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Overlake vs Evergreen Hospitals

post #1 of 15
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I'm expecting my first child and looking for an OB (don't really love my current one).  Both Evergreen and Overlake hospitals are nearby (my preference is for a hospital birth).  I'm looking for help figuring out *currently* which is better - I had thought Evergreen was top notch but now I am hearing that may not be the case. I know Overlake has recently totally redone their childbirth center... 

 

My husband would strongly prefer Evergreen because we've had no end of billing snafus with our regular doctors who are affiliated with Overlake due to him and his father having similar names and previously residing at the same address.. but if Overlake is a better option, I would convince him it's worth it.

 

Also interested in OB recs - a friend pointed me to Evergreen Women's Health Center, but not with a glowing endorsement, just "they were fine".  Thanks!

post #2 of 15

I guess it depends on what you're looking for.  What do you mean by "better"?

 

Honestly, I'd avoid either of those hospitals simply because of their C-section rates. 

post #3 of 15

C-section rates do not exist in the vacuum. You can't just judge a hospital based on that.

 

If hospital provides care to high risk moms and  babies, the rate will be higher.

 

If the area has high rate of  assistant reproductive technology use, it will have higher rater of c-section

 

If the area has higher rater of moms ill with cardiac susses or diabetes etc, it will have higher rates.

 

Of course a smaller hospital with no NICU will send all high risk cases to another hospital and on paper, will have awesome c-section rates.

post #4 of 15
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Originally Posted by Alenushka View Post

C-section rates do not exist in the vacuum. You can't just judge a hospital based on that.

 

If hospital provides care to high risk moms and  babies, the rate will be higher.

 

If the area has high rate of  assistant reproductive technology use, it will have higher rater of c-section

 

If the area has higher rater of moms ill with cardiac susses or diabetes etc, it will have higher rates.

 

Of course a smaller hospital with no NICU will send all high risk cases to another hospital and on paper, will have awesome c-section rates.

 

That is all true.  And for the area, these two hospitals have unusually high rates given their demographics (there is a teaching university hospital in Seattle that handles a lot more high risk cases with a lot fewer C-sections, there are other hospitals in the area with similar demographics with much fewer C-sections). These are the two hospitals closest to my home so I'm not just saying that their C-section rates concern me randomly.

post #5 of 15
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I am not willing to rely on the bridges for access to the hospital in labor, so as far as I know these are my two choices. I guess I could go even further away south, north or east but that seems silly. I also need easy access to the ob for appointments and I'm afraid if its not Bellevue or Kirkland it will be too much of a problem to schedule appointments.

By "better" I mean, nicest and safest experience overall I guess. I'm not super concerned about csection rates because I think the birth culture here is such that lower risk, less interventionist people choose home birth or birth centers, but I am not comfortable with those options personally. I would like a hospital that promotes breastfeeding, rooming in, generally understanding about delaying nb screenings until after the first getting to know each other time. One that is comfortable, with generally agreeable staff. Maybe that's too vague but I guess that's what I feel so far... Is there somewhere you recommend that's not in Seattle, and with providers based in Kirkland or Bellevue?
post #6 of 15

Go tour them both. Check out yelp.com

post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by polyhymnia View Post

I am not willing to rely on the bridges for access to the hospital in labor, so as far as I know these are my two choices. I guess I could go even further away south, north or east but that seems silly. I also need easy access to the ob for appointments and I'm afraid if its not Bellevue or Kirkland it will be too much of a problem to schedule appointments.

By "better" I mean, nicest and safest experience overall I guess. I'm not super concerned about csection rates because I think the birth culture here is such that lower risk, less interventionist people choose home birth or birth centers, but I am not comfortable with those options personally. I would like a hospital that promotes breastfeeding, rooming in, generally understanding about delaying nb screenings until after the first getting to know each other time. One that is comfortable, with generally agreeable staff. Maybe that's too vague but I guess that's what I feel so far... Is there somewhere you recommend that's not in Seattle, and with providers based in Kirkland or Bellevue?

 

Last I knew, Evergreen was an early adopter of Baby Friendly policies, so that would be an advantage over Overlake. 

 

http://www.babyfriendlyusa.org/

 

I don't know your insurance coverage, but I do know the Group Health Midwives who deliver at Overlake are much more accepting of natural birth, but if you're only open to OBs that won't be an option for you either.

post #8 of 15
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I don't have group health, and we aren't comfortable with midwife only care, although we wouldn't mind a midwife at a group practice that also has ob's.

I know I can tour them but I also know that I gave tours at a college and the tour was definitely not totally accurate... I have asked around and everyone I know went to evergreen and were happy enough.
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by polyhymnia View Post

I don't have group health, and we aren't comfortable with midwife only care, although we wouldn't mind a midwife at a group practice that also has ob's.

I know I can tour them but I also know that I gave tours at a college and the tour was definitely not totally accurate... I have asked around and everyone I know went to evergreen and were happy enough.

 

The midwives at Evergreen (CNM) are affiliated with OBs, so if there are any problems/ concerns, you just go with them.  Maybe if you narrow down what is most important to you, it will be easier to pick an OB/ hospital that will fit that need.

post #10 of 15
If choosing between the two I would go with evergreen. They have GREAT classes and many moms find long term friends in them. They are super mom-friendly and do rooming-in, early breastfeeding, lots of skin to skin, etc.
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by TiredX2 View Post

The midwives at Evergreen (CNM) are affiliated with OBs, so if there are any problems/ concerns, you just go with them.  Maybe if you narrow down what is most important to you, it will be easier to pick an OB/ hospital that will fit that need.
I don't know what's important to me, other than the gauge things I said above, I've never done this before! I did notice that about the midwifery group at evergreen and I may look in to that. I do have an appt next Friday with an ob a friend referred me to, but just because it seemed better than picking a name out of a book. But, it sounds like evergreen is the better choice of the two so I will focus on finding a provider that delivers at evergreen.
post #12 of 15

I gave birth at Overlake 10 years ago.  I don't know what it's like now, but at that time it seemed pretty good.  Rooming-in was the standard.  I suppose they must have had a nursery somewhere but it was never even mentioned as an option.  They never tried to take the baby away for testing or anything; she was with me the whole time.  There was good breastfeeding support.  The people who did education at the hospital and the people at the women's clinic that provided follow-up care after I had my baby all seemed really into AP.  When I was at the women's clinic a few days after DD was born, one of them asked me where she was sleeping and when I said mostly with me, she said, "Good."  It could be that Evergreen is even better, but I don't think you need to be afraid of Overlake.

post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 
That is also good to know! Our issues with Overlake are mostly billing related so far!
post #14 of 15
I had planned to have my DD at a birth center, but due to complications we were taken to Overlake. I wanted a natural birth and heard lots of negatives about Overlake. However, I was very pleased because the Dr on duty was extremely respectful of my birth plan and worked with my midwife. She also brought the delivery room to a much more calm level. She was new to Overlake and ours was her first delivery there. I don't know many details about her, but her name was Dr. Dvoriak and I was very thankful she was the one to deliver my DD. The nursing staff was also great for my short stay and as an added perk, their food was absolutely delicious! All fresh, organic and very tasty. Both my midwife and doula were both pleasantly surprised with the way my birth was handle as it was the best experience either have had at the hospital. I credit Dr. Dvoriak for this and would would certainly recommend her.
post #15 of 15

From the moms I know, I hear much better things about Evergreen than Overlake. You might also consider Swedish Issaquah.
 

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