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post #61 of 335

Is anyone here working on a birth plan? I downloaded a template from Karen Gromada but I'm not sure about it. Right now both babies are breech and big and according to the OB might be running out of room and time to flip, so I'm trying to think about c-sections and when to do an epidural and what that experience would be like.

post #62 of 335
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I haven't worked one up yet, but I liked the one in this thread and planned to use most of it with a few revisions: http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1367373/twin-birth-plan

I hope your babies flip for you Jess! I'm worried mine are going to end up transverse as they seem to like that position the best, but mine definitely still have room to move as they move around noticeably just about every day.
post #63 of 335

jessmn how far along are you? Acacia, my baby B flipped from vertex to breech at 37 weeks. I was still able to do a vaginal birth since Cambrie, Baby A, was vertex. I was just so amazed that they had enough room to flip that far along.

post #64 of 335

I just got a bunch of tops from Old Navy on sale too. The ruched side ones (3/4 sleeve) are crazy long!  I am only 24 weeks, so I may need the room, but for now they are hitting me mid-thigh (I am 5'8").  I was keeping in mind the need for length and bought all the ones the reviewers were complaining were too long, haha.

 

We are now re-envisioning our birth plan.  We had been planning a home birth, but once we found out about twins, that's not an option.  Our midwives do hospital births too,at a hospital that's baby friendly and pretty naturally minded, but all the logistics are so overwhelming... specifically the care for our older boys.  I really loved everything about my last home birth and I'm mourning that loss this time.  

 

This cool youtube video on multiple natural birth is inspiring me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E-wULAaD50&feature=player_embedded#!

post #65 of 335
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I haven't worked one up yet, but I liked the one in this thread and planned to use most of it with a few revisions: http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1367373/twin-birth-plan

I hope your babies flip for you Jess! I'm worried mine are going to end up transverse as they seem to like that position the best, but mine definitely still have room to move as they move around noticeably just about every day.

oh yes I remember someone had posted one recently! I'll take a look at that one. I'm so on the fence about a lot of the procedures and monitoring and whatnot - I guess I just don't know enough about a lot of it. My doula is going to help walk me through what a lot of it means, though.

 

I hope they do, too! They seem to move around a lot, but I can't tell if they are flipping. Luckily of the two, A is the super active one so at least he has the best chance of flipping.

 

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jessmn how far along are you? Acacia, my baby B flipped from vertex to breech at 37 weeks. I was still able to do a vaginal birth since Cambrie, Baby A, was vertex. I was just so amazed that they had enough room to flip that far along.

wow 37 weeks so there is hope! I think my mom said my brother flipped around then, too, from breech to vertex (we're twins). I'll be 31 weeks this Sunday. That must have been quite the experience for B to do a whole flip with so little room. Babies are measuring pretty big so I guess the doc thought that I was running out of room, but I just don't know what's possible. Even our twins class instructor said they like to see twins in the ideal positions by now. But I'm hoping that because A is really active, he'll be more likely to move where we need him to be.

post #66 of 335
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I just got a bunch of tops from Old Navy on sale too. The ruched side ones (3/4 sleeve) are crazy long!  I am only 24 weeks, so I may need the room, but for now they are hitting me mid-thigh (I am 5'8").  I was keeping in mind the need for length and bought all the ones the reviewers were complaining were too long, haha.

We are now re-envisioning our birth plan.  We had been planning a home birth, but once we found out about twins, that's not an option.  Our midwives do hospital births too,at a hospital that's baby friendly and pretty naturally minded, but all the logistics are so overwhelming... specifically the care for our older boys.  I really loved everything about my last home birth and I'm mourning that loss this time.  

This cool youtube video on multiple natural birth is inspiring me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E-wULAaD50&feature=player_embedded#!
Love that video!
post #67 of 335

A "fun" story:

 

The last couple days I have been waking up in the early morning not feeling so hot - shaky, sweaty, nauseous, etc. It happened this morning and I was paranoid about preterm labor and what was going on anyways so we went in. I think we got there around 5am. Of course they hooked me up to every monitor known to man and ran a million tests. It happened again while we were there, and I got sick. Then it happened again but luckily I didn't get sick :) They checked my blood pressure during it the second time and it was 58/34.

Every test came back normal, so they weren't 100% sure what was going on. It could be that I am sleeping funny and was laying funny while there and the babies were pressing on an important artery. My mom had that and was on bed rest for the last of her pregnancy with my brother and me. The other idea is that I'm not getting enough protein before bed, which makes sense because I have been less hungry in general lately so I'm obviously not getting the ideal amount of protein. Or iron, although I'm now taking iron supplements (did I tell you guys my doctor's office ran my iron several weeks ago and never called to tell me it was low?! And here I am walking around like a zombie the whole time). And I had to have an IV after the second episode!! Never had one of those and really don't want to again, ick.

In good news they ran a test to see if I would have babies in the next two weeks, fetal fibronectin test. If the test comes back negative, it means there was no traces of this "glue" that holds the amniotic sac to the uterus, so it's 99.2% sure that you won't have them in the next two weeks. Mine came back negative, woohoo!

My goal is to continue with my new iron supplement, continue drinking as much water as possible, and up the protein. I calculated what I regularly eat (although nowadays that I'm less hungry I might not eat the yogurt, or almonds, or we might not have chicken for dinner or something like that) and am getting about 118 grams of protein a day, and the recommended amount for twins is 130-170. So I've got to figure out how to up that and just remind myself to eat even if I'm not hungry...Here's what I regularly eat:

 

  • breakfast -

oatmeal 4g

  • snacks -

greek yogurt 14g

string cheese 8g

cottage cheese 14g

almonds 8g

protein bar 10g

apples and peanut butter 7g (in pb)

  • lunch -

usually includes 1/2 a chicken breast 15g

  • dinner -

usually includes 1/2 a chicken breast 15g

  • before bed -

protein shake before bed 23g

mixed in 2% milk 8g

 

Any tips for getting more protein in?
 

post #68 of 335
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Sorry about your BP dropping, though I'm glad it happened while you were at the doctor so they could see it!

I would definitely at least add a snack between lunch and dinner. I finally gotten to the point of less hunger this past weekend so I've been reminding myself to eat. I also seem to be able to eat extra in the morning, so I try to eat something small before I leave (like a string cheese or toast with liversausage) and then pick something up to eat when I get to work too, so I have sort of a pre-breakfast snack plus a snack between each meal and a snack before bed. If you like cereal, Kashi & probably others have some good high protein cereals, sometimes I'll even add some protein powder to them to boost a bit more if you can find one you like (I find vanilla flavored ones usually are the best). I also find greek yogurt ice cream can be a nice tasty way to get some protein in when you really aren't feeling like anything else.

I had a dream about giving birth to the twins last night, so that was interesting! I also got to see my belly moving last night during some powerful kicks, so that was fun. MFM tomorrow, hopefully everything continues to be ok. I need to try and get there early and talk billing with them though, every appointment has been billed weirdly and differently from them and my insurance is paying all for one and almost none for the next so I need to get them billing things consistently in an insurance-paying way! Though I'm almost ready to just throw up my hands (I've called my insurance co so many times this pregnancy, ugh) as I'm sure we'll hit the deductible this year regardless and then they will pay for everything anyway, ugh!
post #69 of 335
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Sorry about your BP dropping, though I'm glad it happened while you were at the doctor so they could see it!

I would definitely at least add a snack between lunch and dinner. I finally gotten to the point of less hunger this past weekend so I've been reminding myself to eat. I also seem to be able to eat extra in the morning, so I try to eat something small before I leave (like a string cheese or toast with liversausage) and then pick something up to eat when I get to work too, so I have sort of a pre-breakfast snack plus a snack between each meal and a snack before bed. If you like cereal, Kashi & probably others have some good high protein cereals, sometimes I'll even add some protein powder to them to boost a bit more if you can find one you like (I find vanilla flavored ones usually are the best). I also find greek yogurt ice cream can be a nice tasty way to get some protein in when you really aren't feeling like anything else.

I had a dream about giving birth to the twins last night, so that was interesting! I also got to see my belly moving last night during some powerful kicks, so that was fun. MFM tomorrow, hopefully everything continues to be ok. I need to try and get there early and talk billing with them though, every appointment has been billed weirdly and differently from them and my insurance is paying all for one and almost none for the next so I need to get them billing things consistently in an insurance-paying way! Though I'm almost ready to just throw up my hands (I've called my insurance co so many times this pregnancy, ugh) as I'm sure we'll hit the deductible this year regardless and then they will pay for everything anyway, ugh!

 

I guess I should have spaced out my foods better, I do eat a bunch between lunch and dinner, it just depends on what I haven't already eaten between breakfast and lunch :) I hadn't thought of adding protein powder to cereal. Sometimes I'll eat that before bed, so that would be a good boost, too.

 

haha! I'm impressed you had a dream about twins! In my dreams there is only one, I don't think my brain can handle two yet :) Or maybe there are two - mostly my dreams consist of me leaving a baby somewhere and then later wondering if someone should be feeding it or changing its diaper. So maybe those are two babies left in different places :P

 

My insurance has been good to me so far. I have already met my deductible so I should be pretty good to go the rest of the pregnancy, although I have to clarify what they cover with regards to hospital visits like mine yesterday, and then the hospital visit for when the babies come. The wording in their official documents is confusing!

post #70 of 335
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Yeah, insurance is very confusing! I think I have it all sorted out now, doesn't sound like they can change the way they bill, but oh well, I'm going to meet my deductible soon most likely and definitely once I give birth, so I'm just going to not worry about it.

MFM appointment went really well, the doctor said she wished all the twins they saw were this well behaved smile.gif I'm 28w5d and Baby our girl is 3lb2oz and Baby B our boy is 3lb4oz, A is breech and B is vertex and they are facing each other right now which was cute, so that is good progress from both being transverse most of the time, hopefully A will flip and B will stay put! Cervix still looks great and they said they won't even check it next time as they don't usually check it after 32 weeks unless I'm having lots of pressure or whatever, they'll just check sizes and whatnot again in 4 weeks. So hopefully they keep growing well, they are still ~1-2 weeks ahead which is good.
post #71 of 335

oh man, insurance is so crazy. i almost lost my mind trying to figure out if we would have 2 new deductibles and out of pocket maximums to meet once the babies are born. it turns out we only have one more deductible & out of pocket max - the second baby is free! (well, not totally free but at least in that regard) it took me hours and hours of phone calls to get someone to actually confirm that. 

 

jess - how are you feeling today? i would suggest switching to steel cut oats instead of regular oatmeal for extra protein. and if you're eating a carb alongside your chicken, you could swap it out for quinoa, which has extra protein. your snacks look a lot like my list! that BP is crazy low! i hope you're doing well.

post #72 of 335
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oh man, insurance is so crazy. i almost lost my mind trying to figure out if we would have 2 new deductibles and out of pocket maximums to meet once the babies are born. it turns out we only have one more deductible & out of pocket max - the second baby is free! (well, not totally free but at least in that regard) it took me hours and hours of phone calls to get someone to actually confirm that. 

 

jess - how are you feeling today? i would suggest switching to steel cut oats instead of regular oatmeal for extra protein. and if you're eating a carb alongside your chicken, you could swap it out for quinoa, which has extra protein. your snacks look a lot like my list! that BP is crazy low! i hope you're doing well.

hm I didn't even think about that with twins and insurance. I'm going to have to call and ask now, too! Wait - don't you have Group Health? Maybe you did the legwork for me :)

 

I'm okay - I've felt super bloated since the visit - anyone think that could be the IV fluid? Or maybe a coincidence. My belly feels so giant and tight, but when I poke it, it's squishy. I think the babies definitely moved to different positions because I am feeling them less, which has me worried but I'm trying not to freak out. They used to be so jumpy and active. I think we made them mad with all the monitoring and following them around at triage. And if they moved, I can see how I would feel their regular movements differently. I also can see how if I'm bloated I would feel them less.

 

I will look into steel cut oats, thanks, and I completely forgot about quinoa! Yeah that's what people are telling me about the BP. I'm trying not to think about it! And that was the 2nd episode where I didn't even throw up, who knows what it was during the first. hm.

post #73 of 335

I have a combo aetna/group health insurance (uhm, it is a big mess), and this was on the aetna side of things. but i think the trick is to look at the family maximum deductible and family out of pocket max. 


Edited by mrsandmrs - 3/6/13 at 4:22pm
post #74 of 335

oh goodness I have another update.

 

I had a NST today and while babies were doing great, I was having a lot of contractions (half of which I didn't feel, half I felt a tightening). The nurse called my doc and he came over to visit and talk in person (I was very happy about that) and sent me off for a cervix length ultrasound check. That turned out to be normal (woo!) but they checked the positions of the babies and Baby A is breech with his butt stuck in my pelvis and Baby B is transverse/breech. Their little heads are together which I think it pretty adorable.

 

At any rate, I'm feeling very disappointed because I have never had any kind of surgery and I'm terrified of hospitals and I don't want to have a c section. I'm 31 weeks and 5 days and last we knew (28 week growth ultrasound) babies were measuring quite a bit ahead, not leaving much room for them to move. I have another growth ultrasound next week.

(I'm just letting myself mope for a minute here. I know there are some things I can do to help them flip and that a c section is not the end of the world.)
 

post #75 of 335
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Jess, I hope your babies flip for you soon! Sounds like they are still moving around in there some though even if they aren't getting in the right spots so that's something, c'mon babies you can do it! I'm the same as you, I don't want a C/S either, I'm a little bit nervous about it though I know it would be fine if I had to have one, but I just don't want to deal with the anesthesia (I react strongly to it as in I puke a lot and I tend to get knocked out hard from a light dose) or the recovery. My vaginal birth recovery was easy and I want that again and I also want another vaginal birth as this will be my last and it was such a powerful experience for me smile.gif

I do love when their heads are together, it's the cutest smile.gif Glad to hear the babies are doing well!
post #76 of 335

Jess, have you considered finding a chiropractor who has experience doing Webster technique on twins? There's one here in my small southern city, so I'm guessing you should have some options in Seattle. I've heard that with twins especially, chiros want to see patients sooner rather than later if you're trying to make them flip. Good luck!
 

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The babies at 19 weeks and 3 days. smile.gif
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AngelBee, your babies are adorable! 

 

Jess, I really hope the babies flip! Come on, babies! You can do it! Did the doctor give you any kind of timeline because of your contractions? 

 

My own, unrelated news - I passed my 1hr glucose test (yay!) and anemia test (yay again!). People keep telling me how small I look for someone who is carrying twins, and I know they mean it as a complement, but I am starting to freak out more and more that the babies might be too small, so now I am not so happy anymore to hear that I look so tiny :( My doctor so far hasn't been concerned with my weight gain, since she says that she expects the twins to be smaller than regular babies. But I don't want them to be small - don't want to think of a NICU as a given! We'll have our 28 week appointment next week, so I'll grill her about this issue again. 

post #79 of 335
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So cute AngelBee smile.gif

sophigirl, congrats on passing your tests lol.gif I would take what people say with a grain of salt. I've had people say I'll never make it to May and others say that I don't look that big eyesroll.gif I would talk to your doctor though, I don't want my twins to be small either so I've been very pleased that mine are measuring ahead by ~2 weeks, did they give you any estimated weights from any ultrasounds yet? How's your protein intake? I haven't had too much problem with eating enough until this past week because I've been pretty ravenous, but I know that isn't the case for everyone so it can be hard to get enough food in.
post #80 of 335

Alina, People can't tell the health of your pregnancy by looking at you and different women carry different ways. I hate when people act like medical professionals based on amateurish evaluations of your body. As if we are not already worrying about 12 million things. Just ask your doc to reassure you. 

 

 

Jess - I am excited for the point when I get really hungry! 14w and still very food averse. How are those multiple classes going? We were talking about figuring out if we could make their schedule (it's kind of drive, but maybe worth it?) so I'd be interested in hearing your feedback! 

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