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Dd's school is going to administer one of the following to help us fill out the Iowa Acceleration Scale (IAS): Wechsler Individual Achievement Test - 3rd edition (WIAT 3), or Woodcock Johnson Third edition Tests of Achievement (WJ III) , or Kaufman Tests of Educational Achievement - 2nd edition (KTEA 2). 


Dd is 6 years old and I would like to show her some of the types of questions that will be on these tests so she's more familiar with them and feels more comfortable taking the test.  Does anyone have resources I can access quickly to help with this?  I've been searching the internet, but not easily finding sample problems.  The test is going to be administered within the next week or so, which means I need easily accessible resources.


Also, we'll need an IQ/capabilities test to fill out the IAS and the waiting list with our insurance is 6 months.  We need to figure this out before next school year.  Our school district does not offer IQ testing.  Does anyone have a recommendation for online IQ tests for her age group?  I've seen some that allow you take them for free and then pay for the results that seem to have fairly reliable norms.  Perhaps we could at least get a ballpark of her IQ from something like this?  Thoughts?


Thanks in advance!

post #2 of 8

Online IQ is not valid.  If you need an IQ for the IAS, then the school needs to administer it.  The school can indeed give an IQ test if it's a publicly funded school as this is a key part of special education qualification and monitoring.  The IAS should only be used with individually administered IQ tests, and it lists the ones that are recommended.


DO NOT PREP for the achievement or IQ tests as it will invalidate the results.  Respectable testers will invalidate the results if they catch wind that you've prepped the child on the questions. 


Good advice on prepping the child's mental state about how to approach the testing experience is here:


post #3 of 8
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Thanks Geofizz.  The school says they don't give IQ tests.  They offered the achievement test only.  Apparently their acceleration process only includes one achievement test and a conference with select staff members.  I would like the IAS filled out to make sure we're covering all our bases when considering this option.  Perhaps I can push for it, but when I asked earlier they looked at me like I was a bit crazy.  This district does not have a gifted program so I think they probably don't see a need for it.


I've had my IQ tested with a professional and I've taken several online tests as well as one that was one TV... they all give about the same result.  I feel like a ballpark figure is better than no figure...? 


As for prepping for an achievement test, that wasn't really my intention.  I know prepping for an IQ test would defeat the purpose, but achievement tests are prepped for all the time.  There are plenty of resources for the ITBS and other state achievement tests, I studied like crazy for the GRE, and there are prep courses for the SAT's.  I don't plan on drilling her or anything, my intention was just to have her familiar with the format of the test and what some of the questions might look like so that when she sits down with the tester she feels more comfortable.  Anyone have any ideas?

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Thank you for the link- I just read it.  I will definitely make use of those suggestions to help her mentally prepare.  I can absolutely see her falling into some of the mistakes she mentioned!

post #5 of 8

Can you look at the state's standardized testing? Our state has tests available online, which was helpful to me as a homeschooler to catch things I wouldn't otherwise have. For example: DS didn't recognize the drawings of coins, because we use *actual* coins, or just talk about them. 


It probably didn't change his scores significantly, and seeing unfamiliar things on the practice test did not in fact faze him, but the review made me feel better.


Also, how can I say this, there are some dumb questions. (I remember one question in which the correct answer said that "special" meant the same thing as "unique." If you have a child who gets tripped up on exactness, it can be good to look at some examples of reading comprehension and vocabulary and grammar testing.


When it comes to mentally prepping, I do think it's useful to prep the child for the experience of ceiling out; and, also, to prep the child to slog through a non-trivial amount of basic drill first. If the tester insists on working through many pages to determine mastery, it can take some time. For my kiddo, it wasn't so much being mentally tired as having an aching hand from all the writing.



post #6 of 8
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Thank you Heather.  Those are great tips.  I was thinking several of the same things myself.  I did pick up a test prep book for typical state achievement tests (like the ITBS) and showed her some of the problems that had money and it was good to compare the pictures with the coins so she was familiar with that.  Also, I've found it good practice to talk through some of the listening type problems so that she's aware that she needs to listen carefully and not just jump to the first thing she remembers about the story.  And similarly with the grammar section, it was helpful to remind her to read each answer before selecting so that she didn't miss things like apostrophes or question marks. 


I really do feel that these are test related issues, not knowledge related issues and I feel that this is acceptable prep for an achievement test.  I'll be sure to talk to her about the ceiling idea as well since the test she is receiving will be like that and not like a state test that simply ends after a certain number of questions.

post #7 of 8
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The testing went really well.  My daughter had a great attitude about it and didn't seem bothered at all.  I think she really benefited from the prepping we did- talking about how the test might be administered, what kinds of questions might be on it, how to ask questions if she is confused, to take her time, to write things down if she needs to, to do her best and not make funny/silly answers, etc., etc.  She ended up receiving the Kaufman and we did do some standardized test prep, which was also very helpful.  It was good to review some of the math that she and I had worked on at home (instruction above the kinder level that she was receiving at school) as this was on the test and she scored very high in math because of it.  Had I known what was going to be on the writing portion we could have worked on that as well.  Apparently she was asked to summarize a story and she simply recounted how the story ended instead of summarizing the beginning, middle, and end.  That would have been something she could have been easily taught in about 5 minutes.


All in all, it was a positive experience and plugging these scores into the Iowa Acceleration scale has helped us to make a decision about her schooling for next year.

post #8 of 8
Im a spec. Ed teacher and have given the WJ III many, many times. She will not be caught off guard by the questions. The ques start out very simple and work up to being more and more difficult. You can tell her ahead of time (and the tester should also tell her) not to feel bad if the questions become too hard because this test is also given to kids much older and she hasn't been taught a lot of the things yet.

Most kids I test I start a grade or two below what they are able to do because it builds their confidence. Some do feel bad when they can't answer the questions but I remind them that the test is also for older kids. If they are feeling really bad I tell them the grade level of the ques. they are answering like "honey you are already answering 3rd grade questions! You are doing great!"
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