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post #21 of 103

Can't say that I've noticed!

post #22 of 103
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Originally Posted by Jaimee View Post

Can't say that I've noticed!
Haha, S sits far enough back on the potty that you can see the ballooning and we hold him in arms on public toilets. A doc at the ER tried to see how far the little guy could retract (and flipped out when DP said we don't retract and called our doctor to see if it was true that she didn't tell us to gently retract as far as it will go every day to loosen it up and clean it *sigh*) and I've noticed the baby partially retract himself since then, but he has a much shorter skin.
post #23 of 103
Can we bring back this thread? I will stay glued to it for as long as anyone is willing to help me get through my first child's potty learning experience! Sora is ready but WE have not been... I feel so bad that I've been intentionally ignoring the signs for a while now because I just wasn't ready... Meanwhile, I talked to her daycare provider today and she said Sora tells her all the time that she has to go potty. Gah! My kid is VERBALIZING those words, taking off her own diapers, and I've selfishly sat back ignoring it. :( Bad mommy. I'm going to Google everything I can to figure out a game plan beginning Saturday morning... We are going to do this! Meep.
post #24 of 103
Don't over think it! Get a potty, put her on it. She seems to understand you really well, just tell her what it is and to tell you when she needs to go. Perhaps make a fun chart and get some stickers she can put on when she goes. When kids are ready, IME, it's easy.
post #25 of 103
Ooo I love the sticker chart idea, Ash! She would love that! Especially if I find some turtle stickers...... She sure loves turtles.
post #26 of 103

I can tell you how I trained Coralie to the point she is now.  I really didn't even intend on training her so early, as Olivine was 2yo and Cyan was 2.5 when I started training them.  When we moved here, my mom started to push me to buy Coralie some cotton training pants, because diapers are so hot.  I finally broke down and bought her some reusable pull-ups off of Ebay because they are easy to get on and hold one pee and solid poo.  I put her in those around 18mo and proceeded to change her every time she peed.  I would then randomly offer her the potty, but wasn't expecting much.  However, once she got one pee in the potty, she caught on quickly.  She didn't like to be wet or poopy, so she will always tell me when she's had an accident.  Over the course of a month or so she got better and better and then also started waking at night to pee.  Now she wears undies (or the cloth pullups) full time, including at night.  She rarely has an accident at night and if she does it's because I didn't get up to help her pee.  She still has 1-3 accidents a day and hasn't quite figured out pooping (she'll poop in the potty maybe 1/3 of the time.  She's still very young, so I'm just kind of going with the flow.  I would say that she tells me when she has to go about 1/2 of the time, the other times I have to remember or she'll have an accident.  It's almost more like ECing at this point because it's up to me to remind her so much.  I suspect in the next few weeks that she'll be 100% potty learned, but who knows for sure.  It's all new to me to have a mostly trained 20mo!

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alva-Reusable-Washable-Breathable-Organic-All-In-One-Baby-Training-Pants-Lot-/350814684424?pt=US_Childrens_Unisex_Clothing&var=&hash=item51ae2f4508

 

I bought 9 pairs of the training pants above, they are very affordable and now they come in even more colors than when I bought them.  They are good for awhile I figure, as they can be worn like underwear.  They are also good for keeping your floor clean!

post #27 of 103

Oh, and I agree with the others, don't over think it.  Offer the potty and let her go at her own pace, she'll get it soon enough.  

post #28 of 103
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Originally Posted by Abraisme View Post

I can tell you how I trained Coralie to the point she is now.  I really didn't even intend on training her so early, as Olivine was 2yo and Cyan was 2.5 when I started training them.  When we moved here, my mom started to push me to buy Coralie some cotton training pants, because diapers are so hot.  I finally broke down and bought her some reusable pull-ups off of Ebay because they are easy to get on and hold one pee and solid poo.  I put her in those around 18mo and proceeded to change her every time she peed.  I would then randomly offer her the potty, but wasn't expecting much.  However, once she got one pee in the potty, she caught on quickly.  She didn't like to be wet or poopy, so she will always tell me when she's had an accident.  Over the course of a month or so she got better and better and then also started waking at night to pee.  Now she wears undies (or the cloth pullups) full time, including at night.  She rarely has an accident at night and if she does it's because I didn't get up to help her pee.  She still has 1-3 accidents a day and hasn't quite figured out pooping (she'll poop in the potty maybe 1/3 of the time.  She's still very young, so I'm just kind of going with the flow.  I would say that she tells me when she has to go about 1/2 of the time, the other times I have to remember or she'll have an accident.  It's almost more like ECing at this point because it's up to me to remind her so much.  I suspect in the next few weeks that she'll be 100% potty learned, but who knows for sure.  It's all new to me to have a mostly trained 20mo!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alva-Reusable-Washable-Breathable-Organic-All-In-One-Baby-Training-Pants-Lot-/350814684424?pt=US_Childrens_Unisex_Clothing&var=&hash=item51ae2f4508

I bought 9 pairs of the training pants above, they are very affordable and now they come in even more colors than when I bought them.  They are good for awhile I figure, as they can be worn like underwear.  They are also good for keeping your floor clean!

Nice to se you on here again Abra! How do you find the size is, for those training pants? It says 8-18 months... Hmm... Since Eli is almost 22 months I wonder if they will fit...
post #29 of 103

Coralie still wears hers, they do have snaps on the front that makes them smaller, which we've never used.  Coralie is about 24lbs and 31-32" tall, she wears 18-24mo clothes and some 2t.  They still have plenty of room for her and I would think she can wear them for a long while yet.  Do I remember that Eli is on the larger side?  They will probably fit if he's tall and thin, but not if he's really chunky.  

 

ETA:  I just tried them on my 4yo DD1.  While I could get them on her, she complained that they're too tight.  She's a short, solid (big butt and thighs) girl and weighs about 34lbs.  I bet you could ask the ALVA company to start making them in the next size up.  They just started making them this year and have already added a lot of colors.  I bet a lot of people might be interested in a bigger size. 

post #30 of 103
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Originally Posted by Abraisme View Post

Coralie still wears hers, they do have snaps on the front that makes them smaller, which we've never used.  Coralie is about 24lbs and 31-32" tall, she wears 18-24mo clothes and some 2t.  They still have plenty of room for her and I would think she can wear them for a long while yet.  Do I remember that Eli is on the larger side?  They will probably fit if he's tall and thin, but not if he's really chunky.  

 

ETA:  I just tried them on my 4yo DD1.  While I could get them on her, she complained that they're too tight.  She's a short, solid (big butt and thighs) girl and weighs about 34lbs.  I bet you could ask the ALVA company to start making them in the next size up.  They just started making them this year and have already added a lot of colors.  I bet a lot of people might be interested in a bigger size. 

 

Yeah, I think they won't quite fit him then.  He is about 31 lbs, 36in tall ... he has a bit of a belly.  He isn't really chunky but he isn't super skinny either, sort of in between.  I will write them... that is a good idea.  I love the colours etc and they seem like they would be great to use since we live in a carpeted apartment:(:(

post #31 of 103

Joanie, I saw you posted in the chit chat thread that potty training wasn't going too well.  What strategy have you been employing?

 

I outlined what I did with Avalon and Austin in this post: http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1383547/potty-learning#post_17364194

 

With Avery, dh took the olders out of town for a week and I took the opportunity to focus on Avery.  I just had him go bottomless and I had a potty handy.  I followed him around for a couple days like that, but it wasn't necessary.  With his EC mastery, he was so easy to train.  We had very few accidents from the beginning and he astounds me with his mastery of the potty at this point.  We rarely ask him if he needs to go or take him if he hasn't asked.  Almost 100% of the time he is cuing us and still no accidents.  He will only pee his pants if he is out of ear shot of someone (like he's playing in the back yard and the door is closed) and doesn't make it in time.  But I can usually hear him yelling "yeah poop!" from across the yard and he'll hold it until I get there.  He's diaper free at night as well, usually waking to pee once a night.  Honestly, he has more control than his 3.5 year old brother.  So I know this isn't the norm for a toddler his age. 

 

In Sora's case you're dealing with daycare, so she will have to figure out the potty with more than one care giver and this is an added challenge.  If it were me, I think I would focus on diaper free time at home, offering frequently and especially at times that she is more likely to need to eliminate (right after nap, first thing in the morning, her poop time of day, etc.).  The more used to the potty she becomes, the more success you will have.  I would also talk to her care provider and brainstorm how she can support what you are doing at home.

 

I'm not one for sticker charts or food rewards, but I do know that has worked for many people.  If you feel fine with that, then go for it!  Also, we didn't bother with training pants- preferring to go totally bottomless.  With Avalon, she thought of training pants as a diaper and peed in them freely.  With true underwear it was different.  But these difference just illustrate that every kid and situation is different and you will need to experiment to see what works for you and Sora.  Keep us updated!


Edited by Jaimee - 8/25/13 at 2:14pm
post #32 of 103

The only reward that I use is letting Coralie watch a short potty video on YouTube after she's used the potty.   I also let her watch a lot of potty movies, short Elmo potty clips and read her many potty books when we first started.  I really think this helped her a lot, but as Jaimee said, each kid is different.  She LOVES to watch Elmo sing about using his potty.  Also, it took awhile for her to use the potty the first time, but once she did it, it clicked and came on fast.  I suspect that it will be similar for Sora as well.  

 

My favorite (okay, not really) thing that she's doing now is trying to stand over her little potty to pee (like Daddy).  She totally misses and pees all over the floor.  Hey, it still counts though, right??

post #33 of 103
So far, Jasper hasn't peed on the potty. He also doesn't give any sign he is going to pee or poop. I'm not seeing a lot of readiness signs. We are sitting him on the potty a lot. He is interested in only one thing during that time- playing with his penis. Will that ever stop?! If he actually did pee, it would go in his face. I'm not kidding.
post #34 of 103
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Originally Posted by TalkToMeNow View Post
He is interested in only one thing during that time-

We've got that, too.  But S has to be nude to sit on the pot.

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post #36 of 103
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We are about 12 days into potty training using the Oh Crap Potty Training ebook method. It was gone really well for a 20 month old, I tink. Yes he has the occasional accident, but they are few and far between and he has had days (like today) without any. He will go on public toilets when we are out and his little potty at home. The first few days I wanted to give up but the book said I would and then it clicked. It's exciting for me because my older kids were trained at 2 yrs 3 months and 2 yrs 7 months (and they still had a few accidents every now and then for months) so this is awesome. He is currently in the "Block 3" stage, which is going commando - shorts with no undies. Will try undies under shorts by the end of this week. I'm thrilled to have this done before Baby Zephyr arrives.

post #37 of 103

That's great Kali!  I was reading recently that the average age for potty training used to be 18mo, so I know it is totally possible to train earlier than the American average of 2.5-3yo.  My best friends son trained just before his 3rd birthday and everyone thought it was so amazing that he was trained.  I was like, huh, he's 3!??  It's funny how quickly some things become social norms.   It really seems like you have to stick with it until they use the potty a few times, that it will 'click' and go quickly from there.

 

Amanda, I'm pretty sure that it NEVER ends.

post #38 of 103
I think 3 is really late for potty training. Kids understand A LOT before 3. Aside from them simply not wanting to, there's really no barriers other than it being a pain and taking work.

B started using the potty consistently with no diapers about 4 months ago at 18 months, and just in the last few weeks stopped having accidents and wetting at night. She had 1-2 accidents per day for a long time. My surgery and the chaos and change were a hard obstacle but we seem to have gotten over the hump and she hasn't had an accident in probably 5 days.
post #39 of 103
My brother and I were PT at different ages. 18 months for me and 3 for him. We were less than two years apart and our mom started at the same age for him. All the boys in my family had bed wetting issues. Along came my boy who would wet the bed if exposed to wheat until he was 5. He was around 19 months when he potty trained, but his pee frequency changed dramatically when I took him all the way off wheat. Now with S, it's painfully obvious. He'll pee 3-4 times a day and have an average of an accident every day or two when I'm off wheat. He has 6-7 accidents per day when I eat it. He doesn't seem to have a problem eating it himself, unlike O.

As much as I hate being a food weirdo, I presume that there are factors not commonly understood with some children that can delay potty training. I don't think every child has food intolerances, but I also realize that not every kid can be potty trained at 18 months. I certainly didn't expect S to make it to 22 months.
post #40 of 103

Yes, the average for potty training back in the day was 18 months- meaning many were trained even younger.  Now it's 3-4 years (can you imagine a 4 year old in diapers?)  But we have to remember two things about back then.  One, everyone used cloth diapers.  And two, just about every mom was home with the kids.  These two things really help.  Now that many moms are working out of the home and many kids are in daycare, the lack of consistency during potty training is often a huge obstacle.  And with super dry disposable diapers, kids often don't care of they are in a "wet" diaper.  I often recommend to parents to buy just a few prefolds while potty training.  Go diaperless at home, but wear prefolds outside the house so you're not trapped in the house and the child feels the wet.

 

As for boys... Austin was drastically different than Avalon.  So I attributed that to boy vs. girl, but now Avery is proving that wrong.  I think there are averages indicating that boys taking longer to potty train than girls, in general.  Dr. Sears believes the reason is cultural.  Girls imitate their moms, boys imitate the dads, but usually it's mom that is doing most of the potty training so there is a disconnect there.  I'm not sure I agree, but he doesn't think there is any physical or cognitive reason boys should take longer to potty train.  So this just seems to back up the idea that kids are all different.  And of course, as Sara mentioned, there can be other underlying, seemingly unrelated factors that can affect the process.  But, one thing that doesn't seem to be that different between all boys?  Playing with the penis.  It might just be Austin's favorite past time.  No joke.  Avery will sit on his potty and look down, touch it, smile and say "penis! touching penis!"  Yes, son, you are. 

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