Queer Conceptions: February 2013 - Page 3
Scorpio Have you and DP made decisions to try again or are you sitting out a bit?
Sphinxy welcome home. How are you feeling?
AFM, We are cleaning house for a small football/chili get together. I told my dad this am AF came. He was disappointed but supportive of trying again. He has been so sweet calling daily to ask if he is going to be a grandpa! I feel good about our next round. I have already spoken to the RE about what is next. Tuesday I go for an US to make sure I didn't make cysts and if all clear then back on letrozole waiting for trigger time. Hopefully we can insem somewhere around Valentines day. I really wonder how getting the flu impacted our first try. I was pretty sick for a week starting the day after insem. Hopefully I will be well this next time. Thanks to everyone for this great forum!
hey everyone! yes, kwpx2, we are probably going to take a break here for a bit. we don't know for how long. we may still try in february, but we are thinking it over.
I might need the time to focus on myself and getting fit, drinking some beer and being with DP.
it's hard to stop when you have started, though, you know?
hope everyone is well!
friederike, FX!!! excited for this next week for you!
Oh, scorp, I'm so sorry about the BFN... How absolutely terrible. I haven't been on here for the past several days and so missed the news until now, and I'm so sad for you and DP.
I'm also sorry for your BFN, KWXP2. I'm glad you're doing well with thinking of it as growing experience, though... Must remember that for my own future BFN(s)! I hope your u/s is good news... That's so sweet about your dad.
Loving the pipeline, Lizbian! Good luck with the u/s tomorrow.
FX for you, Friederike!
Sphinxy, you got it right... I'm a bit behind Lizbian, going in for an u/s on Saturday coming up (CD14). Last time I took this dosage of clomid, I O'd on CD18, so hoping for sometime around midweek after the u/s... Valentine's day, perhaps!!!
I think I'm feeling twinges in my right ovary, which is the same one that dropped an egg last cycle. Neat!
Last Thursday, DP and I spent the evening with friends who are totally exhausted by their 5 month old... Which meant that I spent about 3 hours cuddling him, and it was pure bliss. I've never considered myself a "baby-person" in the past... I mean, I took care of my kid sister a lot (I was 9 when she was born) plus babysat a lot of infants and so have pretty good skills with babies, but I've never been one to coo or get excited over anyone's little one. Now, though, I get a totally crazy hormone rush every time I'm even *close* to a baby! I become all flushed! WTF, it's so ridiculous... Have any of you experienced this sort of thing?
Friederike, I'm in a holding pattern till next weekend too. The RE said to keep taking progesterone till 16dpiui, so next Saturday. I'm feeling nothing aside from aching breasts so it seems like a waste of progesterone suppositories to keep this up to just get a bfn. I would kind of like to just start planning the next insem. I used a few dollar tree tests so far and haven't gone out to get FRER. DP wants us to hold out till the bitter end and resist the urge to test any earlier than Saturday. Oh well...
Hope everyone had a great weekend!
Edit for Granite: yay for a V Day insem! I do feel the rush of baby hormones when I'm around a baby too. So much. Even just seeing a baby at the grocery store gives me longing...
sotohana - I am so sorry to hear about your problems with the insurance company. I hope that it gets resolved quickly. This last BFN has definitely been the roughest for me. I hope you are feeling a little better by now.
twomommy - Thank you for the feedback on budget. That is so great that your mom offered to help. I hope you don't ever need to take her up on that but it's nice to know it's there! I know the feeling about just stopping the progesterone but I think your DP is giving good advice to wait it out. Does your RE do betas so you don't have to keep waiting?
lizbian - That's great about the bonus and money from real estate! Blood type and CMV status were not an issue at all when choosing our donor. Good luck tomorrow!!
escher - I didn't feel too good about the ultrasound. RE could only find 4 follicles on each ovary and when I asked her about my progesterone levels (she didn't remember that I retested) they were half of what they were last July when I first had them tested. I am glad I fought for the progesterone suppositories last cycle. I did start clomid today and then I go in on Tuesday, Feb 12th to see how I am responding to it. Much luck to you this upcoming cycle.
fmorris - Thank you so much for all of the info on prices and ways to cut costs. It is very much appreciated. I was so excited when the RX for clomid was 6 bucks lol. I guess it's the little things these days...I was looking up IVF prices and stories and it just seems like so much to go through at such a high cost. I don't think DW would ever go for it. It's looking like if I don't get pregnant this cycle I will take a break for a few months and we might try switching to her uterus to see if our luck is any better.
KWPX2 - So sorry to hear about AF. Much luck to you next cycle and I have to add that your dad sounds like such a gem!
granite - So excited for your upcoming insem! How does clomid work with your cycles? I am wondering if I will ovulate early, on time or later this month. I was holding a 3mo a lot this weekend and I didn't experience the flushed thing but my heart was definitely full! We will have her for an entire day (while her moms go snowboarding) later this month and I am really looking forward to it.
AFM - Wow, this has been a crazy last few days. DW and I have been talking a lot and she is a lot more stressed about all of this than I knew. She is still very upset with RE about the test results and feels that we have wasted all of our savings on pointless insems. While we were wine tasting with friends she said she would actually be up for us trying her uterus this year if need be. In the past she has said she would want to wait a couple of years. I am really struggling with that because I want to carry so badly. We decided this would be my last cycle for a few months so I could work on getting my eggs healthier and begin saving up again. We don't have the money to keep doing this and DW is becoming a wreck about how tight things are. I think this will be best for us and I could use a few months to see if I can get my eggs in better shape with all the supplements I am taking. I am also looking into acupuncture and possibly some herbs. Anyone care to share how much it costs for acupuncture? I am wondering if it's something we can afford. I started clomid today and I am praying for a miracle. It would be such a relief to see some larger follicles when I go in next Tuesday to check progress. If the follies are small, I will do one more U/S this cycle and if there still hasn't been growth we wont insem. I am not going to rely on OPKs because I am pretty sure I have been ovulating immature follicles all along.
FX for your u/s result, Darcy! Grow, follies! My "usual" O is like CD23 (due to PCOS, varies wildly), and the last clomid cycle I did (November) had me O on CD18, so I was earlier than normal. However, I've heard of some folks going later, so I suppose it depends on your other hormone levels. Let us know how the clomid affects you... I hope you avoid the common side effects!
I'm a huge proponent of acupuncture. I have used it to treat asthma, anxiety, carpal tunnel syndrome, and of course fertility issues!
I used to get it at the student-run clinic at one of my city's schools of traditional Chinese medicine (TCM), where I paid $11 when I was a student and $22 when I was working. This was for an in-depth consultation with a 3rd or 4th year TCM student, who then had their treatment plan confirmed with a supervising doctor before going ahead. Most sessions were 1 to 1.5 hours long, and I saw the same student for the length of my course of treatment.
More recently, a community-style acupuncture clinic opened in my city (see https://www.pocacoop.com/ for more info), and I went there weekly for over a year (for TTC and fertility, starting in fall of 2011). At this clinic, treatment is in reclining chairs in a large room that seats 10 clients. Appointments are 10 minutes apart, so when I'd arrive, I'd have the doctor's attention for at least that amount of time (and always more if needed!). We would chat, then she would stick needles in me, and I would lie there for around 45 minutes, usually falling asleep. The cost was sliding scale, $20-40, though there were always special deals and punch-cards and stuff, so I paid about $10 per session (but also went at least once a week!).
At that clinic, I met my current acupuncturist. When she first needled me, I cried... And whereas the previous doctor had always removed needles that made me feel uncomfortable, this doc asked if I could sit with the feeling and breathe through it. Her treatments were a revelation, and so when she left the clinic I began seeing her privately. It's $50 for an hour, which seems pricey, especially since I'm going 2x/week right now... But I think it's a fair wage for her work, and I really think it's helping.
Sorry for the essay! I hope it's useful info.
Wow! Thank you for all of the info. It's very useful!! I also got a message about some community places in San Diego and I will be calling them tomorrow. It's very affordable and something I originally thought would be way too expensive. It sounds like you have had pretty good experiences! I can't wait to try it!
Scorpio, stopping is so hard. We were brought to a grinding halt (DW got appendicitis exactly a month before her fibroid removal surgery date, and everything just fell apart after that, so we decided not to keep going and to take a break). The break is hard and has caused a lot of tension. I hope you guys are able to get back into the game feeling refreshed and ready to tackle it again.
Darcy, my acupuncturist is pregnant with twins (as an "accident"), sooooooo guess it works!!! One of the local fertility clinics does acupuncture after your IVF embryo transplant because the studies have been nothing but positive, and when you're shelling out $12,000, you want to do EVERYTHING possible. I would suggest finding a counsellor too, just to help you guys work through this. I didn't realize how badly our fertility crap was impacting us until I realized that we weren't talking, just being cross or snippy or upset with each other constantly, which is a really shitty way to live with your partner.
darcy - sorry to hear DW is finding everything so hard, although I'm not surprised at how angry she is. Communication is so important, isn't it and I think sometimes we take it for granted, and take for granted that our partners always feel the same way as us. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
AFM Had my ultrasound today (day 10). There is inconclusive evidence of PCOS so going to have to address it some time for a long term plan but right now I have other things on my mind! One of my follies is looking good - 12mm so far so should be a good size when it comes to next weekend as long as it keeps growing at a normal speed. Looking at houses as we want to move but not sure moving and trying to get pregnant at the same time is a good idea, esp if we buy somewhere that needs renovation!
Our swim team has started its marathon, excited about watching its progress as Friederike has said before. YAY!
KWPX2: I'm sorry about the bfn. It sounds like you have a good attitude moving forward. It's sweet that your dad is being so supportive.
2justicemamas: I did use the clearblue fertility monitor when TTC our son and my wife is using it now. I think it is normal to get a lot of high days the first cycle or two you use it. I think that after it gets used to your cycles you're likely to get fewer high days before you get your peak. How are you liking the monitor so far?
SanDiego: What nutrition powder is your wife using? There seem to be a ton of options out there.
Twomommyfamily: The last few days of the TWW can be hard. I hope that you get fantastic news soon!
Lizbian: It's exciting that you're getting all set up for your insem!
Friederike: I'm glad that the TWW is treating you well so far. I'm impressed that you're going to try to wait until Sunday to test.
Scorpioma: I think it is always hard to decide when to take a break. In my experience a break can be a great time to try things and get everything in order, but it can also be very hard to take time off. Good luck deciding what you want to do in February.
Granite: A Valentine's day baby sounds like fun! I remember being pretty obsessed with babies when we were TTC the first time (and when we were pregnant). It's interesting that you had such a strong reaction to acupuncture. I did acupuncture for about a year when TTC our son, but I never felt any impact from it.
Darcy: How is the clomid making you feel so far? I'm sorry that your DW is so stressed about the process. I have my fingers firmly crossed that it works for you this cycle!
AFM: We have a phone consultation with our RE this Wednesday and I'm a bit nervous about it. I'm quite sure she is going to recommend clomid, which is not what we want right now, and I hope that she is ok with our plan of trying acupuncture and supplements instead. Obviously we can ultimately do whatever we want, but I would rather have her support.