Originally Posted by prosciencemum
OK, back to the topic at hand, which is debunking just over a page of the original document (starting on pg 35) in which it is claimed vaccinations have not contributed to the decline of VPDs, but it's all down to sanitation and antibiotics
Well it's quite apparent you are far from professional/creditable and care far more about pushing a Facebook meme agenda - unlike addressing the topic in any real way you chose this and other threads to insult most of us with your cartoons.
It must be hard to face that VPD and nonVPD (because both are tied together) are based on sanitation, HYGINE, access to medical care (and this also means the use of antibiotics) and they still are!
As the CDC says - http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4829a1.htm
The 19th century shift in population from country to city that accompanied industrialization and immigration led to overcrowding in poor housing served by inadequate or nonexistent public water supplies and waste-disposal systems. These conditions resulted in repeated outbreaks of cholera, dysentery, TB, typhoid fever, influenza, yellow fever, and malaria.
By 1900, however, the incidence of many of these diseases had begun to decline because of public health improvements, implementation of which continued into the 20th century.
and we have to look at what is happening today as well...... there are many countries that still have not been able to vaccinate their way out of VPD or nonVPD and that big reason is sanitation! The CDC, WHO and many many large and smaller organizations and charities and various countries are pouring tons of dollars into this because they know this is the key to all of it
http://www.irinnews.org/Report/84386/GLOBAL-Sanitation-vs-vaccination-in-cholera-control (and guess what they don't have a horse in the anti-vaccine movement!)
there are many real ways to talk about this and other threads
It's hard to have any critical thinking or a rational discussion when you think that people want to be insulted by your memes! You know who really likes them? Your fellow non informed meme friends who think people who are questioning and delaying/not vaccinating are stupid. One only has to look at your source and see what you think of others here who don't tow your agenda. Spin this anyway you want, you took several memes off a FB page that views anyone who does not vac on schedule as dumb, stupid and a thread to society! That's not a rational person to have a conversation with-IMO
It must be hard to come to terms with this thread and the fact that in general those questioning vaccines is GROWING. Big Pharma is not just vaccines, it's medication in the minds of many, and with that, reactions are happening, recalls are happening and it's all tied together. In the mind of ordinary people, the questioning is growing. Growing mistrust is getting larger (you know it's true and each time there is a survey it shows it too) and I'm sure this must scare you and you fellow memes and make you think that you have to resort to low level cartoons. They look foolish and so do you Karen.