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Spring IVF 2013 - Page 27post #521 of 7658/11/13 at 9:54ampost #522 of 7658/11/13 at 3:42pmCarrie- That is an awesome beta! I take it your about 14 days past retrieval? Cramping is totally, absolutely, completely normal. Truly. If you were miscarrying you would have no doubt in your mind what was going on.
Can you remind me what you did exactly? 2 embryos? 5 day transfer? What kind if cycle was it?post #523 of 7658/11/13 at 4:06pmpost #524 of 7658/12/13 at 9:52amDandelions/Carrie - Dr. Sherbahn has some great numbers and a really high twin rate! Just saying! Are you having a second beta today? Can I ask what protocol you followed exactly? I backward stalked you and see that you did a long lupron protocol with follistim. How old are you? And you're unexplained, right? Did you add in Menopur with the Follistim? Did you get any embryos to freeze? I believe that Dr. Sherbahn has a very tough protocol for freezing and I don't think he likes to freeze any embryos, but if you've got them, that'd be great. What was the grade of the embryos you put back? I looked hard at Sherbahn for his great rates, but I am concerned that he cherry picks his patients and he wouldn't be able to handle a complicated case like me.
Sorry for all the questions, but any info you can give me would be great. I haven't completely discounted him...post #525 of 7658/12/13 at 10:25am
I went for another scan today and this time they could only see one follicle boo. I've been doing the OPKs and they've been getting progressively darker though. I don't get it. I did one just now and the line looks as dark, but thinner? I hate these tests.
I'm supposed to go to the lab for a blood test but I need to be at work. Fark.post #526 of 7658/12/13 at 1:27pmX - his success rate is partly why we were attracted to him. It did cross my mind that he may cherry pick his patients, but thought it didn't hurt to look into it. After looking at my records, he still only gave us a 38% chance of working. I felt comfortable with him. His sense of humor seemed a bit odd/dry, but I like that he spoke my language, numbers. The higher twin rate was ok with us... Just praying we don't have a litter! Do you think this is because of his protocols? Or that he will put back two embryos?
This (appears to be) the protocol we followed. Estrogen patches were added two days after the 5 day transfer. http://www.advancedfertility.com/microdose-lupron-flare.htm
I am 34 years old, 35 in a month. We werer unexplained, BUT... Through Dr. Sherbahn we found out that my overies were "lazy" and that A's strict morphology was below 2%. This is why they suggested the ICSI procedure.
I did not have menopur with the follistim.
We did end up with two embryos to freeze. Their grades were... 3BC and 4CC.
The grades of the embryos they put back were... 1BB and CB.
I hear your concerns about him cherry picking patients, but wouldn't it be worth checking out? You may be surprised... The staff was kind and amazing. They responded to emails and questions very quickly. Overall, it was a very pleasant experience! Forgive me for asking, but why is your situation complicated?
Don't worry about all the questions! Ask away!
My HCG was 1850 this morning! They said that was great! I still don't know when we can feel comfortable though...post #527 of 7658/12/13 at 7:57pmCarrie- That is an AWESOME HCG!!!!! That is really a great number. I'm glad Sherbahn was good for you and that you got 2 to freeze! I think Sherbahn has such high twin rates because he doesn't do many eSET. I don't think that's a bad thing. It's just the way he does it.
What do you mean by the ovaries are "lazy"? Did you have a low Antral Follicle Count? That's when they count the pre-follicles on about day 3 of your cycle. Or that they were just slow to respond?
Right now I'm with FCI and they've been great so far. I've got 3 frosties in the bank and we'll start another cycle this week. I really like my doc.
My problem is pregnancy loss. I actually get pregnant pretty easily. So I'm going through EVERYTHING trying to figure out why. So, I have 3 different docs I'm working with and I don't think he'd be willing to do all that.post #528 of 7658/13/13 at 6:32ampost #529 of 7658/13/13 at 4:25pmpost #530 of 7658/13/13 at 5:38pm
Oh, the OPKs. They are like a pregnancy test, except that you're looking for the test line to be as dark as the control line. I find them maddening because the test line is narrower and that makes it look lighter. And then they get darker when they dry too.
Sorry, I know I'm not doing IVF but this month makes 4 years that we've been trying... 3 of those years with ART... so I don't think I belong anywhere else!
Anyway, this morning the test with FMU had a lighter line, but I tested again an hour later and it seemed pretty close. DH and I were staring at and not sure if it was positive or not. I called the nurse and ended up deciding to do the insemination today, so I did it at 2 pm. Now we wait the usual 2 weeks. I'm supposed to have my progesterone tested in a week too.
I did another OPK test an hour ago, just for science. It looks positive but see how one side of the line is darker? That makes it hard to read imo.
Edited by Laggie - 8/13/13 at 6:06pmpost #531 of 7658/13/13 at 6:07pmLaggie - I had to move on to the digital smilie face OPKs. I always had confusing light, who knows what lines. It was seriously frustrating. Our last clinic told us not to use the line ones because they had so much confusion from their patients. I know that the digital are more expensive, but I think they were worth it.
Edited by dandelionsrflowers - 8/13/13 at 6:18pmpost #532 of 7658/13/13 at 10:27pm
Oh Laggie,that must have been so frustrating.....but now you are on your 2ww. What will you do the make the time past?
And oh,you belong here!!!! We want to know all about what is going on ..at least I do.
Oh Xerxella~ we are thinking domestic infant adoption. Believe it or not but I am too old for a lot of international adoption,most want 35 or younger. You are cycling this week right?post #533 of 7658/14/13 at 10:08am
I did another OPK this morning and the line was very dark. So I think I may have jumped the gun yesterday. Oh well, time will tell I guess. Next month I'll be more patient. We're planning a weekend trip to Vancouver Island this weekend, I bought a VW Vanagon a couple of weeks ago so doing the repairs on that is keeping me busy. It's a beater, but I needed a project. So far I've changed the clutch master cylinder and one axle. Tomorrow I'm picking up a ton of parts for it, and finishing up the most important repairs, so we can drive it to the Island on Friday.post #534 of 7658/14/13 at 10:24am
Xerxella - have you started your cycle yet? I take the estrogen patches for the entire FET cycle, in varying doses. I'm on 1 patch at the beginning, gradually increasing up to 4 patches, then when they determine my lining is ready I start the progesterone and I go back down to 2 estrogen patches for the rest of the cycle.
Kewpie - let us know how your appointments go!
Laggie - You definitely belong here! Sorry to hear about that rash, I'm glad it disappeared so quickly. I agree that OPKs can be pretty confusing, some months I never see a line as dark as the control. At my clinic they always used an HCG trigger for IUI cycles to take the guesswork out of the OPK testing, could you ask about that for your next cycle? Anyways I don't think it's a big deal if you did the IUI a day or two early, it's better to do it early than late. I actually read a study where they did IUI's before administering the HCG trigger and they had higher success rates than the normal method.
dandelion - CONGRATS!!!!!! I'm so happy for you! I had a ton of cramping during the short time I was pregnant. It felt like really bad period cramps but it only lasted a few minutes at a time (my period cramps usually last for hours). When my pregnancy stopped progressing about 1 week before my miscarriage the cramps stopped, so I'm convinced cramps are a really great sign. I haven't had any problem with the estrogen patches sticking but I make sure not to shower with them on. I change my patches every 2 days so I always change them when I shower - I take off the old one right before my shower, and put the new one on right after. I only shower every 2nd day anyways so it works out.
tracy - wow I can't believe there is an age limit for adoption. I had no idea! Yet another reason to stress out about getting older (adoption is my last resort so if I ever make it to that step I'll be getting close to 35).
AFM - I'm currently at 2 estrogen patches, I'll be increasing to 3 this evening and 4 on Friday, then I have my lining check on Saturday. Today is also my wedding anniversary which I find depressing because we started TTC as soon as we got married so it's also my 3-year TTC anniversary today. Urg.post #535 of 7658/14/13 at 12:53pmpost #536 of 7658/16/13 at 8:33amLaggie- I've also moved to the digital smilie face OPKs. That way there's no guessing.
I'm so impressed with your car repairs! That's a lot of work and a great skill set to have!
I've never heard that the trigger lowers your chances. If anything I'd think it'd increase your chances. It makes sure you do ovulate and makes sure all possible follicles ovulate.
Sourire- That's a lot of estrogen! How's your lining looking?
Tracy- Hugs to you. I hope the path to adoption is smooth for you.
to everyone else!
AFM - no period yet. I'm still waiting. I keep in getting hints and then nothing! It needs to hurry along because DH is on a business trip in 3 weeks! But I really think it'll hit this weekend. But come on already!!!!!post #537 of 7658/16/13 at 12:33pmpost #538 of 7658/17/13 at 11:24ampost #539 of 7658/17/13 at 11:54amDandelion --nice betas! My day 14 was 325 and doubled exactly to 650 two days later... That was with 3 embies which became my triplets (still incubating!). Fingers crossed for your two embies -- never know might be a pair in there
TracyA- add me to the lot of stalkers following you! good luck with the adoption route. I had always planned to have one and adopt one... Then I scored a hat trick... Odd sometimes the way life unrolls. All the best on your new adventure!
As for OPKs. I moved to digital early on as I couldn't deal with ambiguity of the faint line! I like the smiley better than the pregnant/not pregnant text! Only from a psychological point of view!
Lots of warm wishes to all!post #540 of 7658/17/13 at 10:22pmQuote:
Wow! that is really coming up ..........I am excited for you Sourire and will be thinking about you on the 21st!
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