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Pertussis and Reactive Airway Disease--WWYD?

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My three year old daughter contracted RSV at 2 weeks old and it developed into Reactive Airway Disease (RAD) for her.  Whenever she gets a respiratory infection it hits her very hard.  This winter alone she had 5 bouts of bronchitis, one lasting 2.5 months.  Asthma runs in both sides of her family and the pediatrician is concerned about her developing it, too.

 

Whooping cough is making the rounds in my part of the world, and now that my daughter is weaned I'm more worried for her.  I really, really don't want her contracting pertussis, and I'm even considering vaccinating her for it.  As a rule we do not vaccinate due to my husband's autoimmune disorder, Type I diabetes.

 

I would really like to just vaccinate for pertussis, and not get her the DTaP.  Is that even possible?  Today my ped told me that it's not, but I wanted to check here, first.

 

What would you do if you were me?  I am very worried for my daughter's lung health, but I'm also worried about the repercussion of exciting her immune system in a non-natural way.

 

PS:  My son really wants to post a face, so here it is:  kiss.giflove

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There is no pertussis-only vaccine. Here is a list of all the vaccines licensed in the United States.

http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/ucm093833.htm

Every vaccine that contains pertussis also contains at least diphtheria and tetanus.

 

Your daughter's condition would seem to me like a good reason to vaccinate, except for your concern about the family history of autoimmunity, plus two additional things:

 

1) The pertussis vaccine is not very effective. Even the CDC now admits that pertussis outbreaks are not due to unvaccinated people, but rather to vaccine failure.

 

2) There is a very effective treatment for pertussis--a type of vitamin C called sodium ascorbate. It neutralizes the toxin that the pertussis bacteria produce. The toxin is what causes the symptoms.

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2) There is a very effective treatment for pertussis--a type of vitamin C called sodium ascorbate. It neutralizes the toxin that the pertussis bacteria produce. The toxin is what causes the symptoms.

 

This is good to know.  If I give it to her in a preventative way would it help?  I actually don't mind if her contracts whooping cough, I just don't want her to have the ongoing lung inflammation that goes along with it.  To put it a different way, if the case she caught was mild like a cold that's okay with me.  Months on end of coughing, not good.

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Yes, you can give low to moderate doses daily (or whenever it's convenient, or whenever you remember), and that will help. Every time you start noticing cold symptoms, you can increase the dosage until the symptoms go away. Because pertussis starts out with regular cold symptoms, and you can't know whether it's pertussis or not until the coughing starts.

 

High dosage (which is what's needed once you know it's pertussis) is 375 mg sodium ascorbate per kg body weight, per 24 hours, divided into equal dosages every few hours, during waking hours. Since you probably measure body weight in pounds, that's 170 mg sodium ascorbate per pound of body weight. It's mixed with water or juice. It adds a salty taste. That dosage is maintained for several weeks. If the bowel movements get loose, the dosage is slightly reduced.

http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/09/07/vitamin-c-for-whooping-cough-updated-edition-suzanne-humphries-md/

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Thank you, thank you thank you!  Wonderful to know.  That's why I love this forum, so helpful.

 

Now I just need to go to the natural food store tomorrow and pick up some sodium acsorbate.

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Nutroceuticall is the brand I like for SA. I am sure to always have it on hand, the results I have experienced have been so impressive. I always take it with us on vacation because SA can be a challenge to find (our local Whole Foods) doesn't even stock it.
Lazaril I can't help but wonder if your daughter may have even had WC when the bronchitis duration was ten weeks (?) WC is often misdiagnosed as bronchitis or croup in children. If you were to titer her you may find she has antibodies, though titers are not a great test overall to show immunity since the immune system is so much more than antibodies........I digress.....regardless I hope your daughter stays well and it is great that you are researching. Best wishes in whatever your decision is.
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I was wondering if she had whooping cough during those 2.5 months, but she never had the "classic" whoop.  I know that doesn't always happen.  She was seen by a doctor during that time for a suspected UTI (negative), and the doctor just diagnosed her with bronchitis due to what her lungs sounded like.  Can whooping cough sound like bronchitis in the lungs?  I think a titer would be a good idea.

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When my child had pertussis at 2 1/2 years, I only heard the "whoop" once. And it was late in the illness. The whoop is when I was finally convinced it was pertussis, although I had strongly suspected it for some time. I immediately started giving sodium ascorbate (it was the NutriBiotic brand, which we still use) and the improvement was obvious. If my husband or someone else had been there during that "whoop" instead of me, I may not have ever known it was pertussis. I think pertussis should definitely be suspected if a coughing illness lasts a long time (months), the coughing attacks are severe (whoop or no whoop), and the child seems fine between coughing attacks. I don't know if whooping cough can sound like bronchitis in the lungs, but I do know that doctors commonly misdiagnose whooping cough. And bronchitis is a common thing they misdiagnose it as.

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