strong abx for a couple weeks.  In the 6 months following, I went from less than 130 lbs to over 170 lbs and my mental state deteriorated.  Granted, there were external stressors - but I had previously dealt with similar external stressors without ill effect on my weight or my mental health.  Then the same thing happened after I gave birth.  In fact, nearly *every* period of weight gain in my life was preceded by a course of antibiotics.  After a period of a few years my gut recovered and I was able to lose the weight - not exactly effortlessly, but losing weight when I haven't been under the influence of antibiotics in the past year or so has never been especially difficult for me.  But that's me, that's how *I* react - I don't get the IBS symptoms or digestive issues (or thrush!) that other people experience.  I think in the grand scheme of "bad things that can happen to you from antibiotics", weight gain and mild depression is not so bad.

 

Interestingly, I had a less-serious but still significant weight gain in response to a short course of abx I took about a year and a half ago.  I only put on 15-20 lbs and that was beginning to go before I got pregnant - but it still happened, despite having few stressors at the time and ample knowledge of nutrition, health, brain function, etc.  The frustrating thing is that it seems driven not directly by my gut - I mean, I don't put on weight eating the same food I did before, I put on weight because I start eating lots of sugar and starchy foods.  But I *know* these things make me put on weight, it's not like I'm oblivious to that or anything, I just seem to "need" them to cope with daily life and I have a really hard time avoiding them.  After my gut's had time to recover, though, it's somehow easy to stick to good food and the weight drops off.

 

I'm not 100% convinced I can blame antibiotics for periodic weight gain - but at the same time, the research seems to support the notion that messing up your gut flora messes up your brain, and there is a distinct correlation between periods of weight gain in my life and antibiotic use.  And I think once you start eating crap there is a crap-influenced effect as well.  The antibiotics might start the spiral but the crap keeps it going, y'know? Both by feeding not-so-friendlies in your gut and by directly messing with your reward pathways in your brain.  Anyway.  I think I would just be much better off if I can avoid antibiotics, but if it comes to a choice between my own health and my baby's - well, it's kind of a no-brainer.  I'll suck it up and take them.

 

This article outlines some issues with antibiotics - this guy has done a lot of writing about the negative effects of antibiotics, but he's not rabidly anti-abx.

post #68 of 83
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Hello! 

C. Chip: There are good and less good hospitals in Seattle. You might want to talk to your MW about transfer options just because you have so many (I am SO missing Seattle, here). The hospitals that end up with the high risk births tend to also be intervention happy for the less risky births. Swedish First Hill is a great place to be if you are in severe medical need, but not a great place to have a natural, low-intervention hospital birth.

 

AFM: Speaking of Seattle, I was over for work yesterday and the drive did my back in. We had a company meeting and I sat in the uncomfy chairs for 2.5 hours and literally watched my hands swell up. When I did finally get home, I took a long epsom bath to try to help the swelling and it did go down. However, I couldn't get out of the tub. My poor husband was sleeping and couldn't hear me yelling for him. I am having some significant ligament pain, which was the case during the end of my last pregnancy. If I try to sit up for lying down, I cannot do it at all. The MW has to pull me up after they feel for baby position. So, getting out of the tub was a monumental feat. It took me 30 minutes to get myself up and out. I did finally manage to roll onto my side and then my hands and knees to push myself up, but wow. We might need a baby monitor just in case I want to take another bath because Pete can tune out the world. I'm lucky he wakes up for a screaming child, but he hasn't had to wake up for me, so he just didn't hear it.

Goodness Melany - that's enough to spur a panic attack.  I am glad everything turned out alright.

post #69 of 83

Good morning!

 

I am off to Seattle for my baby shower. I am such a non-baby shower person, so this is kind of setting me into an emotional tizzy. Of course, what isn't lately? :) I did find one negative to using the universal registry on Amazon. Everyone has purchased Amazon gift cards for me, which would be great if any of the items I wanted/researched/needed where available on Amazon. I have a bunch of Ikea stuff on there, so now I need to regroup and you can't take them back to the store for cash. 

post #70 of 83
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Chocolatechip, as for eating more fermented foods, I wanted to mention that making your own is easy, cheap, and fast! Look up a recipe for fermented carrot ginger salad. Basically it is just shredded carrot and ginger in a mason jar with salt (but you need to prepare it correctly with the right proportions). Leave it sitting for three days or so at room temp and it is good to go! Eat as a condiment.

I just had to smile & share on this note. My brother made me some homemade kombacha for xmas this year. He had me let it sit out for a little while after I received it, but I kinda forgot & it sat out for about 2 weeks longer than he wanted. I finally tried some yesterday -- it was sooo good, but I think the alcohol in it was a little higher than intended. I got a little buzz from it. Nothing bad, but I decided maybe I'd wait to finish the rest. lol.gif

 

 

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Good morning!

 

I am off to Seattle for my baby shower. I am such a non-baby shower person, so this is kind of setting me into an emotional tizzy. Of course, what isn't lately? :) I did find one negative to using the universal registry on Amazon. Everyone has purchased Amazon gift cards for me, which would be great if any of the items I wanted/researched/needed where available on Amazon. I have a bunch of Ikea stuff on there, so now I need to regroup and you can't take them back to the store for cash. 

I hope you end up getting some other things too! I'm having a shower next month & wasn't able to register for some stuff that I'd really like, but I'll live. DH & I are actually off to BrU today to finish up the registry there. It'll be kinda fun to just put some random, fun things on the registry since we actually have about everything we need. Have fun!

post #71 of 83
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Good morning!

 

I am off to Seattle for my baby shower. I am such a non-baby shower person, so this is kind of setting me into an emotional tizzy. Of course, what isn't lately? :) I did find one negative to using the universal registry on Amazon. Everyone has purchased Amazon gift cards for me, which would be great if any of the items I wanted/researched/needed where available on Amazon. I have a bunch of Ikea stuff on there, so now I need to regroup and you can't take them back to the store for cash. 


Augh Melany, it's a bummer that you won't be able to use the gift cards to get stuff for the baby, BUT, at least you can use those gift cards to buy just about anything else... Trash bags, boxes of cereal, toilet paper, shampoo, etc... You could feasibly have all those types of home goods paid for for a while!

 

Ooh, Amazon's also great for books for baby - esp when they have the 4 for 3 deal!

post #72 of 83

writermama, carrot ginger salad sounds great! Thanks for the tip!

 

Here's hoping all of us who test for GBS come out negative. smile.gif I'll take the antibiotic hit if I have to, but definitely tend to be on the antibiotics=yeast infection side of things, so it would be nicer if it didn't need to happen at all. And if it does, lots of probiotics and yogurt! spughy, it wouldn't surprise me at all if antibiotics could cause weight gain, since it does mess up one's internal flora.

 

melany, I hope you have a great time at your shower!

post #73 of 83

Oh, Mayday, did he bottle it or include a mother? We have two vats (water cooler jugs with spouts) of kombucha going all the time, continuous brew, so we drink it every day. It is really delicious and I usually mix it with a spot of juice and water because ours can get pretty strong. 

post #74 of 83

I am super excited!! For late christmas gifts, my in-laws bought us a new fridge! We picked it out yesterday and it is huge and beautiful!! Especially compared to our bachelor-apartment-sized fridge. I will get to make some freezer food after all. (jumping for joy over here) joy.gif

post #75 of 83
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I just had to smile & share on this note. My brother made me some homemade kombacha for xmas this year. He had me let it sit out for a little while after I received it, but I kinda forgot & it sat out for about 2 weeks longer than he wanted. I finally tried some yesterday -- it was sooo good, but I think the alcohol in it was a little higher than intended. I got a little buzz from it. Nothing bad, but I decided maybe I'd wait to finish the rest. lol.gif

 

 

One time, I made naturally fermented soda (with a ginger bug) for christmas gifts.  I included detailed storage instructions on the gift labels but people suck at reading (I'm a technical writer by trade and should probably have remembered this...)  Anyway, there were explosions.  Fortunately, nobody was hurt, but my landlord's mom & dad's living room and kitchen got a pink "wash" thanks to his storing a pressurized bottle of naturally fermented (ie, still fermenting) blackberry-apple soda at near room temperatures for a week.  I didn't do carbonated beverages as gifts ever again.  (It was really tasty though!!!)

 

I'm not a huge fan of kombucha - occasionally I'll get a craving but then I just buy some. I used to keep a mother going but they're just so... needy. LOL.  I do have some water kefir grains that I was going to boot up again (they're in storage) to ferment some coconut water as a labour drink.  Even strongly made, water kefir still has a little too much sugar in it for me right now, but coconut water kefir should be an awesome boost when I'm in labour.

 

I make raw milk kefir all the time.  Love it.

 

writermama - congrats on the new fridge!!! That's exciting.  Next to the birth of a baby, I think new appliances are the most exciting things that can happen to a family. smile.gif

post #76 of 83

writermama -- congrats on the new fridge!

 

I know I haven't had much to say over here, but I can never think of what to say that hasn't already been said by someone.

 

spughy, we do our own brewing of wine, so I've suggested to my husband that we might try our own soda. You made blackberry-apple? That sounds so yummy!

 

Anyone else have issues with pants that go over their belly? A friend of mine loaned me a number of maternity sweatpants, but most of them are designed to go over the belly and I go nuts every time I wear them. So far, my favorite go-to pants are a pair of under-the-belly jeans from Old Navy, and two pairs of sweatpants that I wore before I got pregnant... I just wear them under my belly and I'm golden. ;)

post #77 of 83
Mmm, WriterMama, I can't wait to try the fermented carrot-ginger , I've been googling recipes, thanks. I love my milk kefir but I can't get raw milk and I'm not happy with using too much dairy in general. I tried coconut kefir but didn't like it at all, strange because I adore coconut in any other form.
Spughy, there is definitely a correlation between gut health and mental, as well as physical, health. This whole gut-brain axis is only gaining mainstream recognition now but there are more bacteria in our guts than cells on our bodies.....I'm in no doubt as to who's in charge!
post #78 of 83
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writermama -- congrats on the new fridge!

 

I know I haven't had much to say over here, but I can never think of what to say that hasn't already been said by someone.

 

spughy, we do our own brewing of wine, so I've suggested to my husband that we might try our own soda. You made blackberry-apple? That sounds so yummy!

 

Anyone else have issues with pants that go over their belly? A friend of mine loaned me a number of maternity sweatpants, but most of them are designed to go over the belly and I go nuts every time I wear them. So far, my favorite go-to pants are a pair of under-the-belly jeans from Old Navy, and two pairs of sweatpants that I wore before I got pregnant... I just wear them under my belly and I'm golden. ;)

RE: over the belly pants.  I agree, I can't abide them  I have leggings that go under the belly and a pair of jeans (possibly the same ones) that dip down to go under the belly - and a few dresses.  It all works well, but I can't last the week without laundry.  

post #79 of 83

I love over-the-belly pants and can't deal with under-the-belly ones.  I find myself hiking them up all the time.  I think it depends on your shape.  My favouritest things to wear are my maternity leggings.  Soft, comfy, over-the-belly... I love them so much.  It makes me sad when they have to go in the wash.   It will make me *really* sad when I don't have a belly to hold them up anymore - BUT I think that is a trade I will be ready to make!

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I love over-the-belly pants and can't deal with under-the-belly ones. 

yeahthat.gif I agree that it depends on your shape.  If they don't go over my belly, they fall off.

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