The responses on this thread perplex me. OP, I just wanted to say that I completely understand what you're asking. Does anyone want to share an experience of being in a hospital that did not allow VBACs but achieving one anyway? Or maybe even experiences of refusing a care provider's suggestions or demands? I know there are plenty of stories about not consenting to procedures and the range of responses that the hospital staff had- from accepting the mom's decision politely or in a supportive manner, to forcing a c-section on a mom verbally refusing all the way to the OR.
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You can. They cannot do anything without your permission. They will make you sign papers saying you acknowledge you are putting the life of your child in danger, etc. They will lie, and tell you things are wrong to get you to do what they want. When you get second opinions, they original lieing doctor will try to decredit the second opinion. Do your research, so you can more easily identify a lie. I wish I had.
All your points are true, and I wasn't actually in this predicament, it was just something my doctor brought up! We were talking about my issues with births and all the rules that hospital have, and also about a few friends who were flat out refused VBAC's just as a policy at the hospital they were at. I've been friends with my doctor for over twenty years, so we chat.
Even though I did have 7 months to plan (baby was supposed to have been miscarried according to my first two monthly ER visits for copious bleeding) when I finally got confirmation I was still pregnant we were in the process of moving from Japan to Germany (husband actually moved a week after I left with the kids) and in the middle of this, I needed to take one of my kids to the states for a medical condition. If we hadn't had to go to America I could have easily delivered in country number three, all within the space of one pregnancy. Instead I stayed with all the kids and delivered at a hospital that let us hit the children's hospital and have a good life at the same time. I actually don't think I've been able to start "official" prenatal care before six months pregnant with the last three, just by way of travel and moving. Life happens
The huge point you should take from this is, that it's actually not that odd for people who work internationally, or for military spouses, to deal with drastically different hospitals and birthing rules when they are sometimes forcibly moved from the hospital they conceived near. It's also not that odd for a hospital to change their policy mid-pregnancy. I know I would have never thought of this, had I not moved so often myself.
I know when we lived in America full time, the health insurance issue was very limiting so I imagine people could get trapped at a hospital they didn't love and that would be the best they could do. Sometimes the only thing we can do is go against the flow-- which is what my doctor,who in the ideal situation was fine with a VBAC, but couldn't do one legally at his hospital, was suggesting. I just wanted to know if anyone had ever done this successfully.
Ah, I didn't realize you are/were abroad. When you said that you move around I just assumed it was here in this country. Yes, I can imagine things would be more up in the air if you are working internationally, in the military, etc.
With my 3rd child I tried to do a VBA2C but I never did go in to labor before my scheduled c-section and I really wanted a tubal ligation at the same time so I went with it. But I do believe that both my 2nd and 3rd child could have been delivered vaginally had I really tried harder. It's my fault they weren't but I love them nonetheless (4 yrs old and 11 years old) and loved the birth experience no less. :)