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Originally Posted by Becky Wheeler View Post

No HPT until Monday. SOO broke right now. lol And we need a new thermometer. The other one got chewed by, guess who? Levi. I wish my body would just decide to have a period and just do it every month! This is ridiculous. How the heck does one do NFP with THIS going on?

 

Also, to answer your question, you DON'T NFP with no thermometer.  Abstain, or condoms.  

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I didn't ask what anyone thought about birth control. I asked what you thought about maybe what my body was doing. Not looking for a lecture. Sorry if that sounds bitchy, but I'll figure that part out.


Edited by Becky Wheeler - 4/26/13 at 11:26pm
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Have you been nursing more than normal? Maybe that's causing you to not have a period? And even though you've been regular, maybe you're still regulating... I did a month on/month off once my cycle came back for like six months. I hated it.
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Also, I'm tired and can't figure out what NFP stands for.
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Originally Posted by CDsMom1031 View Post

Also, I'm tired and can't figure out what NFP stands for.

Natural Family Planning

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Becky, I don't think people here are "lecturing" you, but rather expressing concern about your family and your financial situation.  If you can't afford a home pregnancy test or a thermometer, what options will you have if you get pregnant again? 

 

You post here under your real name (I think), and I know there are people in other parts of the Internet who are sleuthing what town you live in.  I'm sure you can figure why they're doing this. 

Please make the right decisions for yourself and the children you already have, before that decision-making power is taken away from you.  

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Becky, what is the situation with your dh's vas?  Isn't it covered by his insurance?  It was a really quick procedure and pretty quick recovery... just a couple of days.  Then 20 or so "emissions" later you're free and clear. 

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http://www.bridgercare.org offers free pg tests and contraception in Bozeman, Becky.  

Nobody is lecturing.  We have "known" you for over 2 years.  You post about money woes, how your older child is not allowed to share a room per CPS standards, and how you and your DH aren't on the same page regarding BC.  Then you post about baby fever and not having a period (possible pregnancy), and mention that you are so broke you can't afford a new thermometer or a HPT.  What are we supposed to say, Becky?  The risk of another pregnancy is not worth doing NFP because it's "most natural".  Frankly, the risk of another pregnancy is not worth having sex until you get a very effective birth control in place.  NFP-- not so effective.  A baby is a real person- Katie is right when she is saying you're playing with fire.  Think about it; in the name of having the "most natural birth control method"- one that you can't properly do because you don't have a thermometer- you are having unprotected sex which has a high potential of leading to a baby.  A baby that costs a whole lot of money to raise.  A baby costs WAY more than a thermometer or pack of pills or a vasectomy.  If you can't afford those things, you can't afford another child, and you can't afford to have sex.  Period.

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Originally Posted by glassesgirlnj View Post

You post here under your real name (I think), and I know there are people in other parts of the Internet who are sleuthing what town you live in.  I'm sure you can figure why they're doing this. 

 

 

I am so naive.  Why would someone do this?  (I honestly don't know!)  shy.gif

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 A baby that costs a whole lot of money to raise.  A baby costs WAY more than a thermometer or pack of pills or a vasectomy.  If you can't afford those things, you can't afford another child, and you can't afford to have sex.  Period.

I think that sometimes it can be really hard to internalize these ideas when it comes to sex.  Sex is often sudden, in the moment, and a seemingly harmless act between partners.  It can feel really separate from pregnancy or babies.  But the hard reality is that is not.  It is not separate from pregnancy and babies.  And in those few minutes of passion you could be drastically altering your life and the lives of your other children.  I feel like I can speak from experience here...  I was practicing NFP when were TTA and got pregnant with Austin and later due to further confusion, got pregnant with Avery.  We did not want a third child, but we took that risk and we had to deal with the consequences.  And I was temping, I am pretty well versed in the technique, and we were actively TTA.  My body defies many of the regular rules of NFP and if your cycles are irregular and you're not temping then your body does too.  What this means is, you could easily end like me, pregnant with another child you didn't plan.  This is a reality.   Becky, no one is trying to lecture.  We are trying to HELP.  You're posting here for advice and this is the advice we all have to offer b/c we care about you.  I think it's time to go to Planned Parenthood or the link that J posted and figure out the next step regarding your family.  Realistically, can you afford another child?  Do you even really want another child?  Or would you like to move on with your family and out of the baby stage?  Your dh seemed willing to get the vas, so do it!  Then you can have all the unprotected sex you want for the rest of your lives without fear of that unplanned, very expensive, life altering surprise baby.  Just please realize that he needs to have TWO zero sperm counts before you're free and clear.  I have a friend with a vasectomy baby... they didn't wait out the zero counts.

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Becky, I think its true that we all care about you, your family, and your situation.  Nobody would say anything from a bad place, but more a place of concern and wanting the best for your family.  We may not "know" each other in physical life but we are absolutely all friends.  We all come to each other to ask for advice and share our victories.  I can see how some of the things said could be taken as an attack if you chose to see it that way-  so, if they made you angry I would not think that was a silly feeling.  But, I do see that these are all women who are wanting to make sure that the best things happen for you and your family, and they can see very realistically that having another baby would not be best for your family OR your relationship.  Even if they are saying them in a less than sugar-coated way. 

 

I recently had a month where I physically seemed to ovulate twice also, and my period was late.  My period eventually came, and my chart ended up showing me "almost" ovulating 9 days before I actually ovulated.  I was never concerned about pregnancy, though, because my DH had a vasectomy.

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Also to add, I used vaginal spermicide film and a diaphragm  for a long time with success.  There are no systemic hormones, no condoms, and it greatly reduces the chance of pregnancy.  These are both things that are available at Planned Parenthood.

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Becky, I think its true that we all care about you, your family, and your situation.  Nobody would say anything from a bad place, but more a place of concern and wanting the best for your family.  We may not "know" each other in physical life but we are absolutely all friends.  We all come to each other to ask for advice and share our victories.  I can see how some of the things said could be taken as an attack if you chose to see it that way-  so, if they made you angry I would not think that was a silly feeling.  But, I do see that these are all women who are wanting to make sure that the best things happen for you and your family, and they can see very realistically that having another baby would not be best for your family OR your relationship.  Even if they are saying them in a less than sugar-coated way.

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You post here under your real name (I think), and I know there are people in other parts of the Internet who are sleuthing what town you live in.  I'm sure you can figure why they're doing this. 


I am so naive.  Why would someone do this?  (I honestly don't know!)  shy.gif

 

Anthia, you're not alone. I'm curious what Kathy means too? Sheepish.gif

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Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of hormones, either. But I'm even less of a fan of a 5th kid! So I have a Mirena, which has been awesome. Love it. The Paraguard doesn't even have hormones. I chose the Mirena this time because the Paraguard caused heavy bleeding for me. But it's different for everyone.

 

 

Amanda, I've been really interested in getting an IUD, but I'm nervous about the insertion. I know very little about the procedure, but I was kind of scared by a comment an OB/gyn made to me years ago... just saying that she doesn't usually recommend IUDs to women unless they've already birthed a child before. I believe she was referring to anatomical reasons. A friend of mine said it was pretty painful to have inserted when she had it done. It also took her 3+ years to conceive a baby after the IUD was removed, and even though it didn't appear to be IUD-related, the idea still crosses my mind... you know?

 

I'd love if you could share some more about your experience with getting the IUD! Also, do you know if the Mirena gives off as much hormones as birth control pills, or is it a much lower amount?

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They have to dilate the cervix a bit to get the IUd in, easier for someone who has had a child and harder for someone who has not.
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Anthia, you're not alone. I'm curious what Kathy means too? Sheepish.gif

 



I meant my question in the most general way possible!  I m not trying to pry, but I wanted to know if crazy people patrol boards and if so, why?  Just being paranoid!

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They have to dilate the cervix a bit to get the IUd in, easier for someone who has had a child and harder for someone who has not.

 

Ah. That doesn't sound fun. At all. Will doctors insert an IUD shortly after childbirth (say, days or weeks) when the cervix is still more open? I'd totally get one after I have my next child if it'd be easier to just go that route... We are religious condom users in the meantime and wouldn't mind to continue for another year or two. If we do decide to have another baby, we'd probably try to get pregnant at the end of this year/early next year. I suppose it wouldn't make much sense for me to get an IUD right now. 

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I meant my question in the most general way possible!  I m not trying to pry, but I wanted to know if crazy people patrol boards and if so, why?  Just being paranoid!

I'm paranoid too! I don't even like using my kids real names on the board. Not because I don't trust all of YOU but because I have an ex...who has an ex...and I swear they are both out to get me. Lol.
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Ah. That doesn't sound fun. At all. Will doctors insert an IUD shortly after childbirth (say, days or weeks) when the cervix is still more open? I'd totally get one after I have my next child if it'd be easier to just go that route... We are religious condom users in the meantime and wouldn't mind to continue for another year or two. If we do decide to have another baby, we'd probably try to get pregnant at the end of this year/early next year. I suppose it wouldn't make much sense for me to get an IUD right now. 


Yes.  I have never used an IUD, but my midwife did tell me that if I wanted one, that I should do it soon after childbirth.  She said it is easier to insert after not too much time has passed.  One of my friends who uses an IUD loves her IUD with hormones.  I personally would use the copper one over the hormone one, but I've heard you need to make sure you get enough zinc if you have the copper IUD. 

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