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Originally Posted by Jenny01 

Well I didn't think my hips or pelvis could get any sorer but I was wrong! It's been pretty bad this week since she dropped. Any suggestions? I feel like I can barely walk most of the time and I'm worried this is going to hinder me moving around when I'm in labour.

I've got chiro and massage in the next two days and Epsom salt baths. Trying to sit on my ball too, but it doesn't seem to help much.

The chiro and massage should help especially if they can target the adductors which i just learned are usually the culprit of pubic pain in pregnancy. Once i had those muscles worked on i had some relief. Still, it's not "gone" just more bearable.

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Lightening crotch continues only now it's long periods of stabbing pain after anything that's been moving the baby downwards and tickling the cervix. DH and i did a yoga class last night where we worked on birth positions and poses to move baby downwards and then holy moly, i was getting to practise all my labour breathing in bed that night. It was excruciating but I'm really hoping it was a sign of the cervix responding to the yoga in a productive way and not just nerve pain for the fun of it.

[Cat77]

Thanks sgsnyder! I'm happy for you getting support for that length of time, lucky lady! My mum is here for another 3 weeks, if she hadn't been here I don't know how I would've coped.

Thinking of you Teles, hope you get to avoid induction (my birth didn't.exactly go as I'd hoped) but whatever way bubba gets here I just pray both of you are ok.

FTM question/reassurance needed:
Experienced breastfeeding mamas, my daughter fed for 25-45 mins per feed the first couple of days, but since coming home and my milk coming in properly, she's been having sessions on the breast lasting only 10-15 mins for the most part, but feeding more often. Is this just because she's getting fuller quicker on the real milk, or is it common for newborns feeding patterns to change lots early on? She has been experiencing a little discomfort from her cord stump also, so I wonder if alot of it (the v frequent mini feeds) may be comfort nursing as opposed to real feeds. Thoughts?

[etsdtm99]

Originally Posted by Choco Mom 

FTM question/reassurance needed:
Experienced breastfeeding mamas, my daughter fed for 25-45 mins per feed the first couple of days, but since coming home and my milk coming in properly, she's been having sessions on the breast lasting only 10-15 mins for the most part, but feeding more often. Is this just because she's getting fuller quicker on the real milk, or is it common for newborns feeding patterns to change lots early on? She has been experiencing a little discomfort from her cord stump also, so I wonder if alot of it (the v frequent mini feeds) may be comfort nursing as opposed to real feeds. Thoughts?

It is common for them to nurse shorter periods once your milk comes in, it is also common for patterns to change a lot in the first several weeks and at this age, in my experience comfort nursings are real feeds ;) or to clarify there, if she is swallowing/eating, its a real feed - if the entire time she is doing short fluttery sucking without the suck-suck-swallow pattern that may be for comfort .. i'm on #4 and no 2 babies have had the same feeding patters as newborns ..

Teles - thinking of you, hope thigns go well tomorrow!

[Cat77]

Thanks etsdtm99!

[mama.nesta]

Is anyone else out there a complete, emotional basket-case?  I feel like I have PMS from hell...like when I was 15 and couldn't control my emotions at all...I am crying at commercials, picking fights with the hubby, and seriously losing my patience with DD who is 2 and a half....I cried so hard yesterday that my eyes were red and puffy the rest of the day.  I am feeling better today after 11 hours of sleep but it's only 8:30 am so we will see.  I have a chiro appt. this afternoon, acupuncture and a membrane sweep scheduled for tomorrow before I have to have a NST and fluid check.  I had low fluid with my first and it prompted an avalanche of interventions ending in a c-section that I would really like like to avoid this time around.  My official due date is tomorrow...just don't know if this is purely emotional or hormonal...probably a bit of both I guess?

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Originally Posted by mama.nesta 

Is anyone else out there a complete, emotional basket-case?  I feel like I have PMS from hell...like when I was 15 and couldn't control my emotions at all...I am crying at commercials, picking fights with the hubby, and seriously losing my patience with DD who is 2 and a half....I cried so hard yesterday that my eyes were red and puffy the rest of the day.  I am feeling better today after 11 hours of sleep but it's only 8:30 am so we will see.  I have a chiro appt. this afternoon, acupuncture and a membrane sweep scheduled for tomorrow before I have to have a NST and fluid check.  I had low fluid with my first and it prompted an avalanche of interventions ending in a c-section that I would really like like to avoid this time around.  My official due date is tomorrow...just don't know if this is purely emotional or hormonal...probably a bit of both I guess?

[nods] Yeah just today i got a little of the lady crazies. I think the nerve pain and braxton hicks are just draining the life out of me.

[MaybeJ]

Choco Mom - That also sounds very normal to me.  My little one is nursing anywhere from 5-15 minutes per session.  DD1 was also a very fast nurser and she gained well.  DD2 is also gaining really well so far!

Thinking of you Teles!!

Thinking of all the other mamas waiting for their little ones, too.  I check in daily for updates!

I wonder if we'll have any Valentine's Day babies in our group.  I know we ALL heard from someone at some point, "ohhh due in February??  Maybe you'll have a Valentine's Day baby!!"

[HouseofPeace]

Choco Mom- gonna second the other moms on sounds normal.  my little guy has been nursing for really extended periods, and now, suddenly, (especially on one side which lets down quicker) he's done in 5-10 min.  passed out.  sometimes, when it's been longer between feedings, he goes longer.  the patterns will change- when your supply is not as high as the little one wants, they nurse longer in order to knock up your supply.  then when it's enough, they don't stimulate as long and your body doesn't go crazy.

also checking in for Valentine's babies!

[MaybeJ]

Choco Mom- gonna second the other moms on sounds normal.  my little guy has been nursing for really extended periods, and now, suddenly, (especially on one side which lets down quicker) he's done in 5-10 min.  passed out.  sometimes, when it's been longer between feedings, he goes longer.  the patterns will change- when your supply is not as high as the little one wants, they nurse longer in order to knock up your supply.  then when it's enough, they don't stimulate as long and your body doesn't go crazy.

Yes - the extended nursing to increase supply is also a good point!  Isla did this 2 nights ago (was on and off the boob constantly for 2 hours before bed) and now I'm leaking so maybe she increased it a little too much!  Our bodies and the nursing relationship is pretty amazing!

[Teles]

Baby's perfectly comfy in there and got a perfect score of 8/8 so we got to go home! We're scheduled for another planning score on Tuesday in addition to an appointment to see my doctor on Monday (which is really starting to feel like overkill in a big way), so her comfort has bought us some time before induction is discussed again. It feels like I've been walking around in stress fog for the past 24 hours and it's finally been lifted! Hope everyone else is having as good (albeit unconventional) a Valentine's Day as I am!

[Jenny01]

Woohoo! Awesome news Teles

[Chloe'sMama]

Teles-

hurray!  Hope you are feeling a little more comfy too!

We went to the doc for a weight check and Liam has gained 9.5 oz since Monday afternoon!  I guess my milk is in and doing its job!!!Doc laughed about not having gaining issues.  Everything looks perfect!

DH and I had agreed that this would be our last baby, but I am already feeling like I want another.  Does thefeeling ever go away?  Mommies who this is your last, how are you doing?  I am feeling very sad....hormones?

[loveandgarbage]

That's great, Teles! I had a US today (turns out my midwife didn't want to schedule one til early next week and the hospital jumped the gun and scheduled me) but anyway he looks good in there. If anything I have too much amniotic fluid (had this with my other pregnancies, too) but baby looked good. His head is deep down there, but so is a hand, which could be why he's not able to get his head in a proper position to start labor. So I'm gonna do a lot of squats, walking, rocking on a birthing ball and hope he tucks that hand! Not sure I want to deal with birthing a large head and a hand along with it!

[HouseofPeace]

Originally Posted by loveandgarbage 

That's great, Teles! I had a US today (turns out my midwife didn't want to schedule one til early next week and the hospital jumped the gun and scheduled me) but anyway he looks good in there. If anything I have too much amniotic fluid (had this with my other pregnancies, too) but baby looked good. His head is deep down there, but so is a hand, which could be why he's not able to get his head in a proper position to start labor. So I'm gonna do a lot of squats, walking, rocking on a birthing ball and hope he tucks that hand! Not sure I want to deal with birthing a large head and a hand along with it!

grrrrrr for the hand in the way!  my little guy had a blue mouth and still has bruising around his eyes b/c he held onto that hand throughout labor.  which is why i dilated and he never came out..... my two hardest labors had hands up at the head for most of the labor.  so praying he moves that hand asap!  and then things can flow smoothly.

Chloe'smama- i don't know if it does!  i was (and am) thinking i could be happy if this was my last, but my husband has made it clear that he doesn't feel ready to say that yet.  so even though i'm saying 'no' there's 1/2 of the equation still saying maybe.  making me realize that if we both said 'this is it' i might not be ready.  honestly, the thought of facing that much pain again is a pretty good deterrent for me, but then there's this amazing beautiful phenomenal little person and i love pregnancy, babies, toddlers, and am loving the older kids too.... my mom is worried b/c she says that desire for one more never went away for her.  i think i'll be studying midwifery when i'm done having kids, and helping other women in this phase of life b/c it's too precious and amazing a thing for me to be done with and never see again.  congrats on the weight gain!  it's great to have a champion nurser and a good supply!  especially when you're not sleeping a whole lot and your body is sooooooooo crazy hormonal.

[buko]

Awesome news, Teles!  I'm sure she'll come soon.  Statistically, tomorrow would put you right at the average for first time moms.

[Cat77]

Thanks HoP and MaybeJ. My mom was also concerned abouthe numerous poops baby was producing so I read to her about how the number of poops is in line with how much nourishment their taking in so we can be sure my angel is getting what she needs, lol.

Great news Teles!

[kellybeth]

teles-that is really great news, i'm happy for you!

i've been fretting about being induced. i mentioned months back about a doctor in my practice who was a complete bitch to me when i turned down the flu shot. well that is the doctor that i had to see was her, and she's very pushy with things. she also brought up the c-secion topic again which makes me want to punch her. of every doctor visit i've had, and of all 6 of the doctors i have seen at the practice, she is the ONLY one to ever bring it up. needless to say, i do not like her.

anyway,

i don't want to be induced. it completely freaks me out and it's not something that i want to have happen. my induction is scheduled for first thing monday morning. the drug that they'll be using is cytotec, or misoprostol. they're doing a study at the hospital, so i'd be given a tablet orally and one vaginally, so that i wouldn't know which is which. i am not happy to be an experiment either, btw.

i've been reading about cytotec and it's not sitting well with me read: scared to death of the drug.

it seemed less scary than pitocin, but either is not an option that i want to even be faced with. and if my body isn't truly ready, that what if i have a c-section? i'm completely freaked out about that. 

sigh.

hubby and i did a very fast couple loops indoors today with stairs and all, and i felt some pressure on my bladder and cervix but nothing to make me uncomfortable or to stop running around like a lunatic shamu on land. i got home and i had some blood in my undies. not much, just a few drops. i got my hopes up about it of course. nothing else all day except some poos, but i'm absolutely ravenous and eating everything so good luck getting myself cleaned out. (sorry)

i guess i just want some input. if on saturday there is still no sign of baby, i think i'll call my doctor and tell them sunday morning that i am not going to be induced, and i'll go in for the stress test instead to make sure everything is okay. maybe i'll call tomorrow instead. i just need some reassurance. i feel like i'm failing.

[Teles]

You're not failing, baby is just sorting through her stuff and making sure she's completely ready before she greets the world! Think of it as a compliment - you're done such a good job of creating a comfy place for her in there that she's not anxious to leave it

I absolutely feel you when it comes to freaking out over induction (I broke down into a sobbing mess yesterday morning before my appointment), but nobody can force you to do something that you're not comfortable with so long as there's no medically necessary reason for it. The medical system in it's current state is completely absurd when it comes to due dates and seems to focus more on convenience than nature, which I think creates a bit of a vicious cycle: not going into labour "soon enough" causes mothers to stress, which pushes off labour, which causes more stress, etc. As it stands now, you have three days before you have to start fighting them not to induce, so my advice is to take at least one of those days to do whatever you want without trying to induce labour and try to distract yourself from this whole thing.

Also, IMHO, that c-section doctor needs a good slap.

[buko]

I could not agree more with Telles, kellybeth!  It makes me... angry!  when women feel that they've "failed" somehow-- when nothing is even wrong!  I mean, even if you were 44 weeks, you wouldn't have "failed" anything, but what are you?  41?  You can't be more than 42, and, again, the best data says that first time moms average 41w1d. 

As long as baby is doing fine, there's absolutely nothing wrong and no reason to induce.  If you do decide to consent to the induction, even in the absence of a medical reason, it's true that after 41 weeks or so, it's more likely to be successful, so there is that.  There are still risks to inducing, so, personally*, I will not even be thinking about inducing (without a real medical reason, of course-- and not low fluid-- http://www.scienceandsensibility.org/?p=5294 ) until at least 42.5 weeks, maybe 43.  I imagine it won't come to 42.5 weeks or later, and yeah, I'd rather it not-- because, hey, let's face it, even with awesome MWs who are VERY low-intervention, and even assuming baby is looking awesome, I am still subject to the same societal influences that scaremonger us all. 

But I just can't stand it that women feel they've "failed."  It makes me sad and angry at mainstream medicine-- and my mom is an MD, but she feels the same way as I do. 

A very close friend had a baby not too long ago.  Long story short, she planned a natural birth with hospital MWs, her water broke and she wasn't contracting super-regularly, so after 6-8 hours (they "let" her go longer than usual for the hospital), they basically insisted on Pitocin.  Blah, blah, cascade of interventions, c-section.  She totally thinks now that her body "just doesn't go into labor."  Meanwhile, I know lots of women whose pattern is that their water breaks, nothing much happens for 12 or even 24 hours, then they have a nice, fast 2-4 hour labor and, bam-- baby.  Who knows if she is one of those women?  But she has been told that her body is defective.  Bull. 

*And I do want to emphasize that this is just my choice.