1 in 50 with Autism now??!! - Page 2

[prosciencemum]

There's a neat correlation published on the internet between diagnoses of autism and organic food sales: 

Best explanation I've read is that they both trace the capacity of a society to be worried about non-fatal health issues (ie. to get your kids diagnosed with mild ASD or to start eating organic food you need enough time and/or disposable income to manage that, you're not going to be worried about either - except in the case of very severe autism, if you're struggling to feed them at all etc). 

[serenbat]

Originally Posted by prosciencemum 

Best explanation I've read is that they both trace the capacity of a society to be worried about non-fatal health issues (ie. to get your kids diagnosed with mild ASD or to start eating organic food you need enough time and/or disposable income to manage that, you're not going to be worried about either - except in the case of very severe autism, if you're struggling to feed them at all etc). 

Are these your personal feeling here? I'm assuming the must be since you thought it was so great it needed to be posted.

[prosciencemum]

Well it makes sense I think. At least more sense than assuming that graph shows organic food causes autism.

[Escaping]

Originally Posted by prosciencemum 

Well it makes sense I think. At least more sense than assuming that graph shows organic food causes autism.

Have you seen the graph which shows the same correlation between engineers having children and the rising rate of autism? There was a disturbing correlation between the number of autistic children whose parents and grandparents were engineers... the guess was that before the internet, engineers didn't have many venues to network and find partners, and as a result didn't have as many children, whereas now, the engineer genes are reproducing left and right.... I can't find the graphic anymore though. 

[prosciencemum]

Maybe we could correlate the viewer figures of "The Big Bang Theory" (TV show) with autism. Geek chic and all that. :) 

[glassesgirlnj]

This is starting to remind me of that Pastafarian graphic "Global Average Temperature Vs. Number of Pirates"...

[Rrrrrachel]

Orac blogged about this today

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2013/03/22/autism-prevalence-is-reported-to-be-1-in-50/

Danger: this was written by orac.  if you don't know who he is, he's not exactly patient with non-vaccinating folks.  Please put on your big girl panties if you want to click through anyway, maybe two pairs.  

[Mirzam]

Orac

So, who and what is a "David Gorski MD?"

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It is pretty clear here that we are dealing with a serious mental aberration.  What kind of person sets themselves up, and actually believes, that they are an infallible Oracle, and then presents themselves in public as one? 

[Rrrrrachel]

Uh, it's orac not oracle.

[Mirzam]

Yeah, we know that. You really never read the links do you? Yet another one of your posts before you think.

[Rrrrrachel]

I don't typically read links from the h
Bolen report, no. Especially not when I don't need to to realize the premise is silly.

[Rrrrrachel]

Not to mention when I try to read the link 90% of it is covered with huge pop up ads/404 errors I can't close.

[Mirzam]

And I won't read any thing wrtitten by "Orac". Frankly, I am surprised you had the nerve to post his blog on here. 

[Rrrrrachel]

I didn't expect you to read it, Mirzam. I hoped you would just skip it, frankly, but I thought some people might be interested. I don't see a reason in the world why I shouldn't post a link to that blog when things like the Bolen report get posted in a regular basis. Posters are perfectly capable of reading and deciding for themselves how large of a grain of salt they need to take with it.

[BeckyBird]

The link works fine for me, no errors or ads.

[Rrrrrachel]

Yeah I'm sure it has to do with trying to read it from my ipad.

[pers]

Originally Posted by Mirzam 

Orac

So, who and what is a "David Gorski MD?"

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It is pretty clear here that we are dealing with a serious mental aberration.  What kind of person sets themselves up, and actually believes, that they are an infallible Oracle, and then presents themselves in public as one? 

Well, for starters, he never makes any claim to being infallible, and he's Orac, not Oracle.  

This is what he's named after:

Or as he puts it in his bio:  " That Orac has chosen his nom de blog based on a rather cranky and arrogant computer shaped like a clear box of blinking lights that he originally encountered when he became a fan of a 30 year old British SF television show whose special effects were renowned for their BBC/Doctor Who-style low budget look, but whose stories nonetheless resulted in some of the best, most innovative science fiction ever televised, should tell you nearly all that you need to know about Orac. (That, and the length of the preceding sentence.)"

But who.. I don't think I've ever read the Bolen report before.  Getting his name wrong was probably the least inaccurate thing on the entire page.  And OMG, speaking of nastiness:

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I've been wondering who would pick up the reins of the quackbuster  operation once Stephen Barrett croaks, which could be very soon.

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I set a trap for Bobbie in a case in Wisconsin, setting him up for a three day "credibility hearing," in the case he was testifying in.  That's the case where we have him crying on video tape... It got so bad he'd crawl under or over tables whenever I showed up at a hearing.  Before long, I'd guess, the powers that be (from New York?) must of decided that Royal Purple wasn't his color - and you don't hear much about Bobbie anymore.

Then  there are these lovely bits of irony/hypocrisy:

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Then there was Polevoy in Canada (insert rude noise).  Terry is kind of like the overactive kid vying for everybody's attention with bad behavior in a public place.  You know the one.  We all keep wondering why his mom doesn't just smack the little sh*t.  His website is a cheap carnival of brainless crap presented in garish colors and chaotic organization.  It is easy to get the impression that its author has mental problems.

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You can comb the search engines all day and find criticisms of David Gorski - some of them very angry.  For, it is obvious Gorski speaks in nasty tones, not criticizing, but openly demeaning others on subjects that Gorski has absolutely no expertise in - like autism. 

Edited by pers - 3/22/13 at 8:09pm

[Rrrrrachel]

I finally was able to read it and I still have no idea how he went from orac to oracle.

[Taximom5]

Originally Posted by Rrrrrachel 

Yeah I'm sure it has to do with trying to read it from my ipad.

Really?  I've never even seen a pop-up ad on an iPad before;  In fact, I thought they were immune to pop-up blockers.  I've certainly never gotten one from the Bolen report on any of my devices, not my computer, iPad, or phone.

Maybe it's a conspiracy against you.

[Taximom5]

Originally Posted by Rrrrrachel 

I don't typically read links from the h
Bolen report, no. Especially not when I don't need to to realize the premise is silly.

Ah,nothing like keeping an open mind....