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Hemorrhoid hell

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
I got mild hemorrhoids with my first labor and have had them on and off for the past 8 years, with very rare problems and always manageable, hardly painful... Until yesterday. And now SO painful, AWFUL aching for about 24 hours now. I don't know what to do. Sitz baths offer little relief, pain meds hardly touch the pain. This is worse than my after birth vaginal pain. I've been using topical witch hazel everyday but they're still the same (worse, actually).
HELP.
post #2 of 25

Side lying bed rest? I'm using my nipple cream. I've had them pretty bad since this birth, any liquid I drink gets diverted from my digestive tract up to milk production. She nurses so much! I even broke down & bought a pacifier which my first 3 have never had. She wasn't fooled & hates them all. I eat a ton of fruits & veg, keep a gallon pickle jug of water in the fridge as my quota but it's still not enough, BMs are so hard my hemorrhoid has fissures. No help from this quarter, only empathy.

post #3 of 25
Thread Starter 
Ugh! The thing with me is my BM's aren't hard at all, just normal- no straining happening. I am so annoyed that after 3 weeks pp they just swooped out my bum and now I can't do anything without these big stupid bubble veins throbbing.

I don't know what the tech difference is between fissured and thrombosis- fissured is when an internal hemmy comes out and thrombosis is when an external hemmy... I dunno...? I am hesitant to use a mirror and check myself out but there's a grape size bulge that hurts like hell hanging out of me. I can push it back in which relieves most of the pain but its back out again shortly.

Sorry to be so snarky and borderline rude- I'm in pain!!
post #4 of 25
Grated potato (I know, sounds weird) on the hemorrhoid and supplementing with Rutin can both help.
post #5 of 25

found this hope its helpfull

 

 

6 Home Remedies for Hemorrhoids

  • Apple Cider Vinegar – Using apple cider vinegar is one of the most popular natural treatments for hemorrhoids. Simply soak a cotton ball or some toilet paper with ACV and apply it to the hemorrhoid area. Repeat this process until the inflammation disappears and symptoms resolve. You should see improvement instantly. Alternatively, add some ACV (half a cup) to a sitz bath.
  • Rutin – A health-promoting compound found in numerous plants such as buckwheat, oranges, grapefruit, lemon, cranberries, and asparagus (to name a few), rutin is another home remedy often used for hemorrhoids. Buying it in supplement form may be the best option. One individual on Earthclinic says“I have had a hemmroid for almost a year now. Just last week I started taking Rutin 500mg twice a day, in the morning and one before going to bed. … taking Rutin for only a week the inflammation has gone down and my hemmroid thankfully is almost gone, it’s less than a size of a pea today.”
  • Coconut Oil - Apply coconut oil directly to hemorrhoids, rinse and repeat. In addition to symptoms subsiding, the hemorrhoids should disappear over the course of just a few days.
  • Witch Hazel - An astringent and healing tree, witch hazel is one of the oldest known natural remedies for hemorrhoids. Just soak a pad or cotton ball with witch hazel and apply it to the area.
  • Aloe Vera – As with the above treatments, simply apply aloe vera to the affected area to relieve symptoms.
  • Squat, Don’t Sit – This is actually heavily important and very overlooked. Conventional toilets are highly unnatural, and may be one reason hemorrhoids are rarely seen in less developed countries, where where squatting is done when going to the bathroom. Sitting down to pass a bowel movement puts tremendous strain on the rectum while squatting straightens the rectum and relaxes the puborectalis muscle. This is tip should be done along with any home remedies for hemorrhoids you may use.

 

Voondrop - I have fissures as well, I've found that taking a cal/mag supplement makes a huge difference oh and drinking coconut water or home made recharge helps hydrate as well.

post #6 of 25

Shanna, I didn't think you were being snarky or rude. Maybe I have the definition of fissure wrong? All I know is I get blood on the toilet paper from split skin. I've gone through a half gal. of kombucha a day plus water trying to flush out a UTI, as well. It doesn't ferment fast enough! But that's my recharge. Mine has been come & go for the last few years, it just never lasts this long & doesn't sound as bad as yours, Shanna. We just dug up potatoes a couple of days ago, I'll try that, thanks!

post #7 of 25
I feel your pain. Quite literally. I find myself doing this stand squat stand dance while passing. I don't know if this help or just distracts from the pain. I also sometimes spray my bum gently with warm water from the afterbirth cleaning bottle. This seems to relax my sphincter and make it pass a little faster. It is so hard to relax though especially when I'm not alone in the bathroom.

Gonna try some of the other ideas. Thanks so much.
post #8 of 25
Thread Starter 
Well , things have definitely been changing with the hemmy's, not sure if its for the better or worse.
Starting on Saturday I was having lots of throbbing pain, so much that I was having a hard time walking/moving. It was pretty bad pain from sat-tues (yesterday). I saw my acupuncturist yesterday and have been very consistently using witch hazel, sitz baths, raw potatoes, and as much bed rest as I can manage.
(Here's where it gets fun) yesterday afternoon I had a bm and felt a pop and had a big gush of blood, it seems my hemmy (I think it is a prolapsed internal) popped, making a giant mess. And the bleeding just wouldn't stop! It went on for about 3 hours before I called my nd/MW. She recommended my icing it and using cotton balls to control the bleeding and try and get it to clot. She also said I should go see a specialist as soon as possible, a perintolgist who is also an nd. I go in tomorrow (thurs) and am sooooo not looking forward to if.
As of now, I am still pretty consistently bleeding and the hemmy pops and then fills back up (every time a little bigger) a couple times a day. I am on complete bed rest again and am having to call in all kinds of favors from friends and family to come help me take care of the boys.
post #9 of 25
Oh my goodness. Ouchies. Hugs.
post #10 of 25

I am so sorry you're going through this, I hope the perintologist can help.

post #11 of 25
Thread Starter 
Update! I saw the dr today, I had a large external thrombotic hemmy with 6 big blood clots in it. He removed it (ouch!) and said I should feel better tomorrow. He also said I have 9 raspberry sized internal hemmy's that need to be taken care of... So I go see him again on tues.

All in all I'm feeling optimistic and hoping this will help :-)
post #12 of 25
Yay Shanna-cat! From what I've heard of hemmy repairs, they can fix you up pretty easily once you see the right folks. Hope all goes well and you can put this part of pp recovery behind you! (pun intended)
post #13 of 25

OMG, Shanna, that sounds horrible!!!  I had a very painful throbbing one just before birth and my high risk OB told me the surgery was intense and required cutting a large part of the rectal muscle and it would only make it worse afterwards.  The strange thing is, my mom had one drained when I was very young and said it was NOTHING like my Dr described!!  Now what you've described is NOTHING like my Dr described!!  WTH?!   I have one that goes away and comes back with a crazy BM.  Glad you've found some relief and are getting it under control.

post #14 of 25
Thread Starter 
Everything feels way better! No pain at all, even when I go the the bathroom. I am SO glad I ended up going into the specialist now. I do have a follow up tomorrow so we'll see what he says about all the internal ones.

Tenk was yours external or internal (the throbbing one)? There was no muscle cutting or anything like that. From what I can tell he just either sliced off the whole thing or lanced it and drained all the blood clots then it shrank away. I couldn't see what was going on obviously but there is no more giant lump that I can feel. The inside ones he uses a different treatment, electro therapy. . Here's the link to the practices website, the procedure is supposedly not very painful- we'll see if I end up getting it done.

http://hemorrhoidhelp.com/portland-or-hemorrhoid-relief.htm
post #15 of 25
Wow, that is wonderful to hear!!! My painful one was external, grape size. He said it was permanent but it completely disappeared until a significant BM but after caring for it has gone away again.
post #16 of 25
What a fabulous day. After getting Quest's tongue and lip tie operated on, making breasts feel much better. I went #2 without bleeding. I feel like a new momma!
post #17 of 25

Ok, I'm having some issues and I'm not sure if this is internal hemorrhoids or an anal fissure or what?

 

I have never experienced an external hemmy and had no bottom problems during pregnancy or even right after delivery. Had BMs right away, no constipation, no pain whatsoever. Then maybe 2-3 weeks ago (so 2-3 weeks post partum) I started to notice that my stools were a little harder than usual, and BMs were slightly painful with spots of blood on the toilet paper. I've had that before, the blood on the toilet paper, and upping my water intake has always been enough to do away with it. So I did that and also started taking psyllium supplements. I immediately saw an improvement in my constipation, but unfortunately the pain (and sometimes bleeding) seemed to get WORSE instead of better. I've even started taking pain relievers every day, but they just kind of take the edge off. I don't always bleed, but the pain is almost constant. The only position that isn't painful is lying in bed :(

 

 

I feel like I'm being punished for having a fairly easy pregnancy and labor :( With my first the labor was long and painful, excruciating at the end. But recovery was a breeze! Not so much this time.  

 

After nextweek's 6wk pp checkup I won't have any insurance. Any recommendations for treating this with home remedies?

post #18 of 25
Sounds like a hemmy. I used an OTC cream to relieve some of the discomfort, witch hazel pads for cleansing, and warm salt baths spread eagle. Sitz baths as well. It does suck.
post #19 of 25
Well, I grabbed a mirror and looked. There is a cut slightly inside, towards my perineum, which I think is what a fissure is? How can you tell if there are internal hemorrhoids? Or is that something I need to see a doctor to assess?

(lol... ASSess... I have the sense of humor of a 13 year old boy)
post #20 of 25
Thread Starter 
So sorry for you Kitteh!! I was able to live peacefully with my internal hemmy's for 8 years so its usually manageable. Once you start having some bleeding pain it can take a week or a few to stop but the most important thing to do is NOT have hard stools so it can heal. I never had any relief from OTC meds but did use Epsom salt baths and hitch hazel. It can also help to lube your self up with coconut oil (or something similar) before a bm to help it slide out.

My understanding is that hemmy's never really go away unless medically treated... They will be good sometimes and bad sometimes. Strange things bring them back, like a car accident made them act up a few years ago and my mom had a big issue after going on a wave runner.

Constant vigilance!!
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