Tilly, Now sugar would definately be the hardest for meeh! Just because I can't count the times I'll ask DP to get meeh "something sweet" from the store, not caring what it is. lol I hear you on the multiple follies, twins already are hereditary for the women in mye family..nd mye sis had twins last year. I wouldn't mind two, but I'm not asking for them lol. The only thing I can say I did notice with the Femara was that I did have an elevated temp at night. I felt hot so much while in bed! Only thing though. The two meds are very similiar, but the main reason I've seen people switch from one to the other is due to personal side effects. I'm very sensitive too :) but if your O was painful with clomid, I wouldn't put yourself through it again. And if you go to the first page and click on see mye chart it'll take you straight to it, or you could just go to
Queer Conceptions: February 2013 - Page 12
Friederike: I think you're probably right about only two actually maturing. :-) Keep us all posted on how your monitoring u/s goes.
liz: The donor is quite tall, it could happen!
tilly: I sent you a PM with my contact info. :-) I'm trying to give up sugar too, that one is the toughest for me. I enjoy a little chocolate every day... :/
fmmorris: I think the heat works! :-) Of course now, I'm clinging to it because it feels like my ovaries my bust through my back! LOL!
Now considering you haven't had current hormone levels and labs and you've got exactly two vials...I'd want a re-check. Also, trying to time using temps and past cycles versus chemically maturing follies and verifying growth and triggering seems dicey when you're wanting to nail O. This is just my opinion however. I like to think I am in control for sure....Best of luck and tons of baby dust!!!
Liz hope all went well at the funeral. The most interesting thing happened. I was telling my DW about the accident and she says "No way! I just red about this on msn.com!" Then I googled it and there was an article about it on the Huffington Post. They sure seem like a fantastic couple! So sorry for the loss!
AFM, still waiting....no symptoms...no spotting. DW read only about 30% of women have implantation spotting. Had a temp down-tick this am but I think it had more to do with the fact that I slept so poorly (no more than 1.5 continuous hours at a time). I have terrible sleep on progesterone!
fmorris I know - it's stupid & still haven't heard from them. Useless useless people. I've found that quite a lot in the UK -bad customer service. Wow I'm impressed you went cold turkey on all that stuff - I'm not sure I could have done that at once but don't drink caffeine or smoke so that at least was easy! Only alcohol was hard with the crap week last week but in fact it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be.
justanotherjenny imagine if it was too long & its little feet were hanging out the bottom!!!! hahaha. Sorry, I have a way too vivid imagination. A friend had a 13 pound 8 baby a few years ago with no drugs. OUCH!!!! She didn't have enough milk for him & his clothes were all too small!
KWPX2 yeah it's been all over the news everywhere. No funeral yet, have to bring the bodies back from Thailand which is taking longer than they thought. Driver was bending down to pick up his hat from the floor of the truck when he hit them. I have no symptoms either. Nothing at all so who knows what is going on down there - I guess we'll find out Sat/Sunday when we test.
I had the most random dream last night. I was finally legally marrying DP & didn't have anything to wear so borrowed a friend's purple frilly dress. It's so random as 1) I don't wear dresses 2) I DEFINITELY don't wear frills!!!! funny though.
Well folks, BFN this morning at 13 dpo. I'll be taking one more dose of progesterone tonight and will see what happens. Feeling like it probably isn't happening this month, but all we can do is wait and see. If I do get AF, I'm really hoping it shows up on Friday or Saturday, to help with my travel schedule for next cycle's insem. My stomach is still a little off, and I do still think it is because of the progesterone, so I'll see if the symptoms go away when I stop taking it and I'll talk to my doctor about other options for next month.
lea Fingers crossed for you that it is still just a little early. <3
Liz: LOL! That image is going to give me nightmares! LOL!
afm, I triggered last night. Today, it feels as though my ovaries are trying to bore their way out of my body via the holes they are drilling in my back and hips.
lea sorry to hear about your BFN I have a feeling we'll be joining you there soon!
justanotherjenny I know it makes me cringe just thinking about it. Imagine trying to sit down!!!!! Ovaries sound ouch, I'm glad I don't get that problem & good luck with the insem!
kwpx2 Pete was the most sarcastic bastard you ever met & used to say things just to wind people up which was pretty funny. He also always had a ridiculous beard which was amusing. Mary was the sweetest, loveliest and most gentle person you would ever meet & was always smiling. Together they were magic. x
I'm way behind but trying to catch up.
Justanotherjenny: We use TSBC too and we love them. We stocked up before their last price increase. I like that they announce increases before they happen. It's exciting that you have some great follies! Good luck with your IUI tomorrow.
KWPX: Congratulations on your insem, although I'm sorry that the counts weren't great. I hope your working vacation is going well!
Lizbian: I'm so sorry to hear about your friends' death. I'm glad that you are finally feeling better from your illness. I'm impressed that you're waiting until the weekend to test!
Fmorris: I'm so glad that your new year is starting off well. Hooray for waiting to O!
Twomommyfamily: It's exciting that you have your sperm now!
Granite: Those sound like interesting symptoms.
Tilly: Welcome back! How exciting (but maybe a little bit stressful) to have two and only two vials of your son's sperm donor. I'm not a bit fan of more interventions than necessary, but if you really wanted it to work you could always consider IVF, which would give you a lot more attempts with the limited sperm. If you transferred just one embryo per cycle you wouldn't be risking multiples. Like you, I don't want multiples, so I probably wouldn't use femara. Like Friederike and others said, it seems like it might make sense to consider ultrasound monitoring and a trigger shot to get the timing right. And it seems like acupuncture couldn't hurt. Jenny's suggestion of doing more testing first is probably smart too. Good luck figuring out what you want to do.
Friederike: It's exciting that you may have found a place to do IUIs!
Lea: I'm sorry about the bfn.
Hi to everyone else!
AFM: We're in the midst of a monitoring cycle. The plan is not to insem this cycle, although if things lined up we would try to go for it. Everything looked fine on the day 3 sonogram and we're still waiting for results from the bloodwork. My wife started acupuncture with someone who specializes in fertility, and so far she is liking it. Hopefully the vitex and acupuncture will quickly help her to start ovulating a bit earlier in the cycle.
And just like that, AF arrived. I'm bummed, but trying to look on the bright side - since I have these relatively short luteal phases I can try again pretty soon. Hoping I can line up a sub for work so I can fly across the country and do an IVI with fresh sperm, rather than this overnight mail business.
Thanks for all the support, as always! Fingers crossed for those of you still in the wait or about to insem!
Lizbian, I wonder why the UK's customer service is like that? Boo! Maybe they'll get themselves sorted soon and get that tank from you! I'm impressed myself lol I love all that stuff, but I just tell myself that its not for meeh but for our future LO. That always motivates meeh! I told DP last night "I can't wait to meet him." she asked who and I said...."our son." LOL he's not even conceived....or a boy....yet lol! Dresses and Frills...thats definately NOT DP either lol!
JAJenny, How was the trigger? I'll be using it next month nd am still kinda nervous. Maybe because I'm thinking of doing it myself. I'm good with other people doing it, but I can barely poke myself with a spoon, let alone that needle lol! Nd its not funny that your ovaries feel like that, but the way you put it made meeh chuckle when I read it. GL for the insem!!!
Escher, I'm glad things are better too. I'm so exciting to be waiting to O again. Best of luck for the next insemming cycle. Monitoring before always is a good thing. :) GL
Lea, Sorry about your BFN and AF. Glad to see you're looking on the bright side, there's always one. On to the next cycle with high hopes. If you can get some coverage at work nd fly for the fresh swimmers...GO FOR IT! :)
AFM, Well I filled mye clomid which I'll pick up later today. Seems like this cycle is sneaking up on meeh! Geez DP, you just had to say next month, huh? I'm NOT complaining, just think its funny that I'm kinda nervous about everything. But I do feel much more prepared than with our other cycles. I've learned more about mye opks and when MYE body ovulates. I'm hoping for more than one follie this time just for better chances...or twins, boy would DP have a heart attack lmao! I'm just getting the body ready right now. Anyone have any trouble with formatting your post. This is the second time I noticed that the bar to change font colour, size, nd add emoticons is not even there. HMM?
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Fmorris thanks for the encouragement. I hope I am one of the lucky ones with nary an ill symptom. Very best wishes to you and DP with the trigger and insem. I liked the visual of poking yourself with a spoon.
AFM, still not anything to report. Tomorrow is 7 dpo/dpi. I start estrogen tonight until I get a BFP or we begin the next round of letrozole. Still popping the progesterone. My fingers remain crossed for everyone.
TillyBarry: Welcome back! I added you to Waiting to O. Also if you are charting with fertility friend, send me the link to your chart and I can embed it in the first post. That way we can all stalk each other's charts. I agree with everyone here that ultrasound monitoring and a well timed trigger shot will facilitate the process if you are not already planning to do so. I did both last cycle, but I think my trigger was too late. This cycle we are DIY'ing it at home with an IVI. Change of pace. I have heard nothing but good things about Femara. From what I understand the risk of multiples with Femara is considerably lower than with other meds. I also think that getting your hormones tested is important and might indicate the need for any further intervention. It is so totally worth knowing. Even if everything was fine a couple years ago last time you tested, numbers can change a lot over the course of a couple years so its really worth finding out- especially since your sperm supply is so limited. I also totally agree with what Escher recommended. If IVF is in your budget, transferring single embryos will guarantee no multiples and will maximize your use of the limited sperm supply.
Lea: I'm so sorry about your BFN. Thats awful. Fresh swimmers are much better than frozen though so next cycle will hopefully be successful!
Fmorris: Could your DP possibly do the trigger shot? I would have a very hard time giving myself that shot! Also I looked at your chart. Are you temping at different times everyday? So many of the dots on yours are white which I think means that fertility friend doesn't think they are reliable because they are at different times? I get a lot of ups and downs too because sometimes I don't get enough sleep even though I am pretty religious about temping at exactly 6am every day. Thank goodness for opks to figure out when O is about to happen. Also checking CM helps me a lot too. At any rate, if you are going to do monitoring and trigger, your RE will probably not need the charts anyways. My RE thought it was nice that I had all those charts and data to show her before we started but during the cycle she only cared about follie size, nothing else.
KWPX: I hope the rest of the tww goes nicely! Are you taking progesterone again this cycle? Its going to keep your temp up throughout the tww so temping might not be a good indicator of much for the next week or so... However a little dip is interesting! Could definitely be implantation!
JAJenny: Good luck with the upcoming insem!
Escher: I'm glad your DP is enjoying acupuncture and you are proceeding with the monitoring. I still think your RE is totally wrong about there being something wrong with a long follicular phase though.
Lizbian: To read about what charming, interesting, good people your friends were is especially heartbreaking.
AFM, Insem will be any day now. Lea, thank you so much for reminding me about flax. I've eaten it everyday for the last 5 days and today I have more ewcm than I ever thought possible. kinda crazy.OPK is not quite positive yet. Perhaps tomorrow.
lea: :-( So sorry, for AF.
Fmorris: The trigger shot is actually a breeze! You can't even really feel the needle it is SO THIN. I do have someone else do it for me, but I could it myself in a pinch. It really doesn't hurt, I swear! Just press the plunger slowly and it won't even burn.
TwoMommy: Good luck nailing your timing! :-) Sounds like you're getting close.
escher: Nice to see you back around these here parts.
Thank you to everyone for the well wishes. Let the stick peeing begin! (I think most of the people who are aware of my p-stick issue have graduated, but soon you all will be quite aware of my little, erm... problem.) :-) Still hugging a hot rice bag...
Twomommy, You know DP could possibly do it...but she makes meeh nervous sometimes. She's had to give herself an intramuscular shot before nd there was this huge build up before she stuck it in lol You could feel the tension and the sweat coming from her brow. Maybe I'll get lucky and my OB will do it for meeh :) I usually temp when I get up, but I'll probably try to be more consistent going into an active cycle. Last months chart was pretty clear, but this month...well its a whole diff. story! I've never paid this much attention to mye CM in mye life, and I can notice the difference in the 4 stages of mine now. I'll be doing monitoring as well as a trigger, but I'm glad I'll have the charts to give her a better idea of mye O date because temping the last three months has told meeh I have been O'ing later than we were insemming. OH well! You live and learn! Isn't it exciting when you get closer to insem date?! I'm super chill up to, but as soon as I walk through the hospital doors and get on the elevator I get SUPER NERVOUS! Last cycle the nurse asked meeh if I was bc mye heart rate was pretty fast lol. Anywho, GL when you do!
JAJenny, You make it seem soooo easy! I'll have to weigh mye options. When I wanted to use it last time I believe mye OB said I could pick it up and bring it with meeh. If thats the case I'll just tell them seeing as I'm here and they're here...I'll let the professional stickers have at it lol! Whats the use of being in the OB's if they can't stick ya!?Enjoy the ricebag, and I'm interested to hear this p-stick "problem" :)
AFM, Winding down a long day at work. Its been sleeting all day, and I'm ready to get home (slowly nd carefully) have mye tea and watch a movie with DP. GL to the pending inseminators!
Oh what a rollercoster day - while waiting on the tank to arrive this morning, UPS calls me up, to tell me that it can't get delivered today due to weather conditions. We have snow, but nothing really bad at the moment and it didn't even snow much in the last couple of days. Tracking info tells me that for some reason my tank ended up in another distribution center several hundred km away in a neighbouring state, so perhaps it was airplane trouble.So tomorrow they arrive. I have a hairdressers appointment tomorrow at 9:30 though, so I begged them to get my tank here by 9am. She said, she'll try her best. Oh dear. My hair is horrid and I have a conference coming up, I really don't wanna cancel my appointment to wait on the UPS guy. I'll have to insem at 5pm tomorrow since we triggered this noon. Hell will break loose, if they don't achieve to get my sperm here by then.
On the up side - my regular gyn doctor unexpectedly agreed to do IUIs for me . She doesn't have any sperm washing or storage facilities, however as my bank ships IUI ready, she said she could do it. I really, really appreciate her willingness, since she works against the recommendation of the local board of ethics (or whatever it is called). It is a very grey area, that she's willing to step into. So I don't have to do the 3 hours drive to the capital, as I thought. Don't know yet about the costs, we didn't have much time to discuss details today, as her office was bursting with patients and both of her assistants were ill, but I am so happy, I don't really care what it will cost us.
Big News! I have been recruited to start writing a column on the lesbian TTC process for The Seattle Lesbian! With a weekly reach of over 100,000 readers, this is huge! OMg! I am so excited! She's going to have me post three times per week to start with possibly more as I go along. This feels so great- like it will really help put things into perspective as we continue on this roller coaster. Yay!!
Soto, Heyyyyy! Thats pretty great! That's wonderful that you'll be able to write about TTC and it'll reach that many people! Congrats!!!
AFM, At work and it looks bleak outside :/ light freezing rain nd super gloomy out there! I wanna curl up in bed and watch a movie.
sotohana: That's an awesome gig! Congratulations! You'll have to be sure to post the links here so we can all root you on! :-)
frederike: I hope your swimcicles arrived on time. What a fiasco! Sorry you're having to deal with that aggravation!
Thought of the day: I am still incredulous that such a small amount of liquid mixed with an imperceptible spec of an egg, at just the right time, can yield a baby. I mean there is hardly anything at all in the vial. It seems impossible. Inconceivable!