The aim is a simple, straightforward title that is inviting and conveys a discussion forum open to all parents so that they feel it is a place they can post questions, learn about circumcision, and make their decision.
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So no more "the case against...." - Page 3post #41 of 596/27/13 at 11:46ampost #42 of 596/27/13 at 12:26pm
I guess this post clarifies what I think is part of the problem. "Make their decision" tacitly expresses that it is OK for someone to decide to remove a part of another person's body.
How about post questions, learn about what circumcision really is (and what it removes), and hopefully make a decision that respects genital integrity?
I understand that we don't want to turn people away, but I think starting out with an attitude of hey- you probably don't know this due to societal conditioning is better than starting out implying that yeah, there's no problem with circumcision...you might just want to make a different choice.
I don't think that you will ever be able to see the effects of someone scanning this site, seeing "Circumcision" and thinking it means it's a valid MDC-endorsed option. I worry about that.post #43 of 596/27/13 at 12:28pmpost #44 of 596/27/13 at 3:30pm
PrimordialMom and philomom, while I understand and appreciate all of the concerns you posted this is a discussion where you are invited to share your feelings and suggestions but not a platform for insulting and accusing. For that reason your post has been removed. I will answer the questions you raised in another post.post #45 of 596/27/13 at 5:10pmQuote:
Given this logic, why not change the "Breastfeeding" forum to "Formula Feeding," or just "feeding"?post #46 of 596/27/13 at 5:18pmpost #47 of 596/28/13 at 11:34am
We certainly don't want to do anything to change the focus or purpose of the forum but we do want to be more welcoming of parents who are struggling with the decision and the aim is for a title that will convey that welcome. I agree that "Circumcision" is ambiguous and I agree with many of your points raised so I went back to discuss it further and got the go ahead to change it to Understanding Circumcision. I'm going to make that change now.post #48 of 596/28/13 at 7:37pmpost #49 of 596/29/13 at 5:10ampost #50 of 596/29/13 at 7:25ampost #51 of 597/8/13 at 6:48pm
While I certainly agree that "Understanding Circumcision," is better than just, "Circumcision," I do not think it is enough nor do I think it gets the point across. Again, I think someone scrolling through could read that & say, "I understand circumcision: it prevents UTIs, STDs, cancer, blah, blah, blah. I know all I need to know." I think following this logic, as someone had already pointed out, the, "Gentle Discipline" forum could now be changed to, "Understanding Spanking."
I also don't understand why I have seen in at least one other area, the Vaccination forums, there was discussion with those participating there of what the new names should be. Why did this happen in at least one place but not others?
Again, I think it's better but I don't understand what was wrong w/ "The Case Against Circumcision," nor do I feel the new name is likely to draw in someone who may be able to be enlighten. I think, "Genital Integrity," would have done that way more than, "Understanding Circumcision."
Suspost #52 of 597/8/13 at 7:16pm
The Vaccinations forum issues were due to ongoing posting issues with the active members there.
I've already explained the Circumcision forum name change reasoning. While I appreciate you are not satisfied with the name we've settled on, I think it serves the purpose of both the editorial needs and the forum purpose. Understanding Circumcision was the original name of the forum when it was first established back in 1999 and it did just fine so I don't think there's anything to worry about.post #53 of 597/13/13 at 8:06am
Hi, mama friend!!Quote:
MDC going retro, I love it! You know what would be so cool would be if there were a way to screen shot the original forum pre-crash. I'd love to see that!post #54 of 597/13/13 at 9:30pm
Wow, very mixed feelings about all this.
Sorta feels like the somehow the worst possible and offensive name snuck into the forum, so after the shock of that we should just 'be happy' with the offered compromise.
I don't want to "understand circumcision"... I want to promote intactness and provide information regarding intacteness and circumcision so parents have accurate information... and support. .
I'm completely mind blown that changing the name to 'circumcision' was some how something that can happen on MDC. I can't get past that to even think about what the forum could be called.post #55 of 597/25/13 at 2:18ampost #56 of 597/25/13 at 9:20am
We never had a boy, so this issue became mute for us personally, but my husband was bound to want our son to be circumcised, and I happened to have a Mothering article open on the kitchen table (not on purpose) about the procedure, and he walked away with his made completely changed.
Is it possible that "Understanding Circumcision" would be more inviting to folks are are not strongly committed to circumcision and possibly change their decision? Personally, as much as support for those who have decided against it is extremely important, so is changing the minds of people who might be pro-circ at first? And if that is important, what is the best way to do that? I think that "The Case Against Circumcision" as the title of the forum could possibly turn off quite a few people considering-- or even not even thinking about it.
Just some food for thought.post #57 of 598/26/13 at 8:19ampost #58 of 598/29/13 at 11:03am
Sorry for the delay in replying. Looks like your post was missed.
The forum title is still Understanding Circumcision. If a change was made it might have been in error or something the editorial team changed their mind about. I have not heard from them about changing the name of the forum.
We are still looking at forum reorganization and consolidation and that will mean some forums getting moved and/or forum name tweaks. Ultimately, it is an editorial decision so if it happens directly without community input it will be because the editorial team feels it is a necessary change. So, if there is a decision to change it to Discussions about Circumcision I will let you know why as soon as I know.post #59 of 599/7/13 at 7:25pmI know I am late to be commenting, but I solely credit MDC and "The Case Against Circumcision" for my 3 1/2 year old son being left intact. Had I come across the title "Understanding Circumcision", I would have not have been compelled to read further. While I dont necessarily consider myself an intactivist, it makes me incredibly sad that MDC would make any "editorial" changes that would or could potentially even slightly water down the true importance and critical nature of educating parents of the horror of RIC.
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