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post #161 of 238
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Originally Posted by Munchkin08 View Post

Green poop (which LO has hade for two days now) is a sign of fore/hind milk imbalance and over supply issues ? As if bf isn't hard enough!

We are going to DR tmw for one month apt. Hopefully they will know if that is why this is happening even tho they aren't an LC.

Green poop means too much foremilk. That usually happens if you don't nurse long enough on one side. When I first breastfed there was so much emphasis put on feeding on both breasts, that I would feed a little on one side, then go to the other side. DS was only getting the thin foremilk this way and his poop turned green. Once I learned what was going on, he became a one-boob eater (per feeding)- no more green poop and both of us were happier (once my milk regulated to the one boob thing).

 

By the way, you asked about pumping on one side so it could heal- that's what I did and it helped a lot!

post #162 of 238
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Originally Posted by cagnew View Post

Green poop means too much foremilk. That usually happens if you don't nurse long enough on one side. When I first breastfed there was so much emphasis put on feeding on both breasts, that I would feed a little on one side, then go to the other side. DS was only getting the thin foremilk this way and his poop turned green. Once I learned what was going on, he became a one-boob eater (per feeding)- no more green poop and both of us were happier (once my milk regulated to the one boob thing).

 

By the way, you asked about pumping on one side so it could heal- that's what I did and it helped a lot!


I didn't know this! And is too much foremilk a bad thing?

post #163 of 238
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Originally Posted by jessmn View Post


I didn't know this! And is too much foremilk a bad thing?

If a baby is truly getting only (or mostly) fore milk, I would think that would be bad. Isn't the hind milk the milk that's rich and fatty? 

 

Here is a good link from mothering talking about this: http://www.mothering.com/community/t/39091/correcting-a-foremilk-hindmilk-imbalance

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By the way, you asked about pumping on one side so it could heal- that's what I did and it helped a lot!

 

The LC was not worried about an imbalance in milk. So that is one less thing to worry about. I think I am still dealing with three things on the right side - 1. inverted nipple, if I don't make sure it is "out" before nursing it is (obviously) painful, 2. the latch (I am still learning how to do this right! so hard), and 3. vasospasm on the nipples. The LC understands that in this "transitional" phase I may need to pump on right side and feed on the left. 

 

One strategy we talked about was sometimes start nursing on the right and then go to the left, but when I start on the left instead of giving LO the right I can give her a bottle of pumped milk. 

 

How did you go about pumping one side?

post #165 of 238

Munchkin: I just fed the baby on one side, which was enough milk for her without having to give her an additional bottle. I have an oversupply issue... which pumping did make worse. I guess that was my only negative side effect. Anyway, I pumped my left side for a day or so and used a cream concoction my LC recommended (equal parts of hydrocortisone, polysporin, and Miconazole Nitrate (the yeast infection cream... like Monistat... all mixed together and used 4 times a day). My nipple healed up fairly quickly once I started doing that. When I started feeding the baby on it again, I only did it if it was tolerable. If it hurt too much, I took her off and just pumped because I didn't want to screw it up again. 

 

So basically, if it hurt too much to feed on on it, I pumped and just fed her on the other side or with a bottle. 

 

I used every tool I had at my disposal to get through the first two weeks (which were hell)- pumping, bottle feeding (breastmilk), using the pain meds I had, nursing on one side, the cream stuff, the gel pads. I cried a lot too, lol. Pumping led to oversupply issues, but that got fixed this past weekend.

 

The funny thing is, we never figured out what was wrong. Her latch was fine and has never changed. Maybe I developed nipples of steel and that's what it doesn't hurt anymore. Or maybe she just got better at sucking or something. Heck, she still makes clicking noises on the right side only, and I can't get her to stop that. It doesn't hurt and it doesn't interfere with feeding, so I guess I will just let it go.

post #166 of 238

Munchkin I get vasospasms too (sometimes I can't differentiate between the pain from that and the pain from thrush).  It is worse when I am cold.

post #167 of 238
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Originally Posted by 1babysmom View Post

Munchkin I get vasospasms too (sometimes I can't differentiate between the pain from that and the pain from thrush).  It is worse when I am cold.

yes! This is the exact problem I am having. Any way to remedy it?
post #168 of 238
Just dont get them cold or expose them to air when they are wet...? LOL. I have had trouble with vasospasms for 9.5 years, even before I started nursing, and I just have to warm them up if I start feeling the pain. It is HORRIBLE in the winter though, the pain makes me sick.
post #169 of 238
The occupational therapist at the hospital here says that that clicking or smacking sound just means they have a weaker suck. If ur baby prefers one side and only does that on one side it could just be easier for her to latch and suck on the side she prefers. Penny has a weak suck because of her jaw alignment and she was making that sound however she ate and was leaking milk out of the side of her mouth.
post #170 of 238
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LO has been having a lot of Pee diapers but didn't poop at all yesterday. I can hear major rumbling and she is tooting some but I'm expecting a major blowout when she goes. Poor thing is writhing and I was up a lot with her last time. I spent ages sitting up with her on her left side and draped over my chest on her belly. Nothing. I dont know how to help her go.
post #171 of 238
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Originally Posted by TIFF4NY View Post

LO has been having a lot of Pee diapers but didn't poop at all yesterday. I can hear major rumbling and she is tooting some but I'm expecting a major blowout when she goes. Poor thing is writhing and I was up a lot with her last time. I spent ages sitting up with her on her left side and draped over my chest on her belly. Nothing. I dont know how to help her go.

Gray usually poops twice a day and when he goes, he has big blowouts. At first, he pooped constantly but that has changed. He writhes and fusses and has major grumbling in his belly. I just massage his belly a little and try to nurse him through it. The massaging really seems to help him... Maybe some gripe water will help if you feel like she's too uncomfortable. I've used it a couple of times and I think it helped some. Luckily, we don't have many tummy issues. He has only spit up three times since he was born over a month ago and he doesn't have any issues except when he needs to poop. Hope things get better for her! 

post #172 of 238

Tiff4ny, you might want to try BioGaia baby probiotics. They are expensive but I've heard amazing things about them for baby digestion and also there is research about them aiding in colic, too. Rheiner is on them, as of a couple days ago. The jury is still out if they help him. Like with the Colic Calm, I thought so at first and then a few cranky nights, so we'll see.

post #173 of 238
Thread Starter 

I have the colic calm and it does help calm her but she still hasn't pooped. I'll get the BG tomorrow and give that a whirl. I'll be happy when this LO poops though! She's never had a problem before so I hope this is a one off.

post #174 of 238
How much colic calm do you give her?
post #175 of 238
Thread Starter 

I gave her about half of the recommended 1/4 tsp.

post #176 of 238
Tiff4ny, you can try laying her on the back and holding onto her feet or ankles and move her legs like she is walking and bring her knees up to her belly. That can help get things going.
post #177 of 238
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Tiff4ny, you can try laying her on the back and holding onto her feet or ankles and move her legs like she is walking and bring her knees up to her belly. That can help get things going.

 

That used to work like a charm for DD1. So far, no luck with DD2. Even as I type this she is laying on her back cycling her legs on her own. I even lay her on her belly and I've been massaging her tummy. I also hold her on my chest and fold her legs up underneath her. No luck. 

post #178 of 238

Zack had almost a week of super fussy, gassy times. Now he's having quite the growth spurt! It helped to have his belly on my or DH's shoulder. We had some looong evenings, then he slept ALL day yesterday. He woke up every 2 hours to nurse, and kept falling back asleep. He slept pretty well last night (waking every 2 hours to nurse) and today was awake, alert, and hungry! He was fussing at the breast during the past week, too, but today seems to be feeling like himself, but hungrier. All of these different phases can be so confusing! Maybe your daughter is on the verge of a growth spurt, Tiffany? I hope she settles down and feels better soon! Also, I remember reading that babies poop every time they eat when very little, and gradually their digestion changes and they shift to pushing the poo out when their intestines are full, so maybe that's part of it for our babies, too? They'll switch it up again once we get this figured out, anyway! :-)

post #179 of 238
I'm pretty sure Theodore has GERD. :/

Poor little man. I'm just glad we don't have carpet. It's a lot easier to clean up the huge pools of spit up on a laminate floor.
post #180 of 238
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Originally Posted by 1babysmom View Post

Just dont get them cold or expose them to air when they are wet...? LOL. I have had trouble with vasospasms for 9.5 years, even before I started nursing, and I just have to warm them up if I start feeling the pain. It is HORRIBLE in the winter though, the pain makes me sick.

did you ever look into Raynaud's of the nipples? My MW told me about this after I gave birth. Not sure that it applies to me, but it sounds like what you might be experiencing? 

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/113/4/e360.full

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