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Poll Results: Have you considered EC?

 
  • 11% (1)
    Yes! We do a lot of it
  • 22% (2)
    Yeah ... trying it out here and there
  • 11% (1)
    Read up some but haven't tried it - planning to
  • 44% (4)
    Heard about it, but not sure it's right for us
  • 11% (1)
    No thanks!
9 Total Votes  
post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

Anyone trying out elimination communication? We've been giving it a shot with decent success. It's so gratifying each time we can prevent her from sitting in a dirty diaper. My DH got totally into it and will even wake with her fussing in the night and ask if I want him to offer her a chance to go before or after feedings. He calls it "pooping the baby" or "eliminating the baby" :p

 

A question for any old hands... sometimes (not with every poo) baby will start out quite happy in arms over the sink, but when she starts pooping, will cry really hard, which she never does in diaper free time or while pooping in a diaper. Any ideas why or suggestions? I hate to be doing something that seems nicer for her but actually results in more frantic crying in her day. But once she's started pooing, I can hardly flip her around for comfort and snuggles. (Unfortunately due to latch issues, feeding while ECing is not currently an option.)

post #2 of 9
Arwen only poops once a week (anyone else have that issue?), so we can totally tell when she is due to go and we have tried pottying her during that time to help her out ( it is a whole day process for her, grunting, fussing, etc). With DS1, he was exclusively pooping on the potty by 5 months, which was great when cloth diapering! About the crying...maybe she just gets uncomfortable being held like that? Especially if she has a gas bubble. It gets much easier to do once they have better head control. I found it easier to sit on the bed with a little potty seat so I could lean baby back against my chest in a more reclined squatting position.
Edited by berrymama - 6/26/13 at 8:11am
post #3 of 9

wow I've never heard of this! I wonder if it would be too challenging with twins. Where can I learn more?
 

post #4 of 9
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Originally Posted by jessmn View Post

wow I've never heard of this! I wonder if it would be too challenging with twins. Where can I learn more?
 

There is a mothering forum on EC http://www.mothering.com/community/f/227/elimination-communication

 

Diaperfreebaby.org has all the basic info: http://www.diaperfreebaby.org/index.php?module=article&view=8

post #5 of 9
We've been doing EC with Sander for 2 weeks or so now (he's 8 weeks old) with pretty good success for poops. Pees, not so much except for while pooping but I have caught a few. With DS1 we startes at around 10 weeka on a whim and he was exclusively pooping on the potty by 5 or 6 months, and having 2-3 pee misses during the day by that point too, so we put him in trainers at that time. I love EC. It's challenging to be starting over but the only way to go IMO.

MW, if she's fussing try changing positions. We actually EC into the bathroom sink right now because it's easier to hold Sander than over the toilet then give the sink a quick rinse, spray and wipe when he's done. As head control improves we'll use the toilet (probably could now). You could also just use an old container or tupperware of sone type if it allows you to hold her more comfortably. I would say that even if you think she is still pooping or needs to poop more, take her out of the EC hold (I just keep a prefold near by). You don't want a negative association which can lead to a short or long term potty strike. I just try to remeber that EC is about the "comminication" and if she's crying she is telling you that something isn't working for her.

Jess, another good resource is "The Diaper Free Baby" by Christine Gross-Loh. You don't have to do EC 100% or nothing. With DS we didn't EC at night because nights were challenging enough already, and he was still in trainers bu 6 mos and graduated by 18 months and was dry through the noght by 23 mos.
post #6 of 9
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by berrymama View Post

There is a mothering forum on EC http://www.mothering.com/community/f/227/elimination-communication

 

 

I always forget there is more to MDC than due date clubs, thanks!

 

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Originally Posted by nstewart View Post

MW, if she's fussing try changing positions. We actually EC into the bathroom sink right now because it's easier to hold Sander than over the toilet then give the sink a quick rinse, spray and wipe when he's done. As head control improves we'll use the toilet (probably could now). You could also just use an old container or tupperware of sone type if it allows you to hold her more comfortably. I would say that even if you think she is still pooping or needs to poop more, take her out of the EC hold (I just keep a prefold near by). You don't want a negative association which can lead to a short or long term potty strike. I just try to remeber that EC is about the "comminication" and if she's crying she is telling you that something isn't working for her.

 

Eek! This is helpful advice, thanks!

post #7 of 9
I would really love to figure out how to do this. I've been so interested for quite a while. Plus maybe it will help my cloth diaper woes. Maybe I will start trying when we return from vacation. Any tips for starting out with babies as young as ours? Well mine is about 6 weeks.
post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SuperMujer0923 View Post

I would really love to figure out how to do this. I've been so interested for quite a while. Plus maybe it will help my cloth diaper woes. Maybe I will start trying when we return from vacation. Any tips for starting out with babies as young as ours? Well mine is about 6 weeks.

 

 

Hardly an expert here, but what we did was simply start making the cue sound (we chose "psssss") whenever it was clear baby was pooing (it was clear because she poos loud!). After a few days of that, we started holding her over the sink and making the cue sound when it seemed likely that she'd have to go (10ish minutes after eating, when grunting/straining, etc). You can find tons more info online, but those basics seem to have gotten us off to a good start!

 

I have to say, we are going through way more cloth diapers because when we unwrap her and she's slightly wet, we're always like, well, now that we have the diaper off, might as well put a totally dry one on. BUT I read something online that was encouraging - think of it as 3 years of diapers condensed into 1 instead :)

post #9 of 9
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Originally Posted by SuperMujer0923 View Post

I would really love to figure out how to do this. I've been so interested for quite a while. Plus maybe it will help my cloth diaper woes. Maybe I will start trying when we return from vacation. Any tips for starting out with babies as young as ours? Well mine is about 6 weeks.

Like MW said, start with cuing when you know baby is going.  We use a "pssss" sound for pees and a grunting, "ugh" noise for poops.  This helps baby associate the feeling with the cue. Do this for a few days to a few weeks.  During this time, try to pay attention to any cues or clues your baby was giving you that they need to go.  Lots of time in arms helps with this.  Just try to be really aware of baby's cues and also timing (ex. Sander usually has a big poop around 6am every morning, whatever time closest to that that he wakes up).  Naked bum time helps also for learning about timing for pees.  To facilitate, you can get one of those mats for kids who bed wet at a childrens store, like Toys R Us for about $20 or less.  Prefolds are also really handy.  DS1 spent tons and tons of time in one without a cover because I could tell as soon as he'd peed and change him right away (so I learned how soon after nursing he would pee, and how often in between, etc.)  The prefolds are also really great go-forward, 'cause you can get them off REALLY quickly if you use a Snappi to secure them (so you can take baby potty mid-poop if need be, or even mid-pee!)

 

Once you've cued baby a bit, just take them to the potty (whatever works for you.  A sink, the tub, the toilet, a container of some type, an actual baby potty when they're a bit bigger) when you think that they are going to poop and hold them in the way that works best for your toileting option, and make the appropriate cue.  I give a good 30 seconds of cuing and if baby isn't going take them away from the potty.  If they start to fuss, or get upset, take them away as well.  Sander already knows what the hold over the sink with the cue means, and will immedietly try to poop when cued.  If he doesn't have to go, he will start to fuss right away and I just take him away from the sink and put a diaper on him.  You don't want to form a negative association.

 

If you are having a "miss" (ie: baby is pooping or peeing in their diaper), cue anyway.  This helps build the association between the sound and the action.  If feasible (especially for poops) try to take baby to your pottying place part way through a poop and cue there.

 

For us, pees are always harder to catch than poops.  So start with whichever is easier and build from there.  Babies don't usually pee in their sleep, but very soon after waking.  So to try to start catching pees, get to babe as SOON as they wake from a nap and get them to the potty (this is what worked best for us, then I could use that first pee as a basis to time the next ones!)

 

You can EC using disposibles, but I think cloth is better because babe associates the feeling of peeing in the diaper with feeling wet which isn't the same with sposies.  You can EC full time, or EC part time.  The more consistenly you do it however, the sooner you will get in a rythm.  As I said before, we did try ECing at night but it just didn't work for us as nights were already bad with DS1 and so I'd only take him for poops at night.  So, just do what works for you and your family.  It shouldn't be too stressful.

 

Don't count the misses, count the catches.  Don't focus on perfection.  And remember that the "C" is for "Communication" not "Catches".  thumb.gif

 

That's my advise from past experience.  Others may have other perspectives.  I'm always happy to answer any questions now or down the road too.  I stillheart.gif EC.

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