Queer Conceptions: February 2013 - Page 2

[sotohana]

Sarah- 

[DarcySD]

Sarah, I am so so sorry. 

[LindseyW]

Sarah, so sorry to hear the disappointing news. You have a great attitude about it -- noting that it has shown that KDs sperm can fertilize your egg. It must be so upsetting though.

SanDiego (response to a question you asked on the January thread that I just read tonight), I just popped on to tell you the story of my brother's conception in case it is helpful. My mom had tried for 3.5 yrs and had a dozen (or more) chemical pregnancies. Her doc suggested they test her hormones the next time she got pregnant (I think she waited a long time before seeing a doc). She went to the doc weeks later and said "I know I'm pregnant, can you test my hormones" he said they could not test the hormones until they proved that she was actually pregnant but this was back in the days when a pregnancy test took days to come back. My mom said that she was absolutely sure that she would lose the pregnancy if they waited that long but the dr insisted. When the nurse came in to draw her blood, my mom cried to her and explained the situation. The nurse ordered the hormone test on the lab form (against the dr's orders). The dr's office called 2 days later and told my mom to drop whatever she was doing and come to the office IMMEDIATELY because she was pregnant but had incredibly low progesterone. When she got there, they gave her an injection of progesterone. She went for an injection every single day for the first trimester and carried my brother to full term with no other complications. He is 31 yrs old now. My mom had conceived me (the oldest) without any trouble but she had barely stopped taking her birth control pill so she thinks that might have actually helped her to carry the pregnancy.

I really think you've proven that your timing is perfect and that your DP can get pregnant very easily. It seems like once you take care of the progesterone piece you'll have everything you need to make a healthy baby. (Just my opinion though and I don't know much about these things).

[KWPX2]

Morning All, 

Quick note before I leave for work. BFN again this am. Im still feeling ok about it. My temp remains on the up side and I had some more weird smelling instances this morning. The best thing however is that my dad called a left a very cute and excited message last night asking if he was going to be a grandpa yet! He seems very excited about all this as well. It warmed my heart a little more! Wishing everyone a very happy Friday! 

[escher]

Scorpio: I'm sorry. Chemicals can be so disappointing. It's great that you know you got the timing right, but I know that may not feel like much consolation right now.

KWPX2: I'm sorry about the bfn. How many dpo are you now?

Lindsey: That's quite a story! I'm glad that these days we don't usually have to take progesterone by injection.

Carmen: Thanks for thinking of that. My DW isn't nursing (I carried our son and am still nursing him). But I wish her wacky cycles had some clear explanation like that!

Happy Friday to everyone here!

[carmen358]

Sorry for your loss, scorp

If it's any consolation prize you are often more fertile following an early loss....next cycle!?

[carmen358]

Originally Posted by escher 

Scorpio: I'm sorry. Chemicals can be so disappointing. It's great that you know you got the timing right, but I know that may not feel like much consolation right now.

KWPX2: I'm sorry about the bfn. How many dpo are you now?

Lindsey: That's quite a story! I'm glad that these days we don't usually have to take progesterone by injection.

Carmen: Thanks for thinking of that. My DW isn't nursing (I carried our son and am still nursing him). But I wish her wacky cycles had some clear explanation like that!

Happy Friday to everyone here!

Oops, I should have known that, sorry!!

[scorpioma]

kwpx2, FX!!!

carmen, thanks a bunch. lisedea told me that, about the fertile cycles post-chemical... I never knew that! so cool! 

[redrockband]

Scorp: So sorry, I really had a feeling this was your month 

KWPX: Fingers still crossed! 

Escher: I think you mentioned you used the clearblue fertility monitor? I just started using it this month and got high fertility days from like day 5 to today (day 16) when it changed to peak. Did yours do this? 

Good luck and baby dust to everyone! 

[SanDiego78]

Scorp - sorry to hear, we're all here for you!  I've been though 2 similar situations as you all know.  Things will get better, and we all will have success this year!

Pokey, thanks for your info, DW is now taking herbs prescribed by our acupuncturist (who specializes in fertility), she is also eating more protein, nutrition powders & superfoods/greens...and folic acid. I'll talk to her, perhaps we'll mix in the other items you mentioned, thanks again for your thoughts. I hope you're feeling great.

[SanDiego78]

Lindsey - thanks so much for your story... we plan to increase progesterone measures next cycle (which will be in 3.5 weeks) We're definitely going to incorporate pill form in addition to suppository...and possibly shots (depending on her levels, which will be tested weekly...they werent tested at all for the first chemical pregnancy, and for the second chemical pregnancy, her level was tested late in the game)

[chortles]

I'm so sorry to hear your news, Scorp - I have high hopes for you in the future!

[chortles]

Darn double post!

[lizbian]

2justicemamas I use the clearblue fertility monitor and get something similar - high days from something like day 9 - day 16 when it shows peak for 2 days.

[KWPX2]

Scorpio - I haven't heard about the super fertility post chemical. This next cycle is going to be the one! I'm feeling it for you! 

Sphinxy - How are you feeling?

Lindsey/San Diego- Is it possible to have too much progesterone? I am not sure that I have ever heard of that happening but I suppose it could with massive supplementation. Lindsey, thank goodness for your mom's tenacity! I have been taking progesterone suppositories since the insem. Last night was my last dose. My RE just said to use it for 14 days. I have some progesterone cream that I have considered continuing to use. I had told the RE I had some but she seemed to feel like it was a crap shoot as you never know how much progesterone crosses through the skin into the blood stream. She indicated the suppositories were much more effective and in her words, "it goes straight to the uterus." 

AFM, 

We woke to a white Super Bowl weekend today. It is bitterly cold (for the Bluegrass state) at 20+ degrees this morning and we have a little over an inch of snow and it is still coming down. It looks very pretty and gives me a good reason to stay holed up inside today. I POAS this morning...BFN again. An odd thing happened though, the TP was pinkish. It wasn't like my usual pre-period spotting, it was just a faint pink. This was like 430 this morning, my temp was down a few 10ths of degrees but it has been up and down like this ever since the insem. My temps are still above the coverline and even though I know it doesn't mean anything physiological I am happy to stay above it. I am just hoping the pink TP doesn't mean AF is inevitable. I have heard late implantation can happen outside 14 days DPIUI I will just hope that's what I saw and in a few days I will get my BFP. If I get AF I will plan for the next cycle I suppose. I have a very loving and supporting wife and we will just keep looking forward if that is the path we have to travel. 

[Twomommyfamily]

KWPX: My RE said there is no such thing as too much progesterone in the luteal phase/2ww. Also the progesterone cream that is sold otc is extremely low dosage compared to suppositories or progesterone in oil (injection). I think it could support women with an otherwise healthy progesterone level, but if progesterone is affecting fertility then the cream won't make much of a difference. Also as for temping when taking progesterone- the progesterone is going to keep your temps up above the coverline. I think it won't start to drop (if you aren't pregnant) until sometimes even a couple days after the last suppository. I hope the pink you saw this morning was possibly implantation! I have heard it can happen late. Some women do not even get a bfp until 18 dpo. Also you had mentioned that you are done with the 2ww, but AF isn't due until next week... Your lp is impressively long! 

 

San Diego: I'm so happy that you and DW are moving forward and doing really great things to improve your chances next cycle. I think that, since your DW clearly can easily conceive, this next cycle will the the one! The extra progesterone and all you are doing with herbs and accupuncture is going to definitely make this next pregnancy stick. 

 

AFM, 9dpiui. Nothing really to report. Feeling a little feverish and my breasts hurt, all just side effects of the progesterone, I suppose. Did a dollar tree hpt this am and, of course, bfn. Trying to resist running out and buying FRER. DP wants us to wait a few more days. We have a very busy weekend ahead of us so it should take my mind off testing.

[KWPX2]

Well gang AF checked in loud and proud about 10 minutes ago. Certainly I am disappointed and sad but I am happy to have an answer even if it wasn't the one we hoped for. I have already phoned the RE so we can get right back in the saddle...or stirrups as it is. Thanks to all for making our first cycle a wonderful growing experience.

[scorpioma]

so sorry, KWPX2! It's never easy. Sounds like you have a good perspective, though!

[lea2012]

KWPX and Scorpioma - Just sending my thoughts - so sorry you both got AF.  

[Twomommyfamily]

KWPX: I'm sorry AF showed up. Back into those stirrups!