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Jenny McCarthy joins the view

post #1 of 33
Thread Starter 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2013/07/15/abc-the-view-jenny-mccarthy-barbara-walters/2517659/

 

What do you guys think? Happy? Mad? 

post #2 of 33

Actually, i don't watch tv, so it doesn't really matter to me...what matters is the bs people are spouting off about her, all because of her opinion on vaccines, and their consequences that she believes that was put upon her child.  She's taken a public bashing ever since..Jim Carrey and Rob Schneider also come to mind, but since they are not the sex symbol Jenny is, the (american) media is not as interested in the bashfest against men who speak their opinions.   

post #3 of 33
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This has been going around on my facebook http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Anti-Vaccine_Body_Count/Home.html

 

I think most people see her as a nut, I am not sure how much being on the view is going to help her cause.

post #4 of 33

I don't really care.  I have not watched The View in years.

 

I have seen her speak on tv a few times and she comes across as warm, honest, brash and fairly articulate to me.

 

She might fit in with The View…or she might be too much.  We shall see.  

 

Some like to paint non-vaxxers as conspiracy theorists.  I know Rosie O'Donnell had some conspiracy theories, and I know she was not on The View for long, but I do not know why

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This has been going around on my facebook http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Anti-Vaccine_Body_Count/Home.html

 

I think most people see her as a nut, I am not sure how much being on the view is going to help her cause.

Yeah, I HATE the title of that site.

 

Really, parents are responsible for their vaccine choices - maybe doctors and government as well (some people who do not want to vax feel pushed into a corner due to medical and government policies).  But Jenny McCarthy or any other celebrity?  That is laughable.  It is offensive to non-vaxxers to imply they do not vax because of celebrities. 

post #6 of 33
Meh. shrug.gif It's baseless hysteria. I sincerely doubt that that vaccine topic will even come up. She writes parenting books, for heaven's sake. On the off-chance it is a topic, they will probably invite some smarter-than-thou doctor on to counter her, just like they did on The Doctors.

Honestly, with the U.S. government recovering from recession, spying on its citizens, fighting a multi-front war, slashing funding and food stamps for the most vulnerable, and whoring itself around in corrupt "private-public" partnerships, I have a hard time understanding why getting Jenny McCarthy off The View is THE cause celebre for some people. Far be it from me to set priorities for people, but those are some pretty warped priorities.
post #7 of 33
It's difficult to express how hard I DON'T care about who hosts The View. So hard!
post #8 of 33

We might not care, and it won't affect the vaccination choices of people who spend time online debating vaccination viewpoints - that's clear to everyone I think.

 

 Problem is most people don't seem to make an informed choice. Many people do seem to get their medical advice from watching TV....

 

 So we should be concerned about that I think..... - although worrying about Jenny McCarthy making an already bad situation a tiny bit worse seems perhaps not the right response! ;) Personally I'd rather fight against "One Born Every Minute" and the terrible portrayal of birth as trauma before worrying about a lunchtime ladies chat show! ;)  

post #9 of 33

I don't love the View, but I LOVE LOVE LOVE Jenny. I never paid her much never mind, and she had nothing to do with my Vax views (I have never even been to Gen Rescue's website). However, she has been SO attacked by SO many in the media, in 'Skeptic' circles that I developed a great fondness for her as an underdog . . . 

post #10 of 33

Hopefully she won't attack Breastfeeding as much as the other ladies on there!

post #11 of 33

I also think she has been SO attacked that no one would seriously say 'Jenny McCarthy' told me not to Vax anymore unless they were totally NOT media savvy, kwim? It isn't something you can say, bring to your mommy group without getting flamed alive . . .

post #12 of 33
I just don't think it's anything to get excited about. This is a chance for her to expose more details of what she think of vaccinations and other aspects of health, and display how faulty her logic is/how bogus her "facts" are. Hand the woman a microphone, by all means.
post #13 of 33

IDK much about her theories and if they include Homeopathy, I am not a big believer, but who wouldn't agree that our Vaccines could use a little Greening? I know folks defend Aluminum & Thimerisol (relevant because it is still used in annual vaxes, prenatally, and worldwide except in the US) endlessly, but doesn't everyone honestly wish they weren't there, if only for their adverse effect on public opinion?

 

The View is run by the View's producers for the most part, I doubt very much they will let her control the topics . . . 

post #14 of 33
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IDK much about her theories and if they include Homeopathy, I am not a big believer, but who wouldn't agree that our Vaccines could use a little Greening? I know folks defend Aluminum & Thimerisol (relevant because it is still used in annual vaxes, prenatally, and worldwide except in the US) endlessly, but doesn't everyone honestly wish they weren't there, if only for their adverse effect on public opinion?

 

The View is run by the View's producers for the most part, I doubt very much they will let her control the topics . . . 

Dinah, in the US, thimerosal IS used as preservative in annual flu shots, including those given to infants and pregnant women.  In addition, most adult vaccine boosters in the US come in multi-use vials--which means that they, too, are preserved with thimerosal.  Many pediatricians use the adult boosters for older children, as the multi-use vials are significantly less expensive.

post #15 of 33

Interesting! It is also in trace amounts in Tripedia . . . I did not know that it was used for boosters by some Peds tho. I honestly thought that in the US, all children under 18 now had access to Thimerisol free or trace Vaxes for all the routine immunizations except some percentage of Flu . . . 

post #16 of 33
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Interesting! It is also in trace amounts in Tripedia . . . I did not know that it was used for boosters by some Peds tho. I honestly thought that in the US, all children under 18 now had access to Thimerisol free or trace Vaxes for all the routine immunizations except some percentage of Flu . . . 

Nope.  The vast majority of flu shots are thimerosal-preserved.  There IS FluMist--but that is contraindicated for pregnant women and children under 3.  Thimerosal-free flu shots do exist, but must be special-orders, and are signficantly more expensive.  Last I read, 80-90% of flu SHOTS in the US are thimerosal-preserved.

 

At least, the flu shots in the US are not adjuvanted with squalene.  Or at least, so we're told...

post #17 of 33

In the USA single dose flu shots do not contain thimerosol (as well as flumist): http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/thimerosal.htm

 

In fact nine out of the fourteen different types of flu vaccination which are licensed do not contain any thimerosol: http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/thimerosal.htm

 

Google says that many providers prefer the multi-vial shots as it's cheaper so may not routinely stock thimerosol free shots. But you should be able to ask for the single dose version if you're concerned about thimerosol and if your doctor does not have it a quick google suggests calling your local health department may help you find somewhere to get it (and it may even be free). I won't link that as it was in a forum discussion in Babycenter.com and I think that's against the rules. 

 

For the 2012-13 season from the CDC: of the 145 million doses of flu vaccine projected, 62 million were projected to be thimerosal free or trace. That's more than 40% thimerosl free - or 60% containing thimerosol. Personally I don't call that a "vast majority" although I'll admit it is the majority.

 

 

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaxsupply.htm

 

Feeling some deja vu with this discussion.... I know many of you have seen this before. I know I've previously posted the similar figures which existed for the 2011-202 season which also showed ~50% of flu shots in the USA were thimerosol free. 

 
post #18 of 33
As someone who has worked in Hollywood I will say that no one there cares about her vaccine views, they only care whether or not she will bring in the ratings. What really bothers me is that there are many celebrities who have been outspoken about vaccines, many of them men, and somehow they don't get attacked like she does. I think everyone just wants her to shut up and look pretty and don't act like you have a brain. For goodness sake, Jim Carrey was with her for a lot of her ordeal and totally agreed with her, yet he is NEVER associated with an anti-vax agenda. And trust me, he really IS a little nutty.
post #19 of 33
^Freakin FABULOUS point. Where is similar outrage against Donald Trump or Rob Schneider?

Also, if you are a FEMINIST, don't call another woman a Playmate as a diss. IMO.
post #20 of 33
So ProScience Mama: does it disturb you that the percentage is going down from 2011 to 2013? Or that TFree Flu Shots are disproportionately being admin'ed to low income pregnant women & children without Vax awareness? (Because private providers are more likely to have single dose vials than state clinics).
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