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post #221 of 595
Went to the dr today for my first set of blood draws. Checking the usual- betas and progesterone. Nurse noted my urine test was light. Kinda wanted to punch her. It wasn't FMU, and really? The hpts I've done are not getting lighter. I'll keep poas until I run out of tests.
Anyway, second beta draw Friday, and depending how progesterone looks, either not another, or a second one next week. As soon as my beta levels hit 5,000 dr will order an ultrasound.
So now I wait. Still feeling crappy and tired and hungry. Dr said all good signs. Funny when it's good to be sick!
I haven't told anyone irl and continue to be in shock and anxious.
post #222 of 595

Caritasrainbow, I'm right there with you! I'm somewhat shocked, a bit anxious, and also feeling tired and hungry. I go for my second blood test tomorrow. First one (obviously) went well and the nurse scheduled the second and told me an ultrasound will follow if all is well. Exciting and a little scary.

 

I've already had to dodge a question from my mother about this. Ugh. So thankful I can write here and feel like I'm expressing my excitement and joy. I'm a little overwhelmed with guilt because my sister has been trying so hard for so long. Sigh...

post #223 of 595
First beta came in at 14dpo 76.5 hcg. The only reason I got these numbers is because I went in for my second blood draw and told the nurse I wanted my numbers. She said that seemed low to her as my last beta (around 7 weeks last pg that ended in mc) was over 10,000. I was like, um, that's a three week difference, I'm pretty sure that number is within normal. So now I'm worried.
Progesterone was 21.4 and the nurse didn't know what average was supposed to be. I put a call in to the dr, but I won't hold my breath she will call back.
So now I sit and worry until I call Monday and start bugging them for my second beta numbers. No follow up scheduled either. Dr said us at hcg 5,000. That's IF I make it that far.
So the mind game is now this- I am feeling kinda put out about having to give up so much of my life for this pregnancy. Now, if I knew it was going to end with a baby, I wouldn't mind at all. But I feel like I'm giving up things for nothing. It's so hard to imagine this pregnancy will actually last. Like another inconvenience. I know I sound ungrateful. I'm just so pensive. It's hard to be excited and happy when I've already lost three pregnancies this year.
Sorry for the ramble...
post #224 of 595
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Originally Posted by caritasrainbow View Post

First beta came in at 14dpo 76.5 hcg.

This sounds completely within normal range!   American Preg association lists a range of 5-426, and I found a fertility clinic and some websites that all list the hcg average for 14dpo as being 48 with a range of 17-119. 

 

Also, in my math nerdyness, I did some calculations.

Starting at 76, if you double every 3 days then by 7 wks that would put you around 9728 (very close to what the nurse mentioned as your number last time). 

However, if your hcg doubles every 2 days that would give you a 7 week figure of around 77,000.  So looking at that initial number it looks like you're plenty within range to see some very nice hcg numbers. 

 

Don't be bummed about the start and what some dodo said.  Have faith that this IS that special pregnancy and enjoy it for all the potential it holds!

post #225 of 595
Nurse from the dr's office just returned my call. She let me know that my progesterone level was fine (that's the one I was actually worried about) and went on to let me know that the dr had NOT seen my labs yet (it is now 4:59pm Friday), and further she had no idea why the dr would have ordered these labs in the first place!!!! UGH!!! I want to scream!!!! Well, because this is my fourth pregnancy in the last few months!?!? Never mind I am 42 years old you idiot!!! Omg!!! I swear this is why I have gone unassisted the last four kids! These people are total morons. So pissed I actually need them now!
post #226 of 595

Hello All:  Mind if I join in?  My name is Tabitha, and I'm a military spouse who is currently living in Wiesbaden, Germany with my DH and family.  I turned 40 on November 18, and we've been casually TTC for the last three months.  I have six wonderful DSs (see signature), ranging in age from almost 14 yrs to 15 months.  I've also had six MCs, so I know that getting pregnant and staying pregnant are definitely not one and the same!  

 

Anyhow, it's nice to find a group of mamas who are going down a similar path.  We would love to grow our family, but are realistic about our chances of conceiving again at our ages (DH is 44), so we are also open to foster/adopt when we get back to the states in 2.5 years.  That said, my Day 3 fertility testing #s from last month were essentially the same as they were four years ago, so I have some hope of success.  I'm currently 12 DPO, and woke up feeling kinda drowsy, warm, and mildly queasy as well (which is how I usually feel right around the time that I get a BFP) with sore breasts.  I've decided I don't want to see a BFN again, so I'm not testing until 15 DPO.  This is a huge week for my DH, work-wise, so I'd kinda like to surprise him with a BFP :).

 

Nice to meet you, and BFP wishes to all!

post #227 of 595
Innacircle- I forgot to thank you for your calculations. They did help to put my mind at ease. Know anything about progesterone levels? I honestly can't find anything to tell me what's normal.
Fx for my numbers today from Friday. No bleeding yet, so far I'm hanging in there. Not even 5w yet though. Lol! I sooooo want this time to be different!!!!!
post #228 of 595
And soul-o, welcome!
post #229 of 595
Second beta 146.8. So the first was done 14 dpo approx at noon 11/4. Second two days later 9:30 am 11/6. Numbers didn't quite double. Close, but not exactly. I realize some take a wee bit longer and this wasn't exactly to the second 48 hrs, but I'm left feeling less hopeful than before.
Those low numbers also don't explain the severity of my symptoms over the weekend. The stupid nurse called to say 76.2 was low and the dr wanted a second set. I was like, the ones taken Friday were the same as Wednesday?!? She said she hadn't realized a second set was done. I swear these people are simply not with it.
So I am still hopeful, but I was really wanting higher numbers. This does not give me the confidence I wanted.
post #230 of 595
Back to the office for another draw, hopefully get results tomorrow.
post #231 of 595
Praying for good results, Caritasrainbow!
post #232 of 595
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Originally Posted by caritasrainbow View Post

Second beta 146.8. So the first was done 14 dpo approx at noon 11/4. Second two days later 9:30 am 11/6. Numbers didn't quite double. Close, but not exactly. I realize some take a wee bit longer and this wasn't exactly to the second 48 hrs, but I'm left feeling less hopeful than before.
Those low numbers also don't explain the severity of my symptoms over the weekend. The stupid nurse called to say 76.2 was low and the dr wanted a second set. I was like, the ones taken Friday were the same as Wednesday?!? She said she hadn't realized a second set was done. I swear these people are simply not with it.
So I am still hopeful, but I was really wanting higher numbers. This does not give me the confidence I wanted.


OK so 76 to 146.8 is as close to doubling as it needs to be... it's a guideline, not a decree!  I read some studies showing hcg doubling and boy babies tend to walk right on that line of exactly double, where girls tend to speed up and do a little more than double.  So maybe it's a boy. 

I did my nerdy calculations and if you had done that hcg second sample around noon, your number would likely have been 151.5 which is right at the doubling mark (of 152). 

Be happy my dear!  Things look good, although your doc's office sounds a bit wacky!

I'm not well versed on progesterone, but I know above 15 is considered A-OK in early pregnancy.  I'll do a little digging to see if I can find any research with more info.  I'm super excited for you! 

post #233 of 595

carita - here's the info on progesterone and hcg during early pregnancy from the APA.

 

Progesterone levels can have quite a variance. They can range from 9-47ng/ml in the first trimester, with an average of 12-20ng/ml in the first 5-6 weeks of pregnancy.

With both hCG levels and progesterone levels, it is not the single value that can predict a healthy pregnancy outcome. It is more important to evaluate two different values to see if the numbers are increasing. Levels of hCG should be increasing by at least 60 % every 2-3 days, but ideally doubling every 48-72 hours.

 

Accordingly, your stats so far are perfect.     jumpers.gif      Woohoo!

post #234 of 595
Well that does make me feel a little better, thank you. Hopefully I will have today's number by tomorrow afternoon. I am really hoping for a much bigger jump, but I guess anything over 450 hcg would be enough to not make me completely give up hope.
I did go to Goodwill today and fattened my maternity library quite a bit. Lol! So I guess I'm more hopeful than I'm letting on. Just so really very anxious and nervous. Now last pregnancy my first two 48 hours apart numbers were like 290 and 295, so it does seem much better this time. Those numbers were done slightly later, so that's why they are higher. They later jumped right up and I felt relief, but later when I got my new OB and the pregnancy was clearly nearing the end, she said those first two numbers were pretty tell-tale.
Side note- of course I'll be happy with a healthy baby either way, but I gotta admit I'm super hoping for a girl. Lol! I have three boys and two girls, and my youngest (will be 3.5 at the time of birth if this sticks) is a girl. My luck it'll be another boy.
~sigh~
Feels good to joke about the sex, but the second my quick laugh is over I'm back to trepidation.
post #235 of 595

carita - I totally get where you're coming from about joking but we DO have to live a little.  It can't all be serious.  I was an ICU nurse in one of the most high acuity units in the country.  It was bad in there - 1 in 5 patients died, even with the best in US medical care.  We gave blood, sweat and tears every day and it sucked the life out of me.  That being said, we still joked.  It's life - and it feels good to let loose of the reigns a little bit and be a goof sometimes.

 

I look forward to your update with new blood results.  I bet you're going to find they look great and hopefully that will make you start to feel a little more optimistic.  Realizing your history, there will never be zero worry, but you can't live life in that shadow!

post #236 of 595
Thank you for the pep talk. I really need that. Since I haven't told anyone, I've no one to give me those, so you really have no idea how much it means to me. A very good friend of mine is a nurse on a heart transplant unit at a children's hospital. I don't know how y'all do that. It's good there are wonderful strong women like y'all out there. Thank you.
post #237 of 595

I've been lurking and really not sure where I stand... I'll be 43 in 2 weeks. I have 4 kids ranging from 14-23. I got remarried this summer and we conceived in July on the 1st try. I miscarried at 11 weeks in September. We conceived again the next cycle and I miscarried at 6 weeks on November 30th. I'm close to ovulating again and I know conceiving isn't my issue, so I've just been trying to decide if I'm ready to try again. I think I came to the conclusion today that trying again is more helpful to my healing process than sitting out a cycle and feeling sad. I know I'm healthy and that this is just my healthy body eliminating unhealthy embryos.... I'm tired of hearing statistics and horror stories. I was really relieved to read of some success stories in this thread. I know that positive attitude has such a huge impact. So I guess I'm here... and I hope that I can be a productive and supportive addition to the group :) 

post #238 of 595
Welcome! We have similar stories. My 5 kids range from 20-2 and I am 42 with three losses this year. I am also healthy, just seem to have bit an age where egg age makes a difference. I am currently pregnant again, very very early on. Fx for your sticky bean soon!
post #239 of 595
Carita I have followed your posts and have been crossing my fingers for you smile.gif Thank you for the welcome and sticky thoughts to you smile.gif
post #240 of 595
Omgoodness! Just realized I didn't post my new numbers. The very nice nurse called me at 9:30 this morning. So:
12/04 76.2
12/06 146.8
12/09 641.9
Dr said I could continue beta checks if I wanted them, but she did not feel that they were necessary. Scheduled ultrasound for 12/23, and I imagine that's when I will see the dr for my first real prenatal. Could make or break Christmas for sure.
Fx for my new tww.
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