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Baby not moving enough?

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
I saw a new midwife, everything felt so different with her. She was very concerned that i am not feeling movement everyday. And that when i feel movement its not a bigger movement, does that make sense? I told her i felt movement when going to bed or waking up sometimes, around my partner&his deeper voice& when overly tired/hungry. She suggested ultrasound to check. I wasnt planning on any more ultrasounds, &she just felt panic-y to me. Then she was saying how everyone feels things so different maybe I am just not describing it accurately enough. I am not going to let myself feel pressured by this&dont want to pressure my baby to move more. She said the ultrasound would give them more info&check what kind of movements baby is doing that i am not feeling........blah blah blah.....what do you all think? Anyone else have really gentle movements only? I felt a poke or two lately, so i figured that a good sign of growth. Can i add that she then couldnt find the heartbeat with fetoscope= more panic. She was pressuring me to use doppler &i made her get someone else to do fetoscope...Stressful day. I think i may be not going back there anyway. Just confused.....
post #2 of 21

Did the other person find the heartbeat with the fetoscope. My midwife has no issues finding the heartbeat with that. I don't do doppler anymore, though I did do it a few times earlier in the pregnancy. 

 

I get lots of movement this time. But, depending on your placenta position and stuff that could have something to do with feeling less movement. 

 

This is an interesting, quick read...

http://americanpregnancy.org/duringpregnancy/kickcounts.htm

 

Says some first time moms don't feel movement until closer to 25 weeks. Not sure how far along you are? But, I think you are most likely fine and that midwife seems a bit odd to me? Like maybe she was just trying to scare you into stuff, which isn't cool. You do what you feel comfortable with. If you have limited options on care providers, you may wish to consider where you would like to fight your battles most though. Decided what is most important to you. Just think about it and your options. Hope you get it figured out. 

post #3 of 21
Why did you not want to use the doppler? I'm due at the end of July, and have an anterior placenta, and I feel pretty big movement everyday.
post #4 of 21
Have you had any ultrasounds yet?

I have an anterior placenta and feel movement everyday, all day long. It's true that everyone is different but I highly doubt your midwife was trying to pressure you into anything. Lack of movement can be a reason for concern and it sounds like she's being cautious. To me, that's a good thing to have in a care provider.

I would try discussing it with her. Do it with an open mind and I'm sure she will do the same thi g for you.
post #5 of 21
I'm 27 wks, 6 days and I feel movement daily. first child. I can even see him kick my tummy. My placenta is also anterior. How far along are you? Are you measuring on track?
I was wondering why you don't want an ultrasound? are you not covered for them with insurance?
I found out at my last ultrasound that he is laying head down on his side, so that's why I only ever feel movement on one side of my belly. I agree with kalista, caution and concern are good in a provider- it shows they care for you and your baby.
post #6 of 21

Ah, the other gals make good points. I've read that ultrasound is less concentrated than doppler, so you might choose that if you can. I'm sure you are worried first about your baby's well being and I've had ultrasounds with all my pregnancies and healthy children all around. Also, had doppler with 3 of the 4, so yeah. I wouldn't worry too much about using it when deemed necessary. 

post #7 of 21

I feel like maybe if it were me, I'd check.  I'm 27+6 and feeling tons and tons of movement every day - belly shaking movement.  If I weren't I'd be concerned at this stage.

post #8 of 21

how far along are you? i am 30 weeks and we have belly shaking movement here too multiple times a day. i do know that children can vary in the womb--my other LO stayed on my left side head down with what i remember as smaller movements...but this one has been horizontal and even had a movement the other day so big that i caught my breath--twice. 

 

i understand your midwife's concern, but i also think sometimes even midwives can be too medical. i truly think it's only a call you can make...but i'd say even if a midwife has concerns it's not a good sign that you don't feel comforted or that you could count on her or talk with her about your concerns. i'd say see a person you can feel comfortable with is super important--especially if they have concerns--and especially during birth. but again, i'd say that regardless if you decide to have another ultrasound or not. 

 

i am not planning on any ultrasound because i don't think they are proven long-term safe-- but i do think they can be helpful if you think there's a problem. and i know i'd use it if i felt it necessary.

 

hugs mama. sounds like a stressful time. 

post #9 of 21
I totally understand being wary of the technology, I feel like its ok to question the automatic routine use of things like the doppler and ultrasound... And I trust my midwife to tell my when the situation warrants their use. I think the key is trusting your care provider... If it isn't a good match with personalities then it is hard to have that trust- I totally understand that.

And every baby IS different.

My sons heartbeat was so easy to find we could hear it with a stethoscope at 17 weeks and it was easily found with the fetascope. And his movements were so big my belly was like a jello mold. My daughter was posterior and low, so we couldn't find her heartbeat so easily but she moved enough that we felt ok about that. But her movements were totally different from my sons- she was a mellow mellow baby. I think the midwife found her heartbeat about four times in the whole pregnancy. ( I had a fetoscope that I listened with at home)
This baby kicks the tar out of me all day but the heartbeat is really hard to find, we finally used the doppler for 15 seconds and it was hard with that.

If your midwife is concerned about the information she was given/could gather during your appointment, perhaps you could keep a journal of kick counts and bring it with you next time, since you're uncomfortable with ultrasounds, and then discuss whether there is a need for one ...It sounds like she just needs more certain information.

Of course you want to know if your baby is growing on the broad spectrum of normal, so does your midwife, it's just about finding a way to work together on that, find the balance between your personal comfort level and her professional comfort level.

It's so hard, this pregnancy thing. Hang in there.
post #10 of 21

One of our babies died at 38 weeks, if I were in your shoes i would ABSOLUTELY DO THE ULTRASOUND to make sure my baby was ok.  Smaller movements could be a sign of distress or not enough movements = distress etc.  I would NOT chance it in any way shape form or fashion, but that's just me.
 

post #11 of 21
Not liking what you're hearing doesn't mean your midwife isn't doing the right thing or isn't trustworthy. She sounded cautious, but isn't that a good thing when it's your baby's health?
post #12 of 21
Thread Starter 
Everyone-thank you. I am having a quiet weekend where I am paying extra special attention and kick counting. I am finding more movement than I thought, so I am not sure if its a memory thing on my part or a sudden change. So far today its about 10 little kicks 4 times a day, & doing cold drinks to stimulate movement.. I am thinking deeply about all your comments & am in touch with my providers& some extra midwife friends. Maybe I have been too stressed ...I am working on it. I will think further about the ultrasound after tomorrows phone call. I hope my counts are a good sign. I am taking this very seriously, will be back to answer people thoughtful questions.
post #13 of 21

My baby doesn't move a lot either. I regularly feel the baby but not quite at the kicking level, more at the flip-flopping level, and up until this week (30 weeks) it's been only 1-2 times a day. I have an anterior placenta so that is part of it. I've had some extra ultrasounds and even was in the hospital for some heart monitoring and check ups and everything looks totally normal. I would get it checked out if it were me in your situation, I feel that I just don't have a good baseline to notice decreased movement because I feel it so rarely, so the checkups have given me good confidence. I also think the movement is picking up now that I'm 30 weeks, which is a relief. 

post #14 of 21
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Originally Posted by dayiscoming2006 View Post

 I've read that ultrasound is less concentrated than doppler, so you might choose that if you can.

This isn't strictly true. It's a bit more complicated than just more concentrated or not. The doppler IS more concentrated (smaller wand, one direction,) but uses sound waves at a much lower frequency than ultra sound.
Both are very very safe, and the only real way for them to be unsafe is if someone actually opens them up and messes with the manufacturer's safety settings. 

post #15 of 21

Rainbownurse, good to know. I do avoid them both most of the time myself, but sometimes they are useful. Will be letting my midwife use doppler for the labor for example since it's much easier to find the heartbeat with doppler in labor.

post #16 of 21

Do you all feel variable amounts of movement, day to day? Like some days are a lot of punching and kicking and other days are more squirmy than kicky? I just hit 30 weeks and am feeling very large - so maybe Babe just has more room to do certain things certain days?

post #17 of 21
I definitely feel more movement some days than others. For the most part I experience either a) BH contractions, b) baby movement, or c) sleep. There is some downtime in between but not much. I feel fewer movements when I'm active and on my feet because then I have a lot more BH.
post #18 of 21

Yeah, it's normal to feel varied amount and types of movements. I feel more movement when I am resting or after having something to eat. Babies tend to have smaller movements as they fill up the limited space as well.

post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by wrenmoon View Post

I totally understand being wary of the technology, I feel like its ok to question the automatic routine use of things like the doppler and ultrasound... And I trust my midwife to tell my when the situation warrants their use. I think the key is trusting your care provider... If it isn't a good match with personalities then it is hard to have that trust- I totally understand that.

And every baby IS different.

My sons heartbeat was so easy to find we could hear it with a stethoscope at 17 weeks and it was easily found with the fetascope. And his movements were so big my belly was like a jello mold. My daughter was posterior and low, so we couldn't find her heartbeat so easily but she moved enough that we felt ok about that. But her movements were totally different from my sons- she was a mellow mellow baby. I think the midwife found her heartbeat about four times in the whole pregnancy. ( I had a fetoscope that I listened with at home)
This baby kicks the tar out of me all day but the heartbeat is really hard to find, we finally used the doppler for 15 seconds and it was hard with that.

If your midwife is concerned about the information she was given/could gather during your appointment, perhaps you could keep a journal of kick counts and bring it with you next time, since you're uncomfortable with ultrasounds, and then discuss whether there is a need for one ...It sounds like she just needs more certain information.

Of course you want to know if your baby is growing on the broad spectrum of normal, so does your midwife, it's just about finding a way to work together on that, find the balance between your personal comfort level and her professional comfort level.

It's so hard, this pregnancy thing. Hang in there.

Ditto, 100%
post #20 of 21
Thread Starter 
One month later I am still not sure, definitely feeling more& stronger movements, but....just so gentle....I think everythings ok though. I wonder if others saying they felt only w little have changed....i measure on time, just having trouble eating as much as i want. Obsessing over checking by ultrasound, but i dont have any warning signs. Maybe baby is just gentle.
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