Originally Posted by whompingwillow
Ok read the link. Now I am confused! The nurse told me (I wrote it down) that if he got a fever above 100.4 within two weeks of getting the vaccine to give him 5 mL of Tylenol. Why would she say that?
Because the nurse doesn't bother to read the medical literature, or the World Health Organisation websites.
Originally Posted by whompingwillow
My Dr. went to Northwestern and is very intelligent and a great Pediatrician (she advised me not to circumcise, which is one of the reasons I went with her. I am against it, and told me if I did to never retract etc)?
I dare say many people would consider many of the pro-circumcision paediatricians are intelligent as well. Being intelligent, doesn't guarantee that the doctor would get 100% on an examination, does it? Most doctors know very little about fevers, or temperatures. That doesn't mean they aren't intelligent. It just means they don't know what they don't know.
Originally Posted by whompingwillow I won't give him anymore Tylenol unless it gets crazy high, my husband is a bigger worry wart than I am so there is no way he would agree to not give it if it got above 103 I'd
103 is about the time most medics panic.
the University of Michigan used to have a useful page on fever, which for some reason was taken down.
Here is the information and the "waybackmachine" URL which shows that it did one exist. It's very interesting that they took it down in 2011:
Myths and Facts about Fever
Misconceptions about the dangers of fever are commonplace. Unwarranted fears about harmful side effects from fever cause lost sleep and unnecessary stress for many parents. Let the following facts help you put fever into perspective:
MYTH: All fevers are bad for children.
FACT: Fevers turn on the body's immune system. Fevers are one of the body's protective mechanisms.
Most fevers are good for children and help the body fight infection. Use the following definitions to help put your child's level of fever into perspective:
100°F to 102°F Low-grade fever: Beneficial. Try
(37.8°C to 39°C) to keep the fever in this range.
102°F to 104°F Moderate-grade fever: Beneficial.
(39°C to 40°C)
Over 104°F High fever: Causes discomfort, but
(40°C) is harmless.
Over 105°F High fever: Higher risk of
(40.6°C) bacterial infections.
Over 108°F Serious fever: The fever itself can
(42°C) be harmful.
MYTH: Fevers cause brain damage or fevers over 104°F (40°C) are dangerous.
FACT: Fevers with infections don't cause brain damage. Only body temperatures over 108°F (42°C) can cause brain damage. The body temperature goes this high only with high environmental temperatures (for example, if a child is confined in a closed car in hot weather).
MYTH: Anyone can have a febrile seizure (seizure triggered by fever).
FACT: Only 4% of children have a febrile seizures.
MYTH: Febrile seizures are harmful.
FACT: Febrile seizures are scary to watch, but they usually stop within 5 minutes. They cause no permanent harm. Children who have had febrile seizures do not have a greater risk for developmental delays, learning disabilities, or seizures without fever.
MYTH: All fevers need to be treated with fever medicine.
FACT: Fevers need to be treated only if they cause discomfort. Usually that means fevers over 102°F or 103°F (39°C or 39.4°C).
MYTH: Without treatment, fevers will keep going higher.
FACT: Wrong. Because of the brain's thermostat, fevers from infection top out at 105°F or 106°F (40.6°C or 41.1°C) or lower.
MYTH: With treatment, fevers should come down to normal.
FACT: With treatment, fevers usually come down 2° or 3°F (1.1° or 1.7°C).
MYTH: If the fever doesn't come down (if you can't "break the fever"), the cause is serious.
FACT: Fevers that don't respond to fever medicine can be caused by viruses or bacteria. Whether the medicine works or not doesn't relate to the seriousness of the infection.
MYTH: If the fever is high, the cause is serious.
FACT: If the fever is high, the cause may or may not be serious. If your child looks very sick, the cause is more likely to be serious.
MYTH: The exact number of the temperature is very important.
FACT: How your child looks is what's important, not the exact temperature.
MYTH: Temperatures between 98.7°F and 100°F (37.1°C to 37.8°C) are low-grade fevers.
FACT: The normal temperature changes throughout the day. It peaks in the late afternoon and evening. A low-grade fever is 100°F to 102°F (37.8°C to 39°C).
- A reading of 99.4°F (37.4°C) is the average rectal temperature. It normally can change from 98.4°F (36.9°C) in the morning to a high of 100.3°F (37.9°C) in the late afternoon.
- A reading of 98.6°F (37°C) is just the average oral temperature. It normally can change from a low of 97.6°F (36.4°C) in the morning to a high of 99.5°F (37.5°C) in the late afternoon.
Written by B.D. Schmitt, M.D., author of "Your Child's Health," Bantam Books.