Doses and Immunity - Page 3

[Dakotacakes]

So that quote bassically says, that they will give 1/2 doses to toy breeds, but in vaccinologists (and most vetrinarians) disagree with it because the vaccine is the already the smallest dose that will produce the required immune response. But yes they will do it, not surprised. They also will not do it for rabies because rabies is a vaccine required by law (and as explained, the 1/2 dose won't give sufficient immunity for the law). Other vaccines aren't required by law so yeah, you can get someone to 1/2 it though I am not sure why you want to halve the vaccine, half the other ingredients and not have immune response the vaccine is designed for because you arent't taking the required dose.

If this IS about weight My post in post 23 explains why Chihuahuas and mastiffs get the same vaccine dose but not the same antibiotic dose.

If ti is about vaccine ingredients that debate is taking place elsewhere and I am more than willing to have it, but that is unrelated to the weight/dose issue.

[Mirzam]

Dr Dodds feels that a half dose is probably fine and safer, but they don't do it for rabies, I think she is implying they don't because of the law. As her and Dr Schultz's research is showing rabies titres are good for at least 5 and likely way more, years. 

Vets halve vaccines in small and toy breeds because they are finding the dogs are having more adverse reactions to the vaccines (as the research shows). Co-incidence?

The problem with vets like peds is they only know what they have been taught about vaccines, which is precious little, so it isn't surprising they tout the official line. The AVMA is all but bought and paid for by big pharma and the pet food manufacturers, so nothing new there. There are some vets like Dr Schultz, Dr Dodds, Dr Jordan, Dr Pitcairn etc that actually think for themselves.

[Rrrrrachel]

Except dont those vets also fall into the category of havin been taught "precious little?"

[Mirzam]

They at least had the insight to realize there was more to the subject than what was told to them at vet school and took it upon themselves to further their education. Rrrrrachel, haven't you sited Dr Dodds in relation to your dog's vaccine's in the past?

Anyway, as par for the course, this dialogue is going nowhere. So, you are welcome to talk amongst yourselves.

But more relevant, my apologies to the OP (and the mods), I just realized that I posted in the wrong thread this discussion is about waning immunity. Duh 

[Rrrrrachel]

So the people who agree with you have insight, but the people who disagree are ignorant. Got it.

[Rrrrrachel]

Yeah I thought this was a different thread too. Sorry.

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by Rrrrrachel 

So the people who agree with you have insight, but the people who disagree are ignorant. Got it.

Same could be said for you. Kind of a pointless comment IMO.

To keep this thread on track

Waning Antibody Levels and Avidity:Implications for MMR Vaccine Induced Protection

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Conclusions. Measles and rubella induced high avidity antibodies and mumps low avidity antibodies both after vaccination and natural infection. Waning of both the concentration as well as the avidity of antibodies might contribute to measles and mumps infections in twice MMR vaccinated individuals.