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[LadyCatherine185]

already dairy free, and yet my 12 day old is gassy. He has been since Day 1, but it seems to be increasing and bothering him more and more. He is also showing signs of reflux. He has been pretty fussy and difficult to soothe as well. Last night he had a 30 minute time period where he was fussing/crying and pretty inconsolible. I've already dealt with 2 colicky/refluxy/food sensitive babies, and we seem to be heading there again. :( I thought by cutting dairy early this time we may not have to deal with this, but here we are. A few thoughts I have---

*I have oversupply and overactive letdown.. maybe he is gulping too much air? have already began block feeding

*food sensitivities.. wheat? corn? nuts? with my first 2 it was mainly dairy, I am really not looking forward to another elim diet..

*needs chiro adjustment (planning to take him the beginning of next week

*sigh*

anyone else?

[HouseofPeace]

i am facing the oversupply problem at night.  almost the same problem- fussy, but not super gassy.  i've been pumping a bit to help out, but it's challenging in the middle of the night.

he wants to suckle, but my breast thinks he needs a flood to get knocked back out.... OOPS.  just faced it at the Dr's office too.  as long as i pump and balance his feedings, it's not bad, but the middle of the night one is brutal!  i pumped off 7oz of extra milk in 5 min or less off ONE BREAST this morning after a rough night.  

i'm not doing gassy veggies- but did have kale w/ my salmon last night.  might consider that as well.  spinach is not a problem, eggs are great, fish and meats are fine as are fruits and nuts.  but i think there was some cruciferous veggies on both my rough nights.  i'm grain-free (and mostly carb free to help ease up the milk supply.  nothing like noodles or potatoes to make my supply double overnight)- 

i wouldn't jump to elim diet before trying to get the feedings settled.  it seems like it might be too much right now for sure!  are his bm's greenish at all?  that was when i knew the oversupply was pretty rough on my first.  this little guy doesn't have problems w/ bm's and they're pretty regular, but i can tell he's gulping and getting too much air and milk sometimes and it makes him really pissy..... he's not an easy one either- he's not as hard as my hard ones, but he's definitely demanding.  he's cluster feeding already- a couple hours at a time it seems, and then sleeping for a couple hours.  so we're working it out, but i have to make sure my breasts are NOT over filled when he starts or we face a few angry hours (and the more he screams, the more i let down- UGH)

hope you can get this settled sooner and that he settles down for you!  you're a saint w/ the demanding babies!  thankfully my guy likes to spend most of the day sleeping on me, so the sling is going to save my tail....

[odinsmama]

My girl seems to be having some gas issues as well.

She's been a bit of a spitter but nothing that seems like too much.  But then last night (plus one other day/night a week or so ago) she was spitting up quite a bit more often and was obviously uncomfortable.  Yesterday and today I've been keeping her upright in a wrap as much as possible.  I'm finally sitting down, at the risk of waking her, because the constant standing and walking around the house has my hemorrhoids getting angry again.

last night was pretty tough... Up from 12 to 1 for our normal nurse, burp, poop, nurse, burp.  Then she was up at 4 and didn't settle again until 6, and then I had to be up or wouldn't get a shower.  

I don't feel like I have an oversupply or an over active letdown, she's not gulping air (unless she has hiccups) or choking or anything.  

So I'm guessing something in my diet which just makes me want to cry.  I'm fairly limited as it is and at this point I don't even know what it might be that's bugging her.

I guess I'm starting a food journal and will go from there.

And I'm washing diapers every day since I end up using all my prefolds for burp cloths.

feeling your pain and sleepiness, mamas, and hoping we can solve our issues soon!

[Chloe'sMama]

Another family here with food sensitivities. I have been off of gluten for months in preparation for the birth. My girls were ok with everything else,.. D's on the other hand seems to have a tummy ache from lentils, onions, and dairy as well. Since onions are out I have been staying away from grassy vegetables. He seems so much better on days where I follow those rules.

Good luck ladies

[loveandgarbage]

This sucks, doesn't it? Little Lou has been on and off gassy/upset but yesterday he went to next level cranking. I have cut out all gassy foods and already don't eat dairy. I have however been eating a lot of tofu as that's a main protein source for me. I don't eat meat and I stay away from other beans (which seems worse for baby bellies) the first few months of nursing. So for protein that leaves... nuts? Quinoa? Yikes. I'm gonna take away tofu to see if that helps. If not I might try to do gluten-free.

[LadyCatherine185]

((hugs)) mamas... nice to know I'm not alone. IRL I don't have a lot of people who have such sensitive babes!

I started block feeding, and already seeing a difference!!!!! He's been much more mellow since yesterday afternoon, slept decently last night (woke up 5-ish times to nurse but was easily settled) and has been super calm so far today.... However, my DS2 has come down with a throwing-up-bug so I am PRAYING that DS3 and I don't get it!

[Sunshine_Amy]

Catie, have you tried eliminating onions, garlic, broccoli and other brassicas (cabbage, collards...), and beans?  Those seem to be the most common gas culprits, just foods that give anyone gas, and will do so to the baby as well.  Probably you've considered these, but since you didn't mention them, I'll mention them just in case.

Also, if you've not yet tried the infant soothing techniques from The Happiest Baby on the Block, I highly recommend them. They can sooth the baby even over gas pain, in my experience, although you'll probably need to use more ore all 5 of the "S's."  

Odinsmama, I've been using horse chestnut for hemmies (recommended by my midwife) and it WORKS.  Good luck with the babe's food!

ETA: Glad to read the block feeding is helping!  What is block feeding, anyway?  Good luck staying healthy, Mama!

[etsdtm99]

My baby seems gassy too. :/ - I am already dairy free also .. he sleeps more than any if my babies have (I'm caffeine free this time ..?) and while he makes horrible refluxy sounds - he is 12 days old and hasn't spit up once! (My last 2 projectile vomited when i had dairy) I also have oversupply and over active letdown and have been block feeding since my milk came in - it helps in that he doesn't have green poop with the block feeding (feeding from one side for a block of time, SunshineAmy) .. I'm really hoping my supply will calm down soon and I'm thankful that we are only dealing with gas and not spit up/vomit at this point ..

[HouseofPeace]

Originally Posted by etsdtm99 

My baby seems gassy too. :/ - I am already dairy free also .. he sleeps more than any if my babies have (I'm caffeine free this time ..?) and while he makes horrible refluxy sounds - he is 12 days old and hasn't spit up once! (My last 2 projectile vomited when i had dairy) I also have oversupply and over active letdown and have been block feeding since my milk came in - it helps in that he doesn't have green poop with the block feeding (feeding from one side for a block of time, SunshineAmy) .. I'm really hoping my supply will calm down soon and I'm thankful that we are only dealing with gas and not spit up/vomit at this point ..

OOOOH!  that is block feeding!  i do that too.  especially at night.  which means the other side is insanely full when i wake up, but it makes for nice rest for both of us!!!

i added caffeine in two days ago- a cup of tea in the morning, to get the baby to have some wake-up times during the day.  he sleeps great all day and much of the night, but was waking up around 11-3 at night to hang out.  NOT COOL.

that seems to have helped us both.  i'll drop it once he gets a better wake-up/sleep rhythm.  no spit up here either though!!!  occasional burpy trickles, but he's taking it down and keeping it down.  up from 8lbs 5oz from birth to 9lbs 11oz after 12 days.  

also avoiding kale and other harder to digest foods for now.  he doesn't seem to be gassy and i'm so happy.

[LadyCatherine185]

Originally Posted by Sunshine_Amy 

Catie, have you tried eliminating onions, garlic, broccoli and other brassicas (cabbage, collards...), and beans?  Those seem to be the most common gas culprits, just foods that give anyone gas, and will do so to the baby as well.  Probably you've considered these, but since you didn't mention them, I'll mention them just in case.

Also, if you've not yet tried the infant soothing techniques from The Happiest Baby on the Block, I highly recommend them. They can sooth the baby even over gas pain, in my experience, although you'll probably need to use more ore all 5 of the "S's."  

Odinsmama, I've been using horse chestnut for hemmies (recommended by my midwife) and it WORKS.  Good luck with the babe's food!

ETA: Glad to read the block feeding is helping!  What is block feeding, anyway?  Good luck staying healthy, Mama!

i havent been eating any of those foods either. last night i had a smoothie with lots of fruit and i think it irritated him.. he was super fussy/gassy all night and has been today. boo. and yes i tried every soothing technique out there (my first two were very colicky so i am very familiar with the attempts to soothe in many different ways) but each only "works" for a short time.

[LadyCatherine185]

the gas/fussiness has definitely returned in addition to watery poops. *sigh*

going to try and do the chiro tonight, and maybe some gripe water..

[Sunshine_Amy]

Good luck, Catie, I'm sorry things haven't been working. 

[HouseofPeace]

Originally Posted by LadyCatherine185 

the gas/fussiness has definitely returned in addition to watery poops. *sigh*

going to try and do the chiro tonight, and maybe some gripe water..

oh!  so sorry.  it's hard to have rough little ones and then add in digestive issues..... SORRY!!!

i'd love to sleep more at night, but at least my little one naps hard and sleeps for a few hours at a stretch most of the time!  last night it was the soggy sweats ALL NIGHT.  but hoping for a better nights rest soon!!!

thankfully, hubby can give me a few hours first thing in the morning (5-8 am or so!)  any stretches when baby rests?  we have bouncy chair in warm living room and in the bed where he sleeps.  

[loveandgarbage]

So sorry Catie. I hope you can find a solution soon. Lou seems to be less gassy the past couple of days (crossing fingers). I also get morning snooze time which has been so great for my healing body and also for my sanity.

[LadyCatherine185]

his longest stretch is about an hour. :/

we saw the chiro last night, and he seems a little better last night/today but its hard to tell because DS1 now has the tummy bug so I've had to lay the baby down to clean up puke/poop all morning and he has been screaming a lot. :( :(

[josie423]

You poor things!! I hope things get better for you soon and that the tummy bug passes quickly! 

[odinsmama]

Ugh, up from 1:45 to 4 this morning. Come on, baby, do your gassy, fussy, poop time while the sun is up.... Please!

[HouseofPeace]

sorry mama!!! the 2-3 am wake-up is always grumpy and long (i think he doesn't like how loaded the milk machine gets) and soggy.  hope you get some rest!!!!

[etsdtm99]

 hope those with night time-fussiness get some sleep soon!  I guess that is the good thing we've got going on, my baby's gassy-fussy time is during the day - though many days it is ALL day.. yesterday he was mostly awake and fussing and gassy and pooping and nursing every 20-30 mins from 9am to about 5:30pm ..  i wish i knew what was going on.. i've been really thinking about my diet and can't come up with much that could be bothering him... 

[loveandgarbage]

Has anyone here tried a Windi? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005IGTTIA/ref=s9_cxhsh_co_g75_ir04?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=left-3&pf_rd_r=1CZG3C0XCM8CCRRSFVHC&pf_rd_t=3201&pf_rd_p=1280661842&pf_rd_i=typ01

I haven't personally but have heard good things. Thinking of buying one for gassy times to see if it helps!