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*~*April 2013 Chat*~* may 2012 ddc

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Hey Ladies,

Whats happening? Our babies are getting very close to the 1 year old mark! How did that happen? happytears.gif

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We're quite anxiously awaiting Patrick's first steps. He's been cruising the furniture, holding on to things and walking and randomly standing by himself (but not if he notices that he is doing it...) 
 

He's gotten so big!!! Today I looked at his newborn pictures and can NOT believe a year has gone by! So much has happened since then, and I'm amazed at how far we've come as a family!

 

I booked the room we're using for his birthday party today. That made me want to cry.I don't think I'm ready to admit he's my last baby yet, and knowing that he's about to turn one is kind of killing me. 

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Everett has one tooth now, is walking incredibly steadily. He can go up and down stairs, climbs everything in sight. Whenever we get up in the morning, Everett has a considerable meltdown when I put the baby gate up at the bottom of the stairs. Even seeing it there is enough to induce a meltdown. 

I'm having a lot of trouble believing he's almost one. He still seems like such a BABY. I find it hard to believe that my other two were like this when they were 1- I have this weird memory of them being really grown up, but I'm probably just remembering it all wrong.

I'm not doing any sort of baby book- anyone doing baby books? I have a journal for the other two kids (Nigella's started when she was a year, Orrin's on the day he was born) but i keep forgetting to pick one up for Everett. I haven't recorded a single thing. I'm relying on my memory until I get something to start writing stuff down (and my memory is a joke, so it'll be pretty sparse).

REALLY need to do something to lose this baby gut and control this low-level incontinence. Getting tired of peeing myself.

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How did it get to be April already?

No baby book here yet. My sister is apparently writing down milestones for me to put in a book someday, but she never got around to doing books for her boys (10 and 12) so I'm not holding my breath.

My good friend teaches stroller strides. I went for the first time last week and got my butt kicked. So naturally I am planning to go regularly and get back in shape. We'll see how that goes.

Does anybody else still have no sex drive to speak of? I mean I love dh and he is a great dad but really I'd rather he keep his hands to himself.
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No baby book. I do plan on getting her a journal. I just write interesting things they've done or memories I cherish in it. Some times I write sweet notes or give advice about what I hope for their future..I do these books with the morbid fear that just in case this is all they have instead of me some day. I love them so much (the kids and the books lol) because there have been so many times that I have forgotten something and I'll re-read it in their journal and am just so thankful I wrote it down..

 

Honestly, I don't care when I started walking or my first tooth came in - so to me they probably won't really care either. So I don't stress on that kind of information.

 

As far as sex drive goes...haha well I'm nearly 12 weeks pregnant again so obviously sex hasn't been too big of an issue! LOL

 

Trying to save up for our trip to MIL's. Miss D hates car rides (well, last time she actually did ok) so I am wondering what a 500 mile trip one way will look like.

I am going to call the midwife today..I must! Isn't it sad? By this point in our last pregnancies I'd already had an appt or two and definitely heard the heart beat. I'm just too busy and I am not even going to school full time any more.

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So my husband was accepted into Teacher's College- he wants to teach highschool math (why!?! Crazy man! Highschoolers terrify me). While he'll be in school full time, neither of us can work enough to keep our house so we're moving into my Mother In Law's house in September. All 5 of us in 1 bedroom (possible pull out couch in living room), and all our stuff in storage at my husband's Grandmother's house. We want to get our house on the market ASAP- we're not even REMOTELY ready. We are overloaded with clutter and junk, everything needs to scrubbed and painted. Ugh. We spent all day yesterday working- steady working, until 3:30- and we took a load to the dump and sorted mounds of stuff but it doesn't look like we've done a thing. I'm exhausted. Luckily today, I go wedding dress shopping with a friend and then go to peaceful hand-sewing class. Back to the declutter grind tomorrow!

Kamiro- yup- that's what I have too. Not a typical baby book, just little memories. I think I need to redo the older kids' books. I think a lot of it is coming off as critical/whining which I don't want at all. Also my handwriting is illegible for most of it.

I have no idea how long 500 miles is. How many hours? We're going to visit my parents in early June. It's a 7 hr trip one way. Everett hates the car, too. I think it will be a nightmare.. but we'll see! Fingers crossed!

 

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We're quite anxiously awaiting Patrick's first steps. He's been cruising the furniture, holding on to things and walking and randomly standing by himself (but not if he notices that he is doing it...) 
 

 

E's been cruising for months.  4 months, I think, and has yet to take a single free step.  She's starting to try to balance on her own, but she's not quite ready to walk yet. 

 

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I'm not doing any sort of baby book- anyone doing baby books? I have a journal for the other two kids (Nigella's started when she was a year, Orrin's on the day he was born) but i keep forgetting to pick one up for Everett. I haven't recorded a single thing. I'm relying on my memory until I get something to start writing stuff down (and my memory is a joke, so it'll be pretty sparse).

REALLY need to do something to lose this baby gut and control this low-level incontinence. Getting tired of peeing myself.

 

I haven't done books for either kid, and I feel guilty about it.  And yet at the same time, I just can't muster the energy to do it. 

 

For the incontinence, I had that after my older one, it lasted until about 18 mos and kinda went away on it's own.  This time I only had it a few weeks.  How long was your pushing stage?  Have you tried kegels? (not sure they did anything for me, but I suppose it can't really hurt)

 

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Does anybody else still have no sex drive to speak of? I mean I love dh and he is a great dad but really I'd rather he keep his hands to himself.

 

HA!  Sex?  What's that?  Hubby has been sleeping on the couch since about 4 months pregnant.  And he spent 2 years on his own in the bed after the older one was born.  So now he struggles to sleep next to me because I snore and he's a light sleeper.  At one point he was used to it, but not any more. 

 

For the sex itself - mostly I initiate when I'm feeling sexy or playful either one (maybe once a month).  He doesn't have a terribly high drive either, and if he wants it when I don't particularly, he has the option of doing his best to get me in the mood (meaning TONS of foreplay), or taking care of it himself.  I never used to countenance him doing that, but since he had his vasectomy, it was kinda necessary, and I found it takes a lot of pressure off of me. 

 

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So my husband was accepted into Teacher's College- he wants to teach highschool math (why!?! Crazy man! Highschoolers terrify me). While he'll be in school full time, neither of us can work enough to keep our house so we're moving into my Mother In Law's house in September. All 5 of us in 1 bedroom (possible pull out couch in living room), and all our stuff in storage at my husband's Grandmother's house.

I have no idea how long 500 miles is. How many hours? We're going to visit my parents in early June. It's a 7 hr trip one way. Everett hates the car, too. I think it will be a nightmare.. but we'll see! Fingers crossed!

 

 

OMG.  I can't even imagine trying to squeeze 5 into 1 bedroom.  That would drive me up the wall.  Good luck! 

 

500 miles is about 6 hours depending on how many breaks you need.  I found that distance totally doable (alone) with the kids.  Much more than that though and I would have hurt someone. 

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Cristeen - I am afraid to ask how much you will have to be personally responsible for with the bill. I know my moms hospitalization was around $50k and I dont even know how much she would have been personally held for if not on state insurance. I was curious what D's bill was but we never received a copy...maybe just not 'yet'.

 

I nurse every day 1 or 2 x for a couple minutes but thats it.

She seems fine with it. She loves food and water and juice. Not too big of a fan of the goats milk option.

Should I give her a tsp of coconut oil every day for fat?

 

As it stand right now, they're asking for $1500, but I think that's because that's the deductible.  They don't have a record of our out-of-pocket medical expenses last year (midwife and hubby's V), which will more than cover our deductible.  So I should wind up not having to pay any more.  I just had to pay my copay at the time ($300).  And yeah, I'd say maybe not yet.  It took them 10 months to get us that bill. 

 

I would give her some coconut oil every day if she's not drinking milk.  You can mix it into food, cook food in it or just give her a little on a spoon, which is what I do with E.  But I would keep trying the milk, she does really need that still. 

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Cristeen and FM - if you guys made it to Ripleys I'm happy for you and sorry I didn't email.

We recieved the news that DH's mom is very ill so we are going to rent a mini van in April and head to Idaho to see her. Its going to be very cost prohibitive and I can just cry thinking about how we are going to afford it, but theres always a way. Anyways, all that to say that no spending money for anything for us until probably May. :(

 

We wound up not connecting at all.  Maybe in December when we get back up there.  We're liable to be getting back up there more often.  I wound up driving this time, DH was not comfortable with the idea of us being on a train and not having the control if we needed it.  But I stopped right near the border for the night and got a hotel room (A was already asleep by the time I stopped, but stopping woke up E), slept 6-ish hours, had a good breakfast in the morning before getting back on the road.  It was so completely doable.  The last time we made the trip we drove straight through, which was about 14 hours, and I can't do that myself, and it makes for a really hellish trip.  But stopping midway and taking our time really changed the whole experience, so I'm willing to do it again, and more often.  Realistically the only costs I had for the whole week were the hotel room each way and the cost of gas.  Grandparents paid for EVERYTHING while we were there - food, gas, attractions, even toys for the kids. 

 

I'm sorry to hear that she's so sick.  I hope you find a way.  Do you know anyone with a van you could borrow for a week? 

 

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I finally made an appointment with my naturopath and the cloud of PPD is slowly lifting. I got records from the hospital from birth (in the admitting paperwork, the reason for transferring was "failed homebirth" - thanks, L&D) and freaked myself out with the surgical report. I have a lot of thoughts about how things worked out. What I'm taking away from the whole thing is that I refuse to consent to anything I'm uncomfortable with (ignoring PROM, inducing with castor oil, being told to push when I don't feel pushy), and I refuse to be rushed next time around. And I'm going to choose my care provider a lot more carefully. I feel like my midwife let me down in a big way.

 

I'm so glad you're coming out of the cloud of PPD.  That's really rough.  I'm sorry you feel like your MW wasn't in your corner.  That hurts a lot, I know.  I have to say I was really lucky the second time around that my days-long labor was tolerated so well.  And third time around I knew to discuss the fact that my labor pattern is days long.  But I will caution you about one thing here.  We all (particularly here on MDC), tend to want that beautiful perfect homebirth.  The one we see portrayed in pictures and that so many people talk about and post birth stories of.  Realistically though, not everyone gets one of those.  I had to do a lot of work after E was born because she was my last chance at that beautiful perfect HB.  My first was a horrific hospital birth.  A was a HB, but it was far from beautiful, being a test of everyone's endurance and stamina.  And E wound up being a hospital birth with an epidural (which I had never in a million years thought I would consent to).  I still look at beautiful birth pictures and want to do it again, just so that I can have that experience, but truth is that I won't have that experience.  After 3 kids, I just have to accept that my body does not do well with labor - it does great with pregnancy, but labor is another matter entirely.  It's really hard to give up that dream. 

 

Ultimately though, I definitely think you need a different MW, one that will put the power back in your hands.  But I know there are few around here who will let you go even 72 hrs with ROM - that was a question I asked and didn't care for most of the responses.  You're going to have to screen for that (that and VBAC are questions I'd ask over the phone).  The one thing that made me far more accepting of my HB transfer with E was that I demanded to be transferred.  My MW had not gotten to the point where she was suggesting transfer yet (although it wasn't far off).  I was in too much pain, I knew her heart rate was decelling into dangerous territory, and I knew that I was not yet complete.  I was the first one to say transfer, and my MW actually argued with me for a moment.  I told her something was wrong, that I knew something was wrong and that we were going to the hospital.  She argued with me again when I asked for an epidural, but again I knew that we were at risk for a C/S, plus the amount of pain I was in because I was pushy without being complete, her heart rate still wasn't rebounding like it should, it was time for an epi.  Both times she argued with me, once I let her know that I had thought about it, and I was clear that was actually what I wanted (and it wasn't just the pain speaking), she backed me 100%.  And that's what you want from your MW.  Unfortunately she no longer lives here, but I can definitely ask her if she has anyone else she'd recommend given your circumstances.  Ultimately though I don't know how many will take a VBAC.  I hope that helps a bit. 

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As for us - our trip was great for the most part.  A wound up with a cold halfway through the week, but with no obvious symptoms aside from a runny nose and an intermittent cough.  And on the way home I spent the night in a hotel, and E woke me up at 1 am with croup.  I had never heard that sound before (A never had croup), and between the wheezing and that horrible cough, I thought she had an obstructed airway.  I called the cardiologist on call and he listened to her over the phone and told me to call an ambulance.  So we spent the night in the ER in a tiny little town on the CA/OR border.  We got out of the hospital about 5:30, both kids were wide awake, so at that point there wasn't much point in going back to the hotel and trying to sleep (I'd had less than 2 hours before she woke me coughing), so we hit the road.  That was probably one of my stupider moves.  I should have tried to get some more sleep at the hotel first.  I still had a 6 hour drive to get home, and I didn't get home until about 3.  About 2 hours from home, I called my dad and told him we were near his house and I needed him to get me home because at that point I was downright dangerous.  He interrupted Easter dinner so he could drive us home and had one of his guests follow so he would have a ride back. 

 

But we will definitely be making the trip more often now that we figured out stopping halfway makes it more manageable.  Grandma retires this summer - she's still living on the E. Coast until then, but grandpa retired over a year ago, and he's already living in the OR house doing the renovating.  So once they're on this coast FT, we'll be making the trip regularly, I think.  At least 2-3x/year. 

 

Not a whole lot else going on here.  E started crawling while we were in OR.  She'd been army crawling for months and months and months, but while we were there she finally got up on her knees.  Home health will be out again this week, I cancelled last week's visit because of the croup.  All this time I thought she was a nurse, but when I called her voicemail learned she is in fact an infant development doctor.  She's still not talking at all, so we'll see what she has to say about that. 

 

I got a girl's day while we were on vacation - we left the kids with grandpa for several hours and grandma took me clothes shopping.  First time I've spent money on clothes for myself since before my oldest was born.  It's nice having clothes that aren't sliding off because they were worn throughout pregnancy.  And I refuse to wait until I've lost this weight to buy more clothes.  I need to feel better about myself, and clothing is one way of doing it. 

 

Once I finally kick this cold, I need to go have the blood work done for the endo.  Hopefully that will shed some light on what's going on.  In talking to grandma, she suggested I ask the endo for a referral to an opthamologist, since apparently the problems with my eyes can be related to my endo problems, which an optometrist is not qualified to deal with.  Never knew that, so I'll ask him when I see him.   

 

I think that's about it.  Hope everyone else is doing as well as possible. 

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So much going on with all of you mamas. I've been in a busy period again (what else is new) so haven't been able to post but I've been lurking!

Kai is cruising too, getting more stable every day, I'm sure he will be taking those first steps at some point in the next month or two. Hard to say. DS1 was like this too. He took his first steps on the day he turned one. But then was such a fast crawler, didn't really try to walk again until 13 months old. I could see Kai being the same way. Sometimes he forgets he can't really balance that well and kind of lurches forward. It's cute and funny.

I can't believe it's been 11 months. I've been flooded with memories recently.

 

Biggest and most surprising news on my end is that I have quit nursing. I never expected this to happen. But I had another round of very painful biting with another tooth coming in, and I just ... couldn't anymore. I really couldn't. I was literally breaking into a sort of traumatized/anxious sweat every time he nursed, worried he would bite. I knew he wasn't trying to wean - just teething - but still, he takes a bottle so well that I just decided it was time to end it.

 

It's been a week. I am having a sort of hard time with it and also feel really liberated. I'm definitely emotional. Extreme PMS, you know? I am also worried about weight gain but so far I think I'm ok.

 

I've been running and back to two times a week of yoga.

 

I am thrilled spring is coming.

 

What else? I think the nursing is the biggest development over here... What do others think? Anyone else have a biter? I forget.

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Rozzie - you have to what's best for you guys. Damaging your emotional relationship in order to sustain the BF relationship just seems silly. We're not nursing, but I have no doubt she'd be a biter. She'll grab my finger and shove it in her mouth for the sole purpose of chomping down on it.
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Hi all! K is doing great, except for the sleep (see long essay below). He's speed crawling everywhere and pulling up on everything. He's super curious, and I can tell he's going to be a climber (eek!). He likes to pull everything off of shelves, and we're doing another round of baby-proofing this weekend.

 

He LOVES everyone, and has gotten even more interested in other babies. Only problem is, he wants to hug and kiss them, and he has terrified a fair few. K is huge and strong, and to him, "hug & kiss" means "tackle, bring down, and put wide open mouth on your face". He does it with a big, cheerful smile and a laugh, so it's clear to me & the kids' parents that he's being friendly, but I think that the perspective of the other babies is that they are not so much being "hugged and kissed" as "pounced upon and devoured". It's both cute & sad, as he looks super bewildered as to why children are crying and running away from his friendly overtures. We're working really hard on the concept of "gentle".

 

K eats everything, and still nurses like a champ. There are times when I have considered night weaning, however (again, see long rant on sleep problems below).

 

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I'm not doing any sort of baby book- anyone doing baby books? I have a journal for the other two kids (Nigella's started when she was a year, Orrin's on the day he was born) but i keep forgetting to pick one up for Everett. I haven't recorded a single thing. I'm relying on my memory until I get something to start writing stuff down (and my memory is a joke, so it'll be pretty sparse).

 

I was just thinking that really need to do this! I generally have a decent memory, but I'm so sleep deprived I'm afraid I'll forget a lot, and DH has a crap memory (not being mean, he's the first to admit it). I randomly remember things I'd already forgot; for example, just the other day, I remembered that when we took K out at 4 months for a full moon walk, he began giggling almost hysterically, on and on, upon seeing the moon. That's the kind of stuff I really want to remember! I don't know what's stopping me from at least jotting these kind of things down.

 

 

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REALLY need to do something to lose this baby gut and control this low-level incontinence. Getting tired of peeing myself.

Oh, god. The other day, I must have breathed in a mighty cloud of pollen, because I started sneezing really bad out of nowhere. Fortunately, I had just gotten home, but then I was trying to nurse K down for a nap. Every time I sneezed, I peed a few drops, and I kept on sneezing & sneezing. I had to shove my skirt in a ball under me to avoid wetting the bed, and meanwhile, K thinks it's hysterical when I sneeze, so he's laughing, which means he's not falling asleep, which means I can't get up to pee yet - yeah. I need to do more kegels (if that will even help).

 

 

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Does anybody else still have no sex drive to speak of? I mean I love dh and he is a great dad but really I'd rather he keep his hands to himself.

 

Sex is fine (when we both have enough energy, which is infrequent); however, touching is a different matter. I TOTALLY want DH to keep his hands to himself. I want to scream "STOP F@&#ING TOUCHING ME!!!!". I have managed to avoid this, and have nicely explained to him that, due to the fact that K is constantly grabbing me and pulling at me and climbing me all day, I really would rather he (DH) not randomly come up to me in the evening and grab my butt & boobs while I'm doing other stuff. This used to be fine with us, we're very playful, but now I just can't deal. I've heard of the mom phenomenon of feeling "touched out", and I'm totally there. DH is starting to get it.

 

 

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Biggest and most surprising news on my end is that I have quit nursing. I never expected this to happen. But I had another round of very painful biting with another tooth coming in, and I just ... couldn't anymore. I really couldn't. I was literally breaking into a sort of traumatized/anxious sweat every time he nursed, worried he would bite. I knew he wasn't trying to wean - just teething - but still, he takes a bottle so well that I just decided it was time to end it.

One of my best friends had to quit at 6 months for this reason - her DS just kept biting and biting, no matter what she tried. One day, he broke the skin, and she screamed and nearly dropped him, scaring the heck out of both of them. She decided that BFing was becoming traumatic for both of them, and he seemed at least as happy with the bottle. It sounds like you made a really positive choice. IMO, APing is all about listening to your baby and meeting his needs, as well as your own needs - it sounds like this was the best choice to meet both of your needs.

 

On that note - I'm still really struggling with figuring out the whole sleeping thing. Naptime is fine now (1x a day for 2 - 2 1/2 hours), but night time is miserable

 

Our sleeping arrangement had been co-sleeping on a king-sized floor bed (we have a sort of Montessori-style set-up to our bedroom, so K can safely navigate everything himself). I set a night nursing limit of no more than every 4 hours a couple of months ago, as K was starting to want to nurse every hour again, and getting that little sleep was obviously negatively affecting both of us during the day (K doesn't seem to care for side-lying nursing, and is mostly wide-awake while nursing). DH will pat him back to sleep in between, which sometimes works quickly, but sometimes takes forever. It seems that closer to morning (i.e., any time after 3am), K needs to be patted almost constantly to remain asleep, whether I've just nursed him or not. If we just pretend to be asleep when he wakes up, he screeches and crawls all over us. Lately, K does not want to go back to sleep after 4am or so (we put him to bed around 7pm, but we've tried later bedtimes - no change). This is just not acceptable. DH & I could handle a really early riser (i.e., 5:30am or so), but 4am is not rising early, IMO - it is waking up in the middle of the night.

 

I'm pretty sure that me sleeping next to K is not conducive to him getting a good night sleep - we're both really light sleepers, and I think we wake each other up. DH & I brought a queen-size mattress into the bedroom for us to sleep on, hoping that maybe being in the same room but on different beds would help. K woke up just as often, and either crawled up to us, or screamed until we went to him. We noticed that he often slept pretty well the first few hours after we put him to sleep, alone, before we went to bed. Feeling slightly wistful, I decided that he would be better off sleeping in his own room, and we moved the queen mattress out of that room into the living room (we have a large 1 bedroom apartment) so DH & I could sleep out there. And K slept great, only waking up twice - we were overjoyed! - for 2 nights. Then, it was back to waking every hour or so, taking forever to fall back asleep (even after being nursed), and only staying asleep with constant patting until morning (we tend to give up and get up with him for the day between 5-5:30am).

 

Needless to say, all 3 of us are exhausted. DH just commented this morning "It's funny, because K is such a wonderful, sweet, happy little guy, who brings so much joy to our lives - but our lives are horrible because we never get any sleep". I totally agree. I just keep hoping we'll find the magic combination that actually works. I'm not willing to let him CIO, both because I don't like it myself and I know it wouldn't work for K. I'm happy to try anything else, though. I've thought about night weaning, but I don't know whether that would help - it really seems like K just has serious difficulties staying asleep.

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thanks you Cristeen and Saguaro for your support - I rationally know it was the right thing to do but emotionally ... still very hard. I think I benefited from this being the second time around. Just putting a lot less pressure on myself this time around.

It has been nearly two weeks, though, and my left breast is a bit engorged and uncomfortable... How long will this take and also, why just one side? I don't have an infection or anything and can gently express some with my hand but honestly, I'm wondering how long my body is going to take to stop producing milk? With DS1 he was 17 months and I don't think I was producing all that much at that point anyway. So I dont remember much engorgement.
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Rozzie, did you quit cold-turkey with your DS1? I know when I weaned the other two it was more gradual so there was more time for my body to slow down production. You often frequently have lopsided production of milk- I know i produce more on my left (probably because whenever I'm not thinking about sides, I automatically put Everett to the left). You could try the cabbage leaves in your bra when you're home, see if it makes a difference?

Everett doesn't bite, thank god, but he pinches and that's driving me up the wall. With nursing, I feel like I'm always walking that line between "that's it, we're DONE!" and "well.... maybe just one more month." I spent about 3 hours last night googling nightweaning, and kept reading things like- "anything before 2 is too early; I never nightwean until my child is at least 3; I don't wean until my baby can understand that boobs go night-night" which mostly made me feel like crap and give up on the idea for a little while.

Everything Saguro said is us exactly. Everett went through a stage of waking every 45 minutes and I was at the end of my rope. Right when I thought I was going to move out and live with a family that DIDN'T keep me awake all night long, he stopped and started sleeping in 3-4 hour chunks and only up 3 times a night. It lasted maybe a week. We're back to every 45 minutes. Last night, between the 3 kids waking at night (what's with that???) I finally fell asleep at 2:30 and was up for the day at 5:30 when Everett started play-shrieking and pulling my hair like some sort of manic-child. He is consistently waking earlier than the other two, often between 5-5:30, nevermind that it's still dark. I think this current waking is those three teeth- one bottom, two top- that I can see RIGHT under the gums now, little white lines that just need to break through. Nightweaning when he's in pain and miserable is probably a bad idea.

I have started making an effort to not let him fall asleep nursing- even for naps and going to bed the first time, I let him nurse until he's had a good letdown and then pat him to sleep. The first few times he was NOT impressed but he's adjusting pretty well. This works well until about 3 am (maybe?), when I think I must stumble to his room and fall asleep there while he's nursing. I keep waking up in the twin bed he sleeps on, in his room, with no memory of when or how I ended up there.

I'm with Saguro on the sex too. It's good when we're both awake enough, when it's a good time of the month (probably when I'm ovulating? Heh). I HATE hate hate the random fondling/grabbing/touching/cuddling, but I know from past experience that if I try to keep him from touching me then he starts thinking I don't love him and he gets really depressed, so I just grit my teeth and put up with it for a couple of minutes. I know that as babies get older, wake me less at night, nurse less, etc it gets better so I just have to make it through the next 6 months or so and it will get better.
 

Oh, and also: I cut out coffee. Good timing! 

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Yeah, I think by 17 months DS1 was pretty much self weaned already, I was only nursing at night - and really, only right before bed, not even throughout the night. So my body was winding down anyway. This time around, my (left) breast is still ready to produce many many ounces of milk. I had actually thought I was preparing a bit because I first quit pumping about a month before stopping altogether, but I was still

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Rozzie, did you quit cold-turkey with your DS1? I know when I weaned the other two it was more gradual so there was more time for my body to slow down production. You often frequently have lopsided production of milk- I know i produce more on my left (probably because whenever I'm not thinking about sides, I automatically put Everett to the left). You could try the cabbage leaves in your bra when you're home, see if it makes a difference?
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Oh, and also: I cut out coffee. Good timing! 

OMG WHY??? :)

I am on my third sleepy cup of the morning caffix.gifas we also have a play shrieker waking up throughout the night this week. He's getting three more teeth at least. Including, I believe, the awful incisors.

Plus, I think he may be prepping for walking on his own, and he is practicing standing all night. UGH. I look at my 4 year old and think, he was once a terrible night sleeper too, and now he sleeps 13 hours straight ... so one day Kai will get there too! right???

I hate being tired. sleeping.gif

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All is well over here!

 

The older too are doing well at school our son in Kinder and older DD in 3rd, just had there spring concerts. Sångs iron was low so giving her floravital.

Sång tuned 1 year on 3/15!! It was so fun and all the memories of her being born at 30 weeks. She is well about 15 lbs and cruising the furniture, she now tries to take a step if she is close enough to the couch as she can stand freely from a squatting position LOL! She says about 7 words two are in Swedish clearly and she says a bunch of other long "baby" "sentences" that i interpret but not sure if I always know what she is saying. She loves music and dances. She has four teeth front and center. She is eating some things now but still prefers nursing. She loves her brother and sister and she's a happy Sång :-)

 

I can't believe she is 1 MY BABY!!!

 

 

 

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`Wow. Thanks for the info Cristeen. I will respond to more of it later, but I read it and appreciate it. I did get D. to drink goats milk now.

I have also pretty much weaned D.

It has been a week since we nursed. She is taking Meyenbergs goat millk (dried) and to get her to drink it I add.....*sigh*.....

1/2 tsp french vanilla creamer.

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Ok, I don't feel that guilty about it to be honest. I did at first, but then I looked at the ingredients. Milk cream, sugar, and vanilla flavoring. Compared to formula - I can pronounce those so I can't feel too awful. She now happily drinks a bottle 1x a day.

 

She was biting also but mostly I weaned because I have not been producing as much once I turned 12 weeks pregnant. I bought Rainbow lights infant and toddler powder vitamin packs with probiotics at Fredmeyer ($15 for a 1 month supply)  and am going to start giving her that.

I still offered and she'd latch for a minute and then get off and not be interested. So I just haven't offered for about 4 days and outside of boob pats (which ALL of my babes have done) she hasn't shown any interest.

 

We made it nearly 11 months, so I don't feel too bad. Bfing is wonderful, and the best thing for babies but really - there is a lot of woo out there around how 'magical' it is. Some times it plain sucks.

 

 

12 weeks pregnant and I have a midwife appointment for next wednesday. Isn't it crazy? I can't believe no one else is pregnant yet.

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Sang is beautiful as always.

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Originally Posted by rozziemama View Post

OMG WHY??? :)

I am on my third sleepy cup of the morning caffix.gifas we also have a play shrieker waking up throughout the night this week. He's getting three more teeth at least. Including, I believe, the awful incisors.

Plus, I think he may be prepping for walking on his own, and he is practicing standing all night. UGH. I look at my 4 year old and think, he was once a terrible night sleeper too, and now he sleeps 13 hours straight ... so one day Kai will get there too! right???

I hate being tired. sleeping.gif

 

Seriously. The first week-ish without coffee was a general fog of exhaustion, but I'm feeling better. I think I had overloaded my system with coffee to the point that half a cup in the morning was hitting me way, way too hard. I started to get shakey and jittery and clumsy before I'd finished the cup.

Bottom tooth cut yesterday- praise the Lord! He slept in 3 hour chunks last night. Still up 5 times, but I actually got some solid sleep (I even had a dream!) for the first night in awhile. Of course, now I feel like garbage today. Why does that always happen!


And Happy Birthday, Sang! I can't believe she's 1, either- all our babies are gonna get there soon. Amazing, sometimes, to realize a year has gone by. She's looking beautiful. And seven words- wow! Thats great.

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Sang is 1 already?  Wow!!  And walking and talking!  She's beautiful!

 

We saw home health this week.  E is 18 lbs, 5 oz, which is squarely 50th %tile.  And she didn't see anything to be concerned about developmentally.  She still only has 1 word (dada)... WHOOPS!!  She just said MAMA!!  YEAH!!!  Ok, gonna go cry now.  Gotta go pick up my girl and give her hugs. 

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