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Lotus birth AND placentophagy?

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Does anybody have information on placentophagy (maybe encapsulation) done in conjunction with umbilical non-severance (lotus birth)?

 

I know that a lotus birth provides the maximum benefits to the baby, and placentophagy provides the maximum benefits to the mother, but if I want the best outcome for both of us as a dyad, where does that compromise fall?

 

Is the placenta still beneficial/safe for the mother to consume after it naturally detaches (at which point it would have been at room temperature, slowly drying out, for 3-8 days)?  At this point I'm thinking that I want to do both, and I think the best plan is to leave the placenta intact to detach naturally with minimal treatments (just salting instead of salt and goldenseal...?), then finish drying it and powder and encapsulate it  But I could see that it would be unsafe to eat, because it's basically meat left out for days...and I could also believe that all the beneficial properties are exhausted by that point.

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No nibbles yet (was that in horrible taste on a placenta-eating post?!  OMG I just wrote "taste"! ROTFLMAO.gif), so here's a bit more data:

 

-- I've looked at the FAQ for several placenta encapsulation services, and they all held that full lotus birth is incompatible with encapsulation.  One did suggest keeping the placenta in a cooler, but anecdotal evidence from mothers and midwives suggests that lotus babies do NOT like the placenta being cold.  Another suggested delayed but total severance at 3-4 hours following birth, which is NOT lotus birth at all, it's delayed clamping and cutting. 

 

-- Several sites claim that salting makes the placenta inedible.  This doesn't make sense to me, because people eat salt pork, for example, in moderation without ill effect.  If the placenta is oversalted as a method of curing, wouldn't that work?

 

-- A couple of sites mention beneficial hormones present in the placenta metabolizing after 24-48 hours, thus making late encapsulation following a cooler-assisted lotus birth about as useful to mom as a good iron supplement.  My question is, to what extent is that true, and to what extent (if any) is the presence of those hormones in the placenta beneficial to the lotus infant?

 

-- The consensus was that the best plan, if you really want to do both lotus birth and placentophagy, would be cutting out a piece of the placenta for mom's medicinal use (possibly in a tincture or simply eaten raw), but I don't have a clear understanding of how that interacts with the philosophical stance behind lotus birthing.  Obviously it violates ahimsa if we envision it as violence enacted on the person of the infant.  In Anne Moon Frye's book, midwives are encouraged to use a small piece of placenta per os maternum to control postpartum hemorrhage and explicitly instructed to inform and apologize to the lotus-born infant.
 

post #3 of 3

I am not sold on lotus birth.  I really don't think it's compatible with placenta encapsulation.

 

I am concerned about the effects of salting a highly vascularized external organ while leaving it attached to a newborn infant.  Infants can easily become dehydrated, and I would worry about the salt's effect on the newborn's fluid balance.

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