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Jess, have you considered finding a chiropractor who has experience doing Webster technique on twins? There's one here in my small southern city, so I'm guessing you should have some options in Seattle. I've heard that with twins especially, chiros want to see patients sooner rather than later if you're trying to make them flip. Good luck!
 

I'm going to look into it - a bunch of people have been recommending it to me. I don't think my chiropractor must know it since he hasn't brought it up, but I haven't said anything about breech babies, either.

 

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Jess, I hope your babies flip for you soon! Sounds like they are still moving around in there some though even if they aren't getting in the right spots so that's something, c'mon babies you can do it! I'm the same as you, I don't want a C/S either, I'm a little bit nervous about it though I know it would be fine if I had to have one, but I just don't want to deal with the anesthesia (I react strongly to it as in I puke a lot and I tend to get knocked out hard from a light dose) or the recovery. My vaginal birth recovery was easy and I want that again and I also want another vaginal birth as this will be my last and it was such a powerful experience for me smile.gif

I do love when their heads are together, it's the cutest smile.gif Glad to hear the babies are doing well!

 

jeez I hope they do, too! I was so disappointed, and I could even hear the disappointment in the tech's voice when she told me. I think they are still doing quite a bit of moving - I feel more than just jabs and kicks, anyways. I've never had anesthesia but I have a feeling I would react strongly to it - drugs in general tend to affect me that way and I have a queasy stomach. I have heard so much about birth being powerful, and I don't want to miss out on that (we are 99.9% sure these are the only kiddos in our future!)

 

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AngelBee, your babies are adorable! 

 

Jess, I really hope the babies flip! Come on, babies! You can do it! Did the doctor give you any kind of timeline because of your contractions? 

 

My own, unrelated news - I passed my 1hr glucose test (yay!) and anemia test (yay again!). People keep telling me how small I look for someone who is carrying twins, and I know they mean it as a complement, but I am starting to freak out more and more that the babies might be too small, so now I am not so happy anymore to hear that I look so tiny :( My doctor so far hasn't been concerned with my weight gain, since she says that she expects the twins to be smaller than regular babies. But I don't want them to be small - don't want to think of a NICU as a given! We'll have our 28 week appointment next week, so I'll grill her about this issue again. 

He didn't say. I just called now actually because my contractions have been continuing but not changing in severity or increasing, and he said to just take it easy and stay super hydrated. He says I can go on bedrest if I want and he'll write it up, so I think that is what I'll do. I don't want to risk them coming early! My cervical length was 2.9 which he seemed happy with for twins (I haven't researched it or been able to talk to him in person yet). I just want them to stay in until April! Come onnnnnn, April!

 

haha a lot of people told me how small I was at first. Now they definitely don't (all I get are, "you must be due any day now!") but I know what you mean, it made me feel a little worried. I don't think anyone should expect twins to be smaller in that way, maybe when they are born but not yet - mine are on the high end of growth (93rd and 86th percentiles at our 28 week check), but I have heard they taper off growth towards the end, which is why you want to front load it. I'm hoping for some chunk to the babies so they can maintain their body temperatures! How much weight have you gained?

 

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Jess - I am excited for the point when I get really hungry! 14w and still very food averse. How are those multiple classes going? We were talking about figuring out if we could make their schedule (it's kind of drive, but maybe worth it?) so I'd be interested in hearing your feedback! 

 

ugh I think food and I didn't get along until maybe 16 or 18 weeks, and I was on Zofran so who knows. The whole 1st trimester and going into the 2nd was definitely the worst for me. Then it picked up and I felt amazing, and now I still feel generally great but huge and tired!

 

They are really good, I'm really happy we're taking them. Neither of us knows anything about pregnancy, delivery, or babies in general, so it's definitely informative and helps us feel more empowered. The UW course is supposed to be the best one (Swedish offers one as well). We have gotten to know the other couples in the class and everyone shares how they are doing and converses throughout the class. Every week a different couple brings something healthy to eat, like a mini dinner! It's great to hear others' questions that you might not have thought of or feel stupid for asking (and then I feel less stupid asking what is probably a stupid question!) Pretty frequently a guest family comes with their twins - we've had a family with two year olds and a family with 8 month olds come, and it was great to hear their pregnancy, birth, and parenting experiences, and how different they are, and of course see how they handle twins at those ages. The preterm labor class was really informative, and then we had one about labor and delivery in general and last week was labor and delivery of twins. I would say it's a bit more medical-oriented than, say, the Mothering community here, but it's a really good discussion of options for labor and delivery and understanding what those options mean (like if you don't get an epidural but Baby B is or becomes breech). The classes get out at about 9pm, and it's a bit of a drive for us - we usually get home by 10pm. Everyone else in the class lives in the Seattle area so I'm sure it's less of a hassle for them. We just get something to eat on the way home or eat quickly once home and go to bed. It's not too bad for once a week.

 

Also, if you want to take the series but aren't sure about the overlap of dates with your schedules or babies' arrival dates, they let you sign up for one and then contact the instructor and you can come to some classes in the earlier series. We had one class where two women who are signed up for the next class came to ours, and one of them is going to come to a few more of our classes rather than those same classes when her series begins.

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So I have been considering using cloth diapers with the twins, although I used disposables with my first 2 babies.  I was really hoping to EC (before I found out it was twins) but I don't know how I'll have the time to do it.  Is it worth the hassle of figuring out the new laundry system and all the extra work that comes with c/ds?  I've had several people tell me it's not much more work but I'm thinking ANY extra work will be too much!  Thoughts?
 

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mrandmrs, hopefully you will hit that hungry point soon, I know it took me longer this time to feel out of the first trimester, I assume the extra hormones did that.

Jess, the class sounds good, wish we had something around here like that! Glad your doc isn't worried about the contractions, sounds like they aren't causing trouble.

2babies2kidsmom, I intended to try cd with my DD, but I was too overwhelmed to even think about it at the start. If I hadn't gone back to work, I might have tried it as she got older, but it seemed like it would be a huge pain with daycare, pumping was enough of a hassle! It would save a lot of $$ for sure though and I don't think it really is that much more work and folks definitely have done it, even with twins.
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We used a diaper service early on, which was huge. I don't think we could have juggled everything in the beginning. But we cloth diapered our twins and did very very partial EC (put them on the potty for diaper changes when we felt like it) from the beginning. By a year we were setting them on the potty first thing when they woke up and wound up catching most poops. Which is to say, full-time EC is a lot a lot a work with twins, but you can add elements of it and might get benefits. (and when we didn't feel like it, we dropped it completely, then picked it up when we felt like it again) We had a couple of hand-me-down potties, but no other equipment. (I know some people get big into the equipment)

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We're going with a cloth diaper service. It's $27 every week for 140 diapers (what they suggest for newborn twins) and they drop off and pick up once a week. It includes two cans and two liners, and we just have to put the diapers straight from the babies into the cans, no rinsing or anything. It seems like a reasonable price for low hassle, but we'll see how it goes!
 

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We're doing CD with ours - almost 4 weeks into it now.  I don't feel like it's that much extra.  Most of the work is hanging them up to dry since we don't have a dryer - line drying is way cheaper but I don't think it's worth it anymore :p

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Brambleberry,

Im glad to hear you say that. We are about to start clothing. Our girls were just so little that the diapers have been too big on them. My "start date" for Cding is April 1st, and Im hoping to line dry- we'll see. I have to at least line dry my covers, Ive already destroyed covers once before by using the dryer. 

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This is what we are doing. I think it is 24/wk here for same deal. I am excited. smile.gif
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We're going with a cloth diaper service. It's $27 every week for 140 diapers (what they suggest for newborn twins) and they drop off and pick up once a week. It includes two cans and two liners, and we just have to put the diapers straight from the babies into the cans, no rinsing or anything. It seems like a reasonable price for low hassle, but we'll see how it goes!
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We're doing CD with ours - almost 4 weeks into it now.  I don't feel like it's that much extra.  Most of the work is hanging them up to dry since we don't have a dryer - line drying is way cheaper but I don't think it's worth it anymore :p

 

Brambleberry, I am planning on line-drying mine, too - several friends who are doing CD told me that it's actually better for the diapers. The sun is supposed to bleach them and do other good things for them :) Incidentally, do you have an HE washer or a regular kind? I have HE, and worry that the amount of water involved in the washing process might not be enough for flushing all the detergent out.

 

 

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We're going with a cloth diaper service. It's $27 every week for 140 diapers (what they suggest for newborn twins) and they drop off and pick up once a week. It includes two cans and two liners, and we just have to put the diapers straight from the babies into the cans, no rinsing or anything. It seems like a reasonable price for low hassle, but we'll see how it goes!
 

 

I wish we had your good deal here! I got hopeful after reading your post, and looked into local service pricing - here it's more like $80 a month, and that's for the regular amount (not twins) of diapers :(

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AngelBee, your babies are adorable! 

 

Jess, I really hope the babies flip! Come on, babies! You can do it! Did the doctor give you any kind of timeline because of your contractions? 

 

My own, unrelated news - I passed my 1hr glucose test (yay!) and anemia test (yay again!). People keep telling me how small I look for someone who is carrying twins, and I know they mean it as a complement, but I am starting to freak out more and more that the babies might be too small, so now I am not so happy anymore to hear that I look so tiny :( My doctor so far hasn't been concerned with my weight gain, since she says that she expects the twins to be smaller than regular babies. But I don't want them to be small - don't want to think of a NICU as a given! We'll have our 28 week appointment next week, so I'll grill her about this issue again. 

He didn't say. I just called now actually because my contractions have been continuing but not changing in severity or increasing, and he said to just take it easy and stay super hydrated. He says I can go on bedrest if I want and he'll write it up, so I think that is what I'll do. I don't want to risk them coming early! My cervical length was 2.9 which he seemed happy with for twins (I haven't researched it or been able to talk to him in person yet). I just want them to stay in until April! Come onnnnnn, April!

 

haha a lot of people told me how small I was at first. Now they definitely don't (all I get are, "you must be due any day now!") but I know what you mean, it made me feel a little worried. I don't think anyone should expect twins to be smaller in that way, maybe when they are born but not yet - mine are on the high end of growth (93rd and 86th percentiles at our 28 week check), but I have heard they taper off growth towards the end, which is why you want to front load it. I'm hoping for some chunk to the babies so they can maintain their body temperatures! How much weight have you gained?

Jess, any news on your contractions? 

 

To answer your question, I started out with normal BMI, and gained 28 lbs so far. I feel like I'm eating all the time, too...

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My appetite is definitely waning and I checked my weight this morning and I actually lost a pound or two! So I'm working on eating more this week. I have an OB appointment tomorrow, but it should be routine. I really want my girl to turn, but she's definitely still breech despite some pretty strong movements I was hoping were her turning. She still has time though!
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My appetite is definitely waning and I checked my weight this morning and I actually lost a pound or two! So I'm working on eating more this week. I have an OB appointment tomorrow, but it should be routine. I really want my girl to turn, but she's definitely still breech despite some pretty strong movements I was hoping were her turning. She still has time though!

 

How far are you now? Getting close to 30 weeks? I lost my appetite around then. It has actually picked up a bit since then, maybe because the babies have dropped, or because I just plain realized I wasn't eating enough!

 

Turn, baby girl!!! Is she your Baby B? My mom said my brother (the Baby B of the two of us) turned at the very last minute. I'm sure THAT was uncomfortable!!

 

I felt some strong movements from my Baby A the other night, it jolted me and made me feel sick, but I don't think he's moved. I can still feel hiccups in the same spot :( Trying a chiro and some spinning babies techniques today.

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Yup, 30 weeks on Friday and I definitely haven't dropped yet. My girl is baby A, so I really need her to turn! Here is hoping.
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I also need my babies to turn.  They said my girl was Baby A, and at 28 week u/s she was transverse.  Baby B (my boy) was breech.  Not sure how they even tell which is Baby A at this point.  I've been doing some kind of front inversion thingy but no luck yet.  I'm considering going to a chiropractor after I see what position the babies are in at next week's u/s.  When is the best time to go to the chiropractor?  I don't go normally, but I am willing to do alot to avoid a c/s!
 

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We've cloth diapered all our kids, including the twins, except for #1.  It is so super easy with newborns.  Because the poo is so highly liquid, you don't need to pre-rinse it, just throw it into the wash.  Sometimes people would give us a package of disposables here or there and I always ended up with blowouts in the early months.  I've almost never had a blowout with a cloth diaper.  So I figure, would I rather wash poop out of clothes or out of diapers? ;)  If you are washing diapers yourself, you do not need that many more diapers for twins (maybe 1.5x but not 2x).  You probably want double the covers.  Reason is, a washing load will only hold so many diapers, so you are going to have to wash more frequently.   I think I was doing a load every other day in the early days.  With a singleton, I could go every third day.

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I had a really good 32 week check up for the most part.

 

Bad news first: both babies are still breech. I am going to be seeing a chiropractor and acupuncturist and scouring the spinning babies website.

 

Good news: Baby A weighs 5 lbs 4oz and is measuring around 32 weeks for limbs, etc, but 35 weeks for tummy and head! So that averages to 34 weeks, or two weeks ahead, which he has been the whole time. Baby B is 4lbs 4oz and is measuring 32 weeks all around, which is normal for him, too. ALSO! Baby B's kidney looks normal now! WOOHOO. The perinatal doc thought it might figure itself out around 32 weeks and it did!  YAY BABY B.

 

We spent a long time with my OB today. He was back early from surgery and we were already there, so it just worked out in our favor. Which was good, because we had a lot of questions after visiting with our doula this morning.

  • When are they cutting Baby A's cord? Pretty much right away because his focus by then is getting Baby B out.
  • Can the doula be in the operating room? It's mostly up to the anesthesiologist but the anesthesiologists generally have a policy against too many "guests" so her and my husband may be able to switch but not be there at the same time.
  • When to come to the hospital? He said I can pretty much come to the hospital at any point in labor and they won't turn me away.
  • When is the Group B Test given? At 36 weeks so if I go into labor before then, then they just treat me as if I do have it.

 

Thoughts about any of this?

 

Other questions included:

  • How's my iron? My iron levels are increasing, although he admitted that first result (when I was in serious zombie mode) was really, really low. Which of course makes me pissed since they waited 2 weeks to call about it. But at least it's on the rebound now.
  • He was super happy with my blood pressure and felt my ankles and didn't see any sign of swelling, which he was also really impressed with.
  • He was also really happy with the cervical length and I am all clear to go back to work. I have orders to take it extra easy and drink water all day long (I've been drinking 3 liters a day and I hate water SO MUCH now).

 

Apparently I'm a model pregnant lady. So now my focus is on getting Baby A to turn!

 

I have questions for you all about epidural vs spinal, weighing the risks of not medicating and then needing to be medicated for Baby B, etc, but I need to think about how to articulate them and it's late at night right now!

 

 

Does anyone know of any birth videos of twins? My doula recommended getting more comfortable with the labor and delivery process by watching some videos, and I'm really interested in finding some twin videos.
 

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My appointment today went fine, OB did a quick ultrasound as she couldn't find baby girl's HB. Baby B (boy) is still head down on the right, but Baby A (girl) was hanging out with her butt in my pelvis and her head on the right next to Baby B and feet on the left. I'm hoping she will get her feet up, butt out and head in soon as she definitely still has room to move around, feels like she is moving around more again now so who knows! They do generally want to be head down, so here is hoping for all of us!

2babies2kidsmom, I'm not sure for twins, I think for singletons they tell you to wait until 32 weeks at least. Baby A is just whoever is closer to the exit, my girl has always been closest and stayed there since the start (~13 weeks) and apparently they don't switch too often. I'd probably call your chiro and ask what they think.

jessmn, so glad the kidney is looking normal now and your iron is better! And baby A is the same size as my DD when she was born, so woohoo there smile.gif
  • Hmm, the Baby A cord from what I've seen is pretty standard even though I don't like it, but it isn't one I would probably argue too much on.
  • Regarding your doula in the operating room, can you talk to the anesthesiologist(s) ahead of time? Probably not, but that sucks if your doula is not going to be able to come in.
  • As far as when to come to the hospital, that's something I've been thinking about myself. I want to wait until I'm in good active labor, but I also think maybe I should get there a little quicker than last time, hmm.
  • So you'll be given antibiotics regardless? Can they not test you for GBS early and then retest if needed? I would not want unnecessary antibiotics as that can lead to thrush which from what I hear sucks a lot! Also means IV for sure, but my guess is they will push that anyway.

I personally want to avoid epidurals, my OB earlier when we were talking seemed to be fine with not having to have one for a just-in-case, but I need to chat with her again and make sure. I don't like anesthesia and I want to be able to feel labor. I'm kind of just wanting to get to the hospital pretty late again so that most of this will just be a moot point because oh it's time to push now! Though I don't think they'll have me sitting in triage for as long if at all this time, dunno, should be interesting to see how the staff is with twins vs. singleton. Grats on being a model pregnant lady, I have been so far too! Not sure on videos, but I think it is a good idea to watch a few, I know there are tons out there on youtube and probably some twin ones as well. If I have time, I'll see what I can find tonight!
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Jess, good luck getting the babies to turn.  I am also going to start talking to chiropractors in my area. 

 

I am going to do the Group B Strep test several times, just in case I go into labor early.  Both my other labors started with my waters breaking, and the first time I hadn't had the test yet, so I had to get the antibiotics.  My OB is fine with me taking the test early but she said the results are only good for a couple of weeks.  I'm planning to do it at my 33 week and 35 week appointments.  The more I learn about antibiotics the more I want to avoid them if possible.

 

My doula told me the best way to avoid intervention is to wait as long as possible to go to the hospital.  Are you hoping for a natural birth or are you planning to get pain meds?  (Not judging either way).

 

I am also a little confused about the spinal/epidural.  I have read the spinal is safer, and when I asked my OB she said that's what they use for non-emergency C/Section, not epidural.  But I have also read part of the reason the hospitals want you to get an epidural when you're having twins is in case you need a c/section.  So do they use epidurals for c/section or not?  My plan, if I am able to have a vaginal birth, is to skip the epidural and just have general anesthesia in case of emergency c/section.  But my OB is only comfortable with that because this is not my first birth, so we know my pain tolerance is pretty high and my uterus is already stretchy.

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We used a diaper service early on, which was huge. I don't think we could have juggled everything in the beginning. But we cloth diapered our twins and did very very partial EC (put them on the potty for diaper changes when we felt like it) from the beginning. By a year we were setting them on the potty first thing when they woke up and wound up catching most poops. Which is to say, full-time EC is a lot a lot a work with twins, but you can add elements of it and might get benefits. (and when we didn't feel like it, we dropped it completely, then picked it up when we felt like it again) We had a couple of hand-me-down potties, but no other equipment. (I know some people get big into the equipment)

This pretty much describes our plan. I was going to do all prefolds with covers until we scored about 50 quality all-in-ones for $60. Yay, Craigslist! So when they are 9-10lbs we'll start using those. I'm still a little confused on the best way to clean them though. Is it okay to just throw the whole thing straight into a diaper pail where it will sit for maybe a day? Or do I need to remove all solids first thing and rinse before diaper pail? I still wash all my clothes like a guy in college, so I'm pretty clueless. 

 

To all the Mommas hoping their babies will turn vertex, I'm sending you good vibes for wriggly babies to make the flip. goodvibes.gif From my own experience so far, it seems Webster techniques can be done starting early on and should include a series of at least 6 sessions. The spinning babies website has a section focused on twins and different exercises depending on just how those babes are positioned. Moxabustion is considered a very stimulating therapy and therefore is usually done only after concerns about preterm labor have passed. And sometimes what you may need is a 4 hour ride on a VERY bumpy, winding, muddy jeep road after 30 weeks. It wasn't intended or enjoyed, but both babies flipped that week. ROTFLMAO.gif

 

A friend sent me this link for my "possibly, maybe, you never know with twins" C-section prep:     http://www.birthingfromwithin.com/cesarean

 

37 weeks on Friday. Waiting, waiting  .  .  .  waiting. *sigh 

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One can get an epidural with only a test dose of medicine. I got mine after half an hour of pushing. (we were trying for an "oops! Babies came too soon for the epidural, but they took a tiny bit longer than that) Which is to say, no anesthesia, and I didn't have to labor hooked up to anything (though I did push hooked up).

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