thank you everyone! we are cautiously optimistic, and will know more in the next few days....but so far so good. The HPT today at 12dpo was a clear positive, not even a squinter. (our last two cycles we had faint positives at 14dpo) Escher - I'll don't think we're ready to move to grads yet, but praying & hoping that day comes in the near future, thanks!
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Queer Conceptions: March 2013 - Page 11post #201 of 3283/21/13 at 9:38ampost #202 of 3283/21/13 at 9:50ampost #203 of 3283/21/13 at 10:08ampost #204 of 3283/21/13 at 12:00pmThread StarterWhat a great month for BFPs! It looks (from the graduates list in the first post) like if we get at least two more BFPs it will make March the most BFPful month in Queer Conceptions history.
SanDiego: I'm still so excited for you! Is the news starting to sink in? Will you be getting a blood test soon?
Fmorris: 7dpo today? I'll hope for implantation around now for you!
Lizbian: That is quite a dream! What DPO will it be next Friday when you test?
Lea: Congratulations on graduating! What (if anything) does your doctor do in early pregnancy? Will you have any more blood tests or early ultrasounds? It seems like different doctors do that differently.
Twomommyfamily: How did the insem go?
Sotohana: How are you feeling these days?
Amt: Are you 9dpo now? Will you be testing soon?
AFM: Still nervous, but trying to trust that things will go however they are supposed to go.post #205 of 3283/21/13 at 2:02pm
Lizbian, THanks! I thought it was going to be dreadful until I had the bright idea of smoothies! lol You know the fiasco you have with that tank everytime is ridiculous...but it sure does give a good laugh. FX it goes back ASAP. I've been feeling pretty knackered as well, so I know how that goes! GL to you!
Lea, I'm glad things are looking better for you all. I had you and DP in mye thoughts.
Sandiego, WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO! FX for a beautiful sticky bean!
Twomommy, Welcome to the wait! GL!
Escher, Sure is! Mye temp dropped to 97.5 yesterday morning, but this morning when I took it it was at 98.1. I haven't had an accurate temp that high..well...at all. I'm doing mye best to wait 7 more days!
AFM, 7DPO today :) Temp went up this morning. I'm not doing a lot of reading into anything, but I feel good. GL everyone! Oh BTW mye Organic Cloth Diaper Kit Came the day before last..I'm so excited!! The covers were soo cute! Now all I need is the baby to go in it! lolpost #206 of 3283/21/13 at 2:05pmpost #207 of 3283/21/13 at 2:15pmpost #208 of 3283/22/13 at 2:02am
fmorris good thinking on the smoothies. I love pineapple juice & often drink it by itself but not everyone's the same. DW is allergic so is never allowed to have it poor thing. I'm 6dpo and temp has gone up as well, also not trying to read anything into it.
Well ladies, phone call with the IVF clinic today so have a list of questions to ask them. Imagine if I didn't need to worry after all - next week we'll know! Also in good news it's my 40th in August & I did my schedule with work. Because I'm busy the next few months it turns out I have most of July and ALL OF AUGUST off!!!! So chuffed, will be able to get lots done and it's summer so happy days!
Other TWWers how is everything with you?post #209 of 3283/22/13 at 7:14am
escher - Thanks! I'm feeling much more positive today and excited to join you and soto in the graduates area! My doctor recommended acupuncture for early pregnancy support. I think as much for the emotional/worrying side of things as the physical side. I have my first ever acupuncture appointment this afternoon at a sliding scale community clinic near me - i'm curious to see what happens. My dr. is a naturopath and we don't have an RE or anything, so not as much monitoring or follow up blood work. I asked about her suggestions for monitoring things a little more closely this time and she suggested I schedule an earlier appointment with the midwife around week 6 or 7, whereas normally we would probably wait until week 10. I'm also continuing to take all my vitamins and supplements that I've been taking for months: prenatal, b complex, vitamin d, fish oil, an extra iron supplement (I'm iron deficient), and probiotics.
How's everyone in the tww doing? Any inseminations coming up?post #210 of 3283/22/13 at 7:27amSan Diego, did you test again today? I hope everything is still going strong and this one sticks!
Amt- testing soon? How are you feeling?
Liz- Good luck for you call today. I am curious as what they talk about with IVF patients. Tell us a bit about the process after?
I am doing well. No symptoms. Doing stuff to prepare better for parenthood. DP had a job interview for her tenure yesterday which I am almost 100% sure will work out, so that brings some much needed financial safety, especially in case we have to resort to IVF later. We also visited a notary yesterday, to draw up some legal stuff to protect our relationship and also the doctor for the TTC procedures and also as preparation for the second-parent adoption. Afterwards we had a nice dinner date to celebrate and then met with our local LGBT TTC support group. Those meetings are always fun, though direly in need of some men. It's always only lesbians in the group. it helps to meet others in similar situations to talk to and exchange advice though. 3 more days, then I'll test.post #211 of 3283/22/13 at 7:34am
Friederike of course I'll send you info after I speak to them. They have a lot of info on line already which answers most of the questions I would have asked eg do they tell you how many eggs they aspirate & many are fertilised. Here's a link to the clinic's IVF procedures if you're interested. http://www.copenhagenfertilitycenter.com/uploads/ivf_information_copenhagen_fertility_center_gtte.pdf Great news about DP's job interview - hope it's good news! Great idea to do some 'life admin' (as my friend calls it) as the more you have organised the better. We don't have any other lesbians over here TTC that I know much less a support group so that's great! Also why this forum is so important for me. Good luck testing - I really really hope the March madness continues for you xpost #212 of 3283/22/13 at 8:38amThread StarterFmorris: An especially high temp sounds like a great sign!
Lizbian: I'm glad that you'll be testing before the end of March so that we can move you to graduates before the month is over!
Lea: I think it makes sense not to do too much monitoring in early pregnancy. I hope acupuncture was great!
Friederike: It sounds like you are doing lots of great things to get ready for parenting. How many DPO are you now?post #213 of 3283/22/13 at 10:42ampost #214 of 3283/22/13 at 11:33am
Hi all, just a quick update. Had a good chat to the Danish doctor about IVF. They'll send a list of the drugs that I need to take from the start of the cycle to regulate me. I'll need a few tests (HIV, Heptatitis, Papsmear) over here in Guernsey which will make things much easier & cheaper. It's possible to go to Denmark only once, the only problem is that I don't know the exact dates as I need to wait for an ultrasound to tell me the follies are ready. Because I've been ovulating every month within a 2 day window (apart from this month when I was sick) I think I can probably plan flights etc ahead of time as they get crazy expensive if I wait too long.
I'll wait to see what my pregnancy test says next week & plan from then. FX I don't need to worry about it! 6 dpo today and not sure if anything's happening but temp shot up half a degree today (celcius) so hoping that's a good sign. Happy weekend everyone xpost #215 of 3283/22/13 at 11:34am
HOLY BFP'S BATMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congrats to LEA, ESCHER, SAN DIEGO
My goodness, life gets busy and lookit at how you miss out on everything! What wonderful news!!!
amt1015 - hope that was spotting you had at 7dpo!
lizbian -- I cannot believe this business with the tanks! Hopefully this time they'll get their act together a little more quickly!
escher: thanks for checking in on me. :-) I'm doing okay. This bfn was probably the toughest yet. I'm hanging in there and meeting with the doctor next week to come up with a new plan. Likely new meds -- can people tell me about their experience with Femera (letrozole)? Also, how many of you had multiples using it? Is there a benefit to using femera over clomid if there has been a decent response follie wise with clomid and no issues with lining?post #216 of 3283/22/13 at 11:39ampost #217 of 3283/22/13 at 12:14pm
JAJenny: Welcome back! I hope you are doing well and its nice to hear you are coming up with a new plan. I've only taken clomid, but I've researched both clomid and femara. From what I understand the risk of multiples is lower with femara than it is with clomid. I think it is more likely to help you grow one (or two) healthy follies, whereas clomid, especially if you take it earlier in your cycle and at a higher dosage, will often grow 2 or more follicles. Another difference is the effect it can have on your lining. Clomid will prevent your lining from thickening up when you are taking it, which can be an issue. This last cycle I took estrogen suppositories days 10-13 to thicken up my lining because on day 9 it was at 5mm. I know that KWPX is taking Femara and I think Fmorris has in the past as well...
Lizbian: Its exciting to hear about your IVF plan but I hope you get your BFP this cycle and don't have to go through it. I have a good friend who has done 3 (failed) rounds of IVF and it was so hard on her body to take all those hormones then go through the retrievals and transfers. She got very comfortable with injecting herself though. It will be all worth the effort if it works!
Friederike: FX that your DP gets the tenure and you get a BFP in the coming days!
So many people in the tww and no one waiting to O! Crazy! I do anticipate March will be a record month because all the insems in the last couple weeks seem to have been perfectly timed! GL to all!
AFM, slicing open my first pineapple now... 1 dpo and feeling oh so pregnant from the trigger, what a tease.post #218 of 3283/22/13 at 1:02pm
Jenny, so sorry about the BFN. I did two clomid cycles and one of femera, and got pregnant on the femera cycle. I much preferred femera to clomid- didn't make me feel crazy, irritable, etc., and I had a much thicker lining. Even though my lining was technically always "adequate" with clomid, it was much thicker with femera, and I think that's what made the difference. I made fewer follicles on femera (2, versus 5 on clomid), but ended up with twins anyway, so no guarantees there... Good luck with your decision making!
post #219 of 3283/22/13 at 1:45pm
Jenny-I'm sorry about the BFN. They are hard to take for sure. I also preferred letrozole to Clomid. My lining was better. I didn't have bad side effects from either. When I took letrozole alone, I had 2 follicles, as opposed to max 4 with Clomid. I did get pregnant the 3rd time on Clomid, but I had a very early loss which I think may have been because my lining had gotten progressively thinner and may not have been good enough for implantation. Just my theory. The cycle I got pregnant, I took letrozole and an injectable. I only have 1 baby so you never know. The 2 drugs work differently so that may make a difference. Fingers crossed your new plan works!post #220 of 3283/22/13 at 2:44pm
Jenny So sorry about the BFN and the emotional roller coaster it has you on. This round is my third try with letrozole. Clomid was never really on the table for me with my RE based on her feelings about what Clomid did to the lining and how much easier on the momma letrozole was. I had no real emotional craziness or mood swings or anything like that. I did have a little dizziness the first and second round but none this time. The first go-round I took 10mg nightly for 5 nights (CD3-7) then a US on CD10-12. It is important to take the med the same time each night. I usually grew about 3-4 follicles with one being more dominant. We would plan to trigger based on estimated follicle growth and my schedule. We inseminated with slightly sub par sperm number (8mil)...BFN. (I also got the flu 2 dpo)
The second go-round we increased my letrozole to 12.5 mg each night in the same manner and triggered when I had a follicle greater than 20mm. We insemmed with grossly sub par sperm (5mil) and crossed our fingers. BFN.
This last go-round we used some more tricks. I started estrogen 2mg nightly on CD 19 and continued for 14 days. Estrogen will synchronize follicle growth so no one follie gets too big. The RE felt like I was getting some follicles growing rapidly and then dissolving before I ovulated leaving less mature follies to be shot out with O. I began taking letrozole 12.5 mg again on CD3-7 along with dexamethasone which I would take for 10 days total (CD3-13). The pourpose of the dexamethasone was to inhibit adrenal production of DHEA which inhibts LH/FSH. By inhibiting DHEA more LH/FSH could stimulate follicle growth. In addition to all this, the RE added micro dose hCG injections(200 units nightly) when my follicles reached 14mm. At 14 mm follicles can be stimulated by LH (Basically hCG) to grow. I had three measurable follies on each side all about 17 mm two days before I ovulated naturally sans trigger. We insemmed with a new donor and 12.5 mil sperm the day after I got my +OPK.
I felt like the letrozole was really a non-issue in terms of how it made me feel. It is my understanding also that while there is an increased chance of having multiples, just because it is enhancing fertility, there is less chance than with Clomid. Further, having more than twins with letrozole is pretty rare. I like the fact that letrozole interferes with an enzyme necessary to make estrogen and is short acting as opposed to clomid binding estrogen receptors and being longer acting. Just my humble opinion....
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