Are your child's other caregivers vaxed? Do you care? - Page 2

[glassesgirlnj]

Originally Posted by Kontessa 

 There is an option missing "I know they are vaccinated and it concerns me!" 

 My husband is forced to be vaccinated by the military. Some of these vaccines shed and the military is known to give vaccines that courts have told them they can not force on soldiers anyway. (Think anthrax) and it is a concern. It really bothers my husband as well. I have heard and said myself many times times "He gets vaccinated, we get sick." Sometimes he gets sick too! Sure enough, about 10 days after he got the flu mist this year I was really sick. With an autoimmune issue, I really don't deal with illness well. Thankfully our kids are very healthy and only seem to get a cold about once a year, either around when DH gets his flu shot or after we travel far. We don't tend to visit friends and family who have recently been vaccinated. 

Thanks, that's helpful feedback!  Do you know if there's a way for me to edit the poll to include that option? 

[Rrrrrachel]

Ok. Then I change my answer to I don't know, I'm not really worried about it, and I'm not sure it's any of my business.

[Marnica]

Don't know - Don't care -  it's none of my business.

When your child starts school are you going to ask every single teacher in the school if they are up to date on their vaccines? 

Rrrrrachel - I wouldn't assume that daycare workers are up to date on vaccines. Daycare workers basically fall into the same category as teacher. Vaccinations are not a requirement for employment as a teacher. Not in my state or any other state that I am aware of. 

[Rrrrrachel]

I already revised my answer but thanks.

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by Marnica 

Don't know - Don't care -  it's none of my business.

This.

[glassesgirlnj]

When your child starts school are you going to ask every single teacher in the school if they are up to date on their vaccines?

I wouldn't, personally. But for those people who want everyone working in a healthcare facility (up to, and including, the billing clerks and the cafeteria cashiers) to be fully vaxed... well, it's not too far from that to "THINK OF THE SCHOOLCHILDREN!!"

So it seemed like an interesting question. To me, at least.

[erigeron]

I think also in considering this topic, it's worth considering the age of the child. It's quite different to consider the adult who will be taking care of a baby under 6 months (who is too young to have gotten through any of the vaccine series) versus a school-aged child. 

[Rrrrrachel]

That's a good point.

[Dakotacakes]

Originally Posted by erigeron 

I think also in considering this topic, it's worth considering the age of the child. It's quite different to consider the adult who will be taking care of a baby under 6 months (who is too young to have gotten through any of the vaccine series) versus a school-aged child. 

This. I did ask my child's caregiver about Dtap and MMr like I said. He was 4 months old and not covered. I won't ask his teachers in elementary school because at that point he WILL be up to date on his own vaccines.

[glassesgirlnj]

I admit being kinda surprised that no one had anything to say about the "non-custodial parent / stepparent" angle. 

I've heard of divorce cases where one parent wants the kid(s) vaccinated and the other one doesn't.  I wonder if a family court could compel a PARENT, or anyone sharing a house with her, to be up-to-date on vaccines?  Particularly if one or more kids in the divorce are very young, like erigeron and Dakotacakes brought up?  That could get really ugly, really fast. 

I just think of that when I read a lot of these "my DH/DP/DW doesn't care about (NFL topic) as much as I do" threads... 

[aggie pop]

Hi!

J. and C. are in a homeschool co-op that discourages vaccination.  This pleases me.  The teachers are certainly not vaccinated and I hope the other families don't vaccinate, but would never ask. 

My husband's parents came to visit in January and I was horrified they felt the need to go to a travel clinic to get boosters "to protect [your] kids."

I understand why some parents would not want their children to associate with children of the opposite "status" (whether it be viral shedding, neglecting the "greater good" and considering the opt-out parents irresponsible, non-vaxxers believing the vaxxers are ignorant, soapboxes on both sides, etc.), however I think it's being hugely blown out of proportion- AND it's nobody's business.  I have no problem bringing M. there in this "developing" country, nor did I have any problem toting J. and C. around on NYC subways.  And I am really incredibly glad I don't have to deal with these issues down here...

Love!

A

[glassesgirlnj]

Yeah, I definitely appreciate your answer (and prosciencemum's), as it sheds light on how totally different things are in other countries!

Aggie, could you speak more about the non-expat population in Costa Rica?  Are *any* vaccines required, or even encouraged, in order to do anything at all? 

I agree things get blown out of proportion on both sides.  My spouse and I have our own reasons for vaxing (and yes, they are specifically cultural and regional). But since this is the "caregivers vaxed" thread, and not the "children vaxed" thread, I'll save them for a more appropriate place... 

[glassesgirlnj]

Oh, just my final thoughts on the daycare workers vs. teachers thing - AFAIK, there is no labor union that supports the rights of daycare workers (or if there is one, it isn't NEARLY as strong as the nurses' union, the teachers' union, etc.)  So I think that leaves daycare workers a lot more vulnerable to changes in the conditions of their employment. 

In states that are very pro-regulation and pro-vax (NJ and NY are coming to mind for me, since they're the two closest), I could see a proposed amendment to the daycare licensing process, stating that all employees must be up-to-date on vaccines.  And since most of the employees are making around minimum wage, they would have very little economic clout to fight it. 

[serenbat]

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Oh, just my final thoughts on the daycare workers vs. teachers thing - AFAIK, there is no labor union that supports the rights of daycare workers (or if there is one, it isn't NEARLY as strong as the nurses' union, the teachers' union, etc.)  So I think that leaves daycare workers a lot more vulnerable to changes in the conditions of their employment. 

In states that are very pro-regulation and pro-vax (NJ and NY are coming to mind for me, since they're the two closest), I could see a proposed amendment to the daycare licensing process, stating that all employees must be up-to-date on vaccines.  And since most of the employees are making around minimum wage, they would have very little economic clout to fight it. 

I live near here (NJ &NY) and even teacher in public (not to mention private) are not even required, I can't see this going over- big reason, most are very small and don't even get insurance (unlike at schools) the cost would be very high and I for one would not want it! I can't see private, in-home daycares going unionized any time either. Require it and see closures. 

So many others come in contact you would have to require that everyone, everyplace get mandatory vaced and most don't support that 

[emmy526]

Originally Posted by serenbat 

I live near here (NJ &NY) and even teacher in public (not to mention private) are not even required, I can't see this going over- big reason, most are very small and don't even get insurance (unlike at schools) the cost would be very high and I for one would not want it! I can't see private, in-home daycares going unionized any time either. Require it and see closures. 

So many others come in contact you would have to require that everyone, everyplace get mandatory vaced and most don't support that 

home daycares in CT were recently unionized...what an uproar about it, too...most didn't want unionization, but it passed anyway

[serenbat]

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home daycares in CT were recently unionized...what an uproar about it, too...most didn't want unionization, but it passed anyway

we call even one (owner/operator) a daycare (many are very small 3 total workers or less) - I can't see them staying open