February 2013 Chit Chat « Back to Group Discussions

[Jaimee]

September

LunaLady- Christina: 9/19, baby boy Rhyko

October

TTCChloeorConner- Nicole: 10/31 baby boy Conner Dean, 8lbs2oz. 20'' long. 6:14pm

Early November

Seraf- Sara: 11/1, baby boy Shay born in the car, 8lb14oz

Mal85- Mallory: 11/2, baby girl Greta

EonJourney- Nicole: 11/3, identical twin boys Ember Trail 5.7 oz and Roam Freely 5.6 oz

SoCaliMommy- Kami: 11/4 baby boy Harlan Drake,  6:48pm at 10lbs even 21 1/2"

Lali812- Eulix: 11/16 baby boy Angel.

Autumnshades- Sonja: 11/7, baby boy Elijah Matthias, 6:25am, 6 lbs 10 oz, 20 inches long

MrsKatie- Katie: 11/10, baby girl Catherine Anne was born at 1:21pm.  7lbs 10oz and 21 inches long. 

Mid November

Jill the Pill- Jill: 11/11, baby girl Audrey Catharine 6lbs 5oz 19 inches long

TalkToMeNow- Amanda: 11/12, baby boy Jasper Conley, 12:42 pm,  8 lbs 11 oz.

Paigekitten- Katie: 11/12, baby girl Eowyn Jane, 6:09 pm, 8 lbs 3.9 oz, 21 inches

KayPea- Kirsten: 11/13, baby boy Oren Edward Adams, 5:45pm, 9lbs 11oz, 21 in long, 15in head!

wellforth - Carey: 11/15, baby boy Luca Qrzwin, 9:52 p.m., at home natural waterbirth, 7lbs9oz, 22"

LiLStar- Rachel: 11/16, baby boy Evan Curtis, 11 lbs, 15" head

Becky Wheeler- Becky: 11/19, baby boy Levi Jaxon, 10:50am, UC

jhsmama11-Amber: 11/19, baby boy Jack Henry

Late November

jbk21- J: 11/24, baby boy Dylan Timothy born in the caul

dashley111- Ash:  11/24, baby girl Bettie Grey, 7:03pm, 7lbs15oz, 21"

birdhappy85- Joanie:  11/24, baby girl Sora Nina, 3:39pm, 7lb 6oz, 19-1/2 in long

ZippyGirl- Anthia:  11/24, baby boy Bode McGuire born at 6:14 a.m.

glassesgirlnj - Kathy: 11/28, baby girl Annamaria Sigyn Estelle, 7lbs even, 19.75 in, 8:09pm

KaliShanti- Kali: 11/29, baby boy Enoch Noble Grandison , 8 lbs 7 oz. 21.25 in, 11:45pm

Zoopath: 11/30 baby girl Teagan 5lbs 9oz, 19 inches long

December

abraisme- Abra: 12/1, baby girl Coralie Katherine, 8lbs1oz, 19.75", 2pm

Jaimee: 12/3, baby boy Avery River, 6lbs14oz, 21", 4:21pm

Edited by Jaimee - 2/27/13 at 11:18am

[seraf]

Happy February.

That needle swallowing is crazy!

[Becky Wheeler]

Happy February and happy Superbowl!

[seraf]

Did the groundhog see it's shadow?

[Becky Wheeler]

I have no idea and I don't care. lol It's been super mild here. February is supposed to be Montana's coldest month but it's been warm and barely sputtering snow.

[birdhappy85]

I'm still wondering how a cat swallows a needle...

Sora has been waking up around midnight every.single.night for the past 6 nights and scream-crying inconsolably for.freakin.ever until she finally settles down with a cup of warm milk. I feel so bad for her and don't know what to do to help. It's unlike any behavior she ever had before with night wake-ups. Doesn't seem to be teething-related. Night terrors maybe? I sure hope it's just a short phase and resolves quickly. Maybe I'll start trying to potty train her and see if that helps. She does seem to need a diaper change when she has the wake-up.

[Jaimee]

No, he didn't see his shadow!  So that means an early spring!  Of course yesterday and today we've had a few inches of snow...

[Jaimee]

Originally Posted by birdhappy85 

Sora has been waking up around midnight every.single.night for the past 6 nights and scream-crying inconsolably for.freakin.ever until she finally settles down with a cup of warm milk. I feel so bad for her and don't know what to do to help. It's unlike any behavior she ever had before with night wake-ups. Doesn't seem to be teething-related. Night terrors maybe? I sure hope it's just a short phase and resolves quickly. Maybe I'll start trying to potty train her and see if that helps. She does seem to need a diaper change when she has the wake-up.

Night terrors are freaky... the child will be inconsolable and any contact will make things worse.  They don't appear to be asleep or fully awake and pretty much there is nothing you can do while it's happening until they stop b/c it's neurological.  Nightmares are more common and the child can be woken up and consoled, talked to, etc.  Which does it seem like Sora is having?   It is also possible she needs to pee.  I've heard of some kids screaming and crying b/c of this.  You could try offering her the potty at night and seeing if that eases her distress.  I'm not sure that I'd go so far as to "potty train" at this age... I'd wait until 17-18ish months for that at the earliest unless you have been ECing pretty consistently for a while now....?

[seraf]

I think people start EC right up to potty training age. I don't think that will help, but you can surely offer. Maybe she's coming down with something? Shay did that when he had the pox and Soren did it for a few nights before this illness. With Soren it helped to take him into a well lit room and calm him down.

[TalkToMeNow]

We have our own groundhog down here in the South, ya'll. His name is General Beauregard Lee and he lives in a tiny little plantation. I am not kidding. We L-O-V-E the Civil War. :eyeroll. Anyway, the general predicted six more weeks of winter for us. And I guess I'll have to believe him... We don't trust no Yankee groundhog round these parts.


In case you were wondering, I don't actually say ya'll in real life.......

[seraf]

Originally Posted by TalkToMeNow 

We have our own groundhog down here in the South, ya'll. ...
In case you were wondering, I don't actually say ya'll in real life.......

Hopefully there are quite a few groundhogs in the south.

I say y'all in real life, but since you and I spell it differently, we might pronounce it differently, too.

[birdhappy85]

Originally Posted by Jaimee 

Night terrors are freaky... the child will be inconsolable and any contact will make things worse.  They don't appear to be asleep or fully awake and pretty much there is nothing you can do while it's happening until they stop b/c it's neurological.  Nightmares are more common and the child can be woken up and consoled, talked to, etc.  Which does it seem like Sora is having?   It is also possible she needs to pee.  I've heard of some kids screaming and crying b/c of this.  You could try offering her the potty at night and seeing if that eases her distress.  I'm not sure that I'd go so far as to "potty train" at this age... I'd wait until 17-18ish months for that at the earliest unless you have been ECing pretty consistently for a while now....?

I think it is night terrors and not nightmares.  The first night it happened, I was crying while watching Sora have her fit because when nothing worked to console her, I suddenly recognized how similar her behavior was to what I experienced my entire childhood with night terrors... She gets a blank look in her eyes and cannot.stop.crying, ends up screaming bloody murder (no joke) when I make attempts to hold her close or talk to her... It's so scary. Knowing how terrifying night terrors were for me makes it unbearable to watch Sora go through it. I scared the heck out of my family when I was a kid. I even have a rare night terror every other year to this day in adulthood. It's unusual. It's so hard to describe night terrors to people who have never experienced them, and for children it's virtually impossible to communicate what they're experiencing. If my parents were able to wake me up fully, they'd ask me to describe what was scary, and I could never tell them. I will always remember how frustrating that felt! I couldn't remember a nightmare source or anything. I wish I had known back then that it was just a neurological issue because I would rack my brain forever trying to remember a nightmare that clearly never existed...

The reason I thought of potty training is because it helped me as a kid when my mom would make sure I peed before I went to bed or would try to keep me from drinking too much close to bedtime. It seemed like the urge to pee while asleep sometimes triggered me waking into another stage of sleep that put me into night terror mode.

I just have no idea how to help Sora with this. I need to research this topic. It's making me sick to my stomach to think of her going through this... Really, night terrors were one of the most traumatizing parts of my childhood. I don't think I ever had them this early, though! She's only 14 months old!

[dashley111]

Amanda- your crackin me up!

Nicole- that sounds like a crazy night! I can totally see how a dog would eat a needle. We have a long list of things my dog has eaten. He is not a critic, he will eat Nything.


We have spent 2 nights in the ER. The first night the doctor had made up her mind that B had Norovirus before she even entered our room. She completely dismissed all my concerns and sent us home with 2 doses of Zofran. TWO doses. So of course after those doses were gone B was still vomiting. She was completely lethargic all day yesterday. Then the vomiting got so bad we took her back. Spent 3.5 hours in the waiting room. They told me not to nurse her, so after 3.5 hours I was pissed off enough that I did anyways- what kind of people want you to starve a dehydrated lethargic baby while you wait for hours? My refusal to comply really for the nurses attention. Haha. Bettie had meds, an IV and an ultrasound within 30 minutes. Her ketones were very high, and her blood sugar was very low. So we are home after fluids and her keeping down breast milk. She has not eaten since Wednesday and is still refusing anything but nursing. She is still lethargic. But not vomiting any more. I have no idea what to do aside from keep nursing her and hope she perks up.

[Jaimee]

Originally Posted by seraf 

I think people start EC right up to potty training age. I don't think that will help, but you can surely offer. Maybe she's coming down with something? Shay did that when he had the pox and Soren did it for a few nights before this illness. With Soren it helped to take him into a well lit room and calm him down.

Right, just wondering how much Sora has been using the potty since potty training will be near impossible if she hasn't really been ECing lately.  I've also never been a fan of limiting fluids prior to bed, wanting to respect my kids' need to drink a lot of water.  But this does lead to the need to pee at night for little kids.  Austin still frequently wakes to pee in the night and Avery pees at least once a night.  Both kids are disturbed enough by the need to pee that they fully wake.  Even Avalon woke up the other night needing to pee and was crying about it b/c she didn't want to be awake and out of bed.  I would think it possible that the need to pee could cause odd shifts in sleep cycles that might lead to disturbed sleep that could lead to more nightmares or night terrors.  Austin has semi-frequent nightmares and he is always calmed down by going to the bathroom, waking up more fully to do so, and then going back to bed.  I think it could help to offer her the potty if she still knows what it's for.

I have some friends whose kids had night terrors this young and they continued until they found the trigger.  Easier said than done, right?  But there is some evidence they are linked to food allergies.  Are you guys still doing GAPS?  I know you mentioned that Sora gets stuff at daycare that you can't really control.  If you can identify some potential foods then you could tell your daycare that she is allergic to them and then they'll need to respect that.  Gluten is a biggie with night terrors, I've heard.  I'm sorry you and she are going through this... maybe like Sara said, it's just an illness coming on and will pass quickly.

[Jaimee]

Originally Posted by dashley111 

We have spent 2 nights in the ER. The first night the doctor had made up her mind that B had Norovirus before she even entered our room. She completely dismissed all my concerns and sent us home with 2 doses of Zofran. TWO doses. So of course after those doses were gone B was still vomiting. She was completely lethargic all day yesterday. Then the vomiting got so bad we took her back. Spent 3.5 hours in the waiting room. They told me not to nurse her, so after 3.5 hours I was pissed off enough that I did anyways- what kind of people want you to starve a dehydrated lethargic baby while you wait for hours? My refusal to comply really for the nurses attention. Haha. Bettie had meds, an IV and an ultrasound within 30 minutes. Her ketones were very high, and her blood sugar was very low. So we are home after fluids and her keeping down breast milk. She has not eaten since Wednesday and is still refusing anything but nursing. She is still lethargic. But not vomiting any more. I have no idea what to do aside from keep nursing her and hope she perks up.

I'm so sorry Ash!!!  That sounds stressful, exhausting, and highly worrisome for you!  How are you holding up?  I'm glad to hear that she's holding something down right now.  Hopefully the fluids will revive her a bit and the breastmilk will get her going again soon!  She's just been miserable for days, I'm sure it will take a bit to balance her body back out such that she's feeling up to herself again.  We were given a few doses of zofran for Austin when he threw up for 5 days and it really did the trick, breaking the cycle.  I hope that the meds she got at the ER will do the trick as well.  I've got a friend with norovirus right now and she's been laid out for 5 days now.  I hear 5 days is the turning point for most.  FX that she's on mend now and no one else gets it!  ((HUGS))

[TalkToMeNow]

So sorry, Ash! I hope she feels better soon. I think the fact that the vomiting is a great sign. Hugs!

Sara, see I don't even know how to spell y'all!!! That's how non-Southern I am. I've actually said it a few times, and my girls get on my case about it. I taught HS English, I'm a grammar nerd, I'm always correcting grammar. So when I slip up, they love the opportunity to get on my case. Of course, by the look of most of my posts, you'd think proper grammar and I hadn't been introduced....

[KaliShanti]

Hugs, Ash. That sounds terrible! I hope she is better soon!! When my daughter had a throwing up viris, she threw up for about a week and was still on and off for almost 10 days. She pretty much could handle breastmilk and that's it.

My first postpartum period arrived today. Whoo hoo. :\

[dashley111]

Thanks for the reassurance guys. bettie has been up playing for a few minutes today, which is hopeful. I'm not sure if its Noro, as only 3 of 5 of us have gotten it and Noro is very highly contagious. I'm just praying it stays away from me and Phoenix. DH has it now, so him and both girls have been sick so far.

[Jaimee]

Austin's birthday picture was chosen to be on the label of Organic/Fair Trade Lizzy's Fresh Coffee B*Day blend!  This means friends and family can enjoy 30% off for the month of February!  Just use code: PH93174

http://www.lizzysfreshcoffee.com/coffee-bday-12-oz.html

 

[seraf]

Yay for Bettie feeling marginally better.

Jaimee, that's pretty cool.